congrats TRE - some great streaks there! you gonna do castle? that is a pretty cool strategy, but a lot more luck dependant, since things can wake up quickly, have berries, etc. but yawn's flawless accuracy is awesome - something trick unfortunately does not have (why does trick often miss, yet when you get bright powder their move never misses). well, no-one really saw drapion coming - we were all using straightforward stat-up pokemon. so something else might be possible. but probably not, until the 5th gen when something with a no-hax ability shows up. thanks man :) and yeah, i still do consider my team/skill to be in a formitive stage. it was not the only thing i "learnt" during that streak, but most of the other things didnt cost me too much - i just thought, man if he had got a certain kind of hax, i would have been screwed. twave is a decent idea for yanmega i think - drdimentio also pointed this out to me. i can see the logic. and also its not like i ever really "go out of my way" to keep latias alive. most battles go like "latias used trick. lead used ice beam / shadow ball / night slash / dragon claw / signal beam / whatever. registeel comes in and its GG." ie i usually dont "need" to do anything other than trick. i have only twice "needed" latias again, and both times i paralyzed the opponent, hoping this would buy me time for a substitute on salamence (and both times failed, one being my loss, and another being a lucky escape). recover + charm is great for when an opponent uses stone edge - obviously salamence cant come in, and registeel doesnt like setting up on 5pp moves (although i do it sometimes, getting to +5/+5/+4/sub knowing i can get to full strength in the relevant stat in one turn, unless their hp is divisible by 4) and when there is a high CH chance...... so i usually stall with charm and recover (and twave if they are not part ground) and then either retrick, or let it struggle, and take back its scarf and begin on pokemon 2. if the opponent used something very dangerous (such as STAB brave bird or outrage) then i will often sacrifice latias, then go to steel via salamence for the intimidate. if they used an electric move (which is the only type salamence+registeel dont resist between them) i usually just stall it out similar to stone edge. i can see plenty of instances where flash would be great, and even better than recover. but the bottom line is you only get 4 moves, and the instances where recover>flash convince me to keep that, as it is more "reliable" - ive had enough 10+ turn freezes to know that a fully flashed opponent could still hit you multiple times in a row, even when it shouldnt (lol the BF obeying the law of averages). EDIT: btw i didnt even realise it was the same as peterko's DP streak! no, i definitely appreciate any comments that come my way :) so many thanks to both of you guys. i guess i really misunderestimated (i love your previous president's speeches) yanmega. but still, if it didnt have tinted lens, and those moves didnt have a chance to raise all stats, you can see where im going, right? 1) its item didnt increase its attack (nor was it a hax item) 2) it was obviously going to use its STAB move, which wouldnt hurt registeel. 3) when its pp was up, instead of suiciding in a couple of turns, it would just switch to an even weaker move, allowing me to complete the setup. but yeah, tinted lens and the stat-ups mean i made a mistake in that case. i usually do normal near the start-middle. basically a lot of those things are really bulky and can do annoying things to you like paralyze (body slam), have an ice move, etc. exactly, eg dragon dance on turn 1, then you give it a scarf and watch it outrage you. it could even put you to sleep or something turn one.