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Pokémon Amethyst -~- A Sprite Resource Project

Discussion in 'Smeargle's Studio' started by Sleet, Dec 23, 2009.

  1. Wizwum

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    Thought I'd take a break from QC and tackle Lugia. Pretty pleased with how this turned out, but the lines may be a little pale. I may darken them all a bit, thoughts?
  2. Tayla

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    I didn't make the original one, but what do you mean "not as Weavile-ish"? These are scratch sprites, not replicas of familiar poses. I think the original artist wanted to have him "on guard", with his claws raised and feet spread. It looks speedy (Weavile) and dangerous (Weavile). There's been no complaints on the pose for two months.
  3. wickdaggler

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    @ Wizwum:
    I love the pose of Lugia, but I think a darker outline color would do it alot of help. It looks a bit radioactive at the moment.
    Also, the shading and lineart on it's left arm (our right) looks a bit rough, and the belly shading seems off to me.
    Other than that, it's perfect :D
  4. Wizwum

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    With the arm/wing, I agree, the shading is a little dodgy, but the line's are supposed to be a little 'rough.' In the art I use, it really does have those 'corners' to it, to emphasis the fact its a limb, with bones and joints, not just a big floppy sheet hanging off its shoulder. Ironically, in my Lugia repose in one of the WSCs, one critique said that the wings needed more joints and such, as it looked like a perfectly smooth, flexible arm. But I'll try and sort that out, it is a little rough at the moment. As to the belly shading, could you elaborate on what you mean by 'off'? I realise I'm being a hypocrite as I make that kind of comment all the time, but a bit more detail would be helpful.
  5. NikLink

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    Lugia: The lines on his left (our right) arm are awfully squiggly; Lugia's wings ARE perfectly smooth and flexible prettymuch.

    Chinchou: Looks good, but you have to fix the eyes. Look at the sprites for it.

    Golduck: Is also good, but its eyes are looking in different directions.
  6. Alchemator

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    Sorry for not updating while I'm asleep Wizwum :(

    It would be nice if you could find a better pose for the Turtwig Nopie, as it's unbelievably similar to the normal Turtwig. If you can't though, it's still a great sprite :P

    Chinchou, what Niklink said.

    Lugia I think needs darker outlines.
  7. Nopie

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    Believe me, I tried many poses and all of the more lively ones I tried just looked unnatural for Turtwig. I can have another go if you'd like though. I don't recall Turtwig taking me very long so it's no trouble.

    Tangrowth looks good to me; I think it can go on through.


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    Woof.


    Also, Alch, you have me listed as completed 25 sprites with 8 in QC, but it's actually 26 and 11.
  8. NikLink

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    Damn Snubbull and Granbull look awesome. But also I have a question about the project:

    WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT GENDER DIFFERENCES

    Should we make different sprites for gender-differing Pokemon? I mean, it's relatively simple to do; I made male Xatu in like 15 seconds, only had to add a yellow stripe.

    [​IMG] See?

    I could go over and change the sprites to have male/female ones, it's no big deal. Also Xatu is waiting for QC.

    Edit: You guys love making me feel like a lame spriter with all your awesome stuff. .-.

    Wizwum - The second one for sure

    Scept - Torterra and Sceptile look awesome, but Sceptile's left (our right) arm is waaaay too thin. Also don't hog the percentage for the 28 Unown formes. :P

    Darkanine - Flareon is cool, but you should make a version with the gen 4 coloring.
  9. Wizwum

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    Apologies, Alch. For some reason I thought you had updated since those posts had been made. Not entirely sure why tbh, but cheers for sorting that out. :)

    Anyway, made some edits to Lugia. I was unsure of the belly shading so there are two versions. Take your pick:

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  10. Scepticallistic

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    Soooo...I've been a bit dead the past week (or was it 2?). School work was overwhelming, and the spare time I had I spent playing HeartGold...yeah. XD

    I think I like the second one, Wizwum.


    I'm not sure who let the Yanma pass, but I'm not a fan of it. The wings are all different shapes, and it looks really off even taking into account the bending and perspective of them. The pupils could also be a little bigger and looking more to the left. The eye part could also be rounded out a little. I think there's definitely more potential in that one.

    Loudred and Magnezone are good. They can pass. :D I also think all the Unown can pass, haha. In my percentage count on the gallery website, I took into account each Unown form as a different sprite, so our percentage will shoot up with those. :P (Which means, Alch, that it would be nice if the Sprite Completed number in the OP should take into account each Unown as 28 sprites. :])

    I reserve Larvitar, Pupitar, and Tyranitar who appear to be clear.
  11. wickdaggler

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    Wizwum, definatly the second one.
    Also, enter Flareon!
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    I am the lord of hellfire, and I bring you... FIRE!!

    I love this pose. It's the right size, but the tail might be a tad big. I can shrink it if you guys like, and I can also do it in the Gen4 color scheme... although I hate it.

    I tried doing eevee... that didn't turn out so well.
  12. Nopie

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    Wizwum, I definitely prefer the second Lugia.

    Scepticallistic, Torterra's new tree looks much better, thanks for that. Sceptile looks great too, I think the arm on the right is a smidge too skinny though.

    Darkanine, Flareon looks pretty good, although to be honest the angle at which it's set looks really weird. It looks like it isn't standing on flat ground, instead it seems as though the ground is sloping up to the right at about 30 degrees. That could be just me, but it really does look quite strange.

    Also, I'm reserving Giratina, Dialga, and Palkia as they appear to be up for grabs. Legendary trios gogogo!
    Although I suppose that's more of a quartet than a trio, seeing as Giratina has two formes all to itself.
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    I'm gonna try this, with my first attempt here:

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    Incredibly small mon, suprised me. Probably too big >.>
    I also didn't want smoke, would have made it worse imo, though you may say differently.
    Anyway, Wizwum i prefer the right Lugia.
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    Because nobody wants to look like an ass and tell you "redo the sprite."


    Sceptile's nose looks weird. I see what you were going for, but it still look weird.

    Lugia looks nice, but the eyes seem too stressed. This sprite is bigger so the eyes can't just be 2px wide.


    Flareon's pose looks cool, but it's still edgy and feels cramped.
  15. Scepticallistic

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    I traced directly over the Pokemon card, but I reduced the sharpness of the snout.

    And Arch, that constricted pupil is like a signature facial expression of an angry Lugia. XD
  16. Tayla

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    Like, I said, I didn't MAKE the original Weavile. I just revamped the colors and fixed the feet. And there's no point in letting it sit for months, just to stop yourself from being an "ass". If a sprite needs to be redone, say something before someone takes the time to fix the damn thing.




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    Meh.
  17. TacoHawk76

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    I want you all to look closely at the blaziken that was posted on the previous page. Now get up and try to assume its pose. Awkward eh? The arm coming towards us IS oddly positioned, and it is indeed tubby, and the shading is weird. The light is coming from the topleft, whilst the shading on the closest arm makes it look more like direct left.

    Love the Snub/Gran bull family Nopie, but the Granbull looks too... hotpink. It needs more of a subdued, grayish purple, not a pink-n-proud kind of thing you have goin on there

    Sceptallastic, That is a marvelous pose for Sceptile. My only nitpick for right now is that the shading on the tail looks... straight. I know that your art is technically correct, as the object casting a shadow is indeed straight, but it doesn't strike me as natural to have such a clean-cut line.

    Darkanine, I am a personal disliker of sprites that cover themselves. It IS a cute pose, but we need to see the body, otherwise it looks like a ball of fire with two legs and a face. The ears are super-floppy. The fiery fur looks awesome, though the shading is questionable. Shouldn't the tail be casting a shadow on the body from that angle? There is also that weird band of highlight going across the paw. And the face seems chubby, but I believe this is a combination of boring mouth placement (no smile D:), the looking-at-me-from-below angle and the shading.

    EDIT: Damn, just read that over to myself and realized that I was being mean as hell... I was sleepy and stressed... Take no personal offense, I'm just irritable right now. But what I shan't take back what I said!
  18. phirre

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    Um, hey--

    I found this thread and spend the afternoon reading all of it- de-lurking to what you guys are doing is amazing and there's really fantastic stuff here.

    I was inspired to try- but I'm new to this, and if someone pointing me in better directions it would be great.

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    I'm not sure the colors I used were bold enough for different shades. Also, I wonder if my lines are too dark? The dark lines feel more Pokemon-y to me, but it does not seem to match with the general style around here, overall. I'm pretty sure I got the size right at least!

    Any thoughts would be appreciated, I had fun giving this a shot.
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    That's very good for a first sprite! :) The only thing I really see is its eyes should be looking bottom left.
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    Baaaaawwwww

    Anyway, I'm happy to make a few major corrections, but I'd like you guys to look at the source image first.
    I can move the feet, but I think the highlight band going across it's paw looks... awsome. That's why I kept it in when I shaded it. I'll give it a smile. Also, the "angle" is suppost to be glorifying flareon. That's why I chose it.
  21. Scepticallistic

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    Some quick corrections right before school:
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    Very light dithering on the tail? ._. Wizwum's going to chew me out, haha.

    The Manaphy could be rounded out a bit. The antennae are jagged and the legs are ever-so-slightly square.
  22. Wizwum

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    Alright then, here's the final Lugia:

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    I'm gonna keep the eye as it is. I tried making it larger but it just looks too cuddly and friendly. The tiny pupil helps portray the feeling of sheer power and badassery of Lugia, and couple with an angry demeanor, that only increases its awesomeness, IMO. Lugia is portrayed too happy in sprites, I find, and as such I like this kind of expression.

    Haha, the dithering is good on Sceptile as the tail is supposed to be a bush, and so textured. Dithering works when its used for texture, and used lightly, but when something with smooth skin uses it all over the whole sprite, I'm not a fan.

    Helix, I'm intrigued as to why you keep making Pikachu sprites when there's already one thats been submitted and accepted...

    Sceptile looks good, but I think it stills looks a bit too Professor Snape. I dunno, maybe if you add the nostril and 'face definition' (ie, along its nose, and its eyelid) seen in the reference art, that may help the issue. Lets see some texture! :D

    As to the other sprites, reiterating the general comments made here. Manaphy is all 45 degree lines at the moment. Smooth out those curves and it'll be a great sprite.
  23. Nopie

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    The color scheme for Granbull is exactly the same as the official sprite used in Heart Gold and Soul Silver, so if you don't like the look of it you're better off complaining to the Pokemon Company instead of me :p

    Your Numel looks really good, especially for a first sprite. The colors are fine, the darkness of the lines are fine, and the pose is good. There's not much that needs improving, it just needs some smoothing out here and there. Well done!

    Now that I've seen the source art I can definitely say that the angle that it's standing is very strange. The fact that the ground isn't more or less completely flat isn't doing Flareon any favors. All of the sprites in this project (and probably all other Pokemon games) have been created assuming a flat ground. It's a good sprite by itself, but remember these are for the battles within the game, and consistency is key. Imagine it in the context of a double battle - we'd have one Pokemon standing flush with the ground and next to it we'd have Flareon standing on what appears to be tilted ground. That would just look weird. Also, I agree with TacoHawk in that the pose isn't very good as it obscures almost the entire back half of Flareon's body.

    With those things taken into account, I think it might be best to scrap that one and start over.



    Here's Blaziken again. I removed the weird shading on the arm, I'm not sure why I had it there in the first place.
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  24. NikLink

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    Actually, the shading and outlining you used wasn't like the one used in spriting. You used way more than one highlight, one normal and one shadow color. And the outlining isn't how you outline sprites, but I honestly don't think I can explain this that well. Also I aded the little hole it has in its back, made the snout and the sandy colored part of it smaller, filled the sole for its lower left foot and removed the lower right foot. I know its in the pose but how slightly changed the pose in the pixelover it didn't look good. Also lots of tinkering here and there.

    Torkoal is too big. the sprite is 2'2 and its not even standing straight, whereas its supposed to be 1'8. Torkoal is seriously small o_O. Its a good sprite nevertheless, though I feel like its head is too small.

    Manaphy is too big, too. The sprite is 1'6 (barring antennae), and it should be 1'0. Also the antennae look weird, and you could remove the highlighting on the tip of its arms. But the rest is pretty good.

    Sceptile, its left (our right) arm is really, really thin.
  25. phirre

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    Feedback! Thanks.

    Hmm, I can be more strict with the shading colors. Didn't notice that I got that carried away. Agree with its back right foot, should have remembered its hole. I don't really like for the completed outlining on the back left foot, but to each their own. Thanks.

    But your comment on that's not really how you outline sprites worries me- I know you said you weren't sure you could explain well, but if you (or someone else) could try a little I would quite grateful... I'm really not sure what you mean, but I'd like to learn!

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