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Pokémon X and Y Discussion

Discussion in 'Trou Du Cul' started by Birkal, Jan 8, 2013.

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  1. skitz0phrenic

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    It was pretty obvious back then given the success of the franchise at the timethat they would have time to keep growing these young ideas riding off the initial success of gen 1 and the hype of main sequels. Especially given how much we know about pokemon designs for future gens being done generations before they were even released.

    Personally I don't feel like the franchise has another 3-4 gens of success left in it.
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    You are really pumping out the praise for something that really isn't that amazing of a leak. Many people have concocted lists like this, as you say, but even the presentation of it is tired.
    "Oh here's some stuff from memory!" *"vague" descriptions and types that literally every leak does ever.* (Seriously so many of these have the same tone to them I have to think its intentional)
    "Oh hey my correspondent has more stuff ;D" *full list of his ideas*

    Cactowl dude, several sets of rumors from the BW1 days, the various rumors from just before the XY reveal (DIGITAL TYPE. POKEMON RAINBOW. ETC). And so on. All these rumors had varying level of detail & extensiveness to them, like this one does and the fandom will talk about them because they're starved for information; that's less his doing and more the natural course of things.
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    I think at some point (which me may already have passed) it will become so repetitive that the original fans of the series begin to lose interest entirely, opting to quit when they still have fun and unspoilt memories of the franchise.

    However, while that indeed happens, every generation serves to drag in new fans to the series. Those fans will stick around for a generation or two, before they eventually outgrow it. But by the time they quit, new ones come to take their place, and so on.

    Consider the great American comic book heritage, for instance. The characters are 70+ years old, yet still attract new fans. Those who read the originals might think the direction the franchise has taken and the choices done by the executives have completely screwed the entire spirit of the series, while younger readers are unable to identify with the original series their grandparents loved. Either way, the franchise survives and is popular. Pokémon may still have decades ahead of it before discontinuation - even though that might mean a gritty reboot now and then.
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    Gotta agree with R_N, this Fakedex is nothing cool. I've made fakemon with Fakedexes... hell... I'll sound insane, but I've made 4, and cm currently on my fifth. I could post one like it were some sort of new leak if I wanted to be a douche... but I don't.

    I mean, I have all sorts of fun things like a Muay Thai dragon, a Thick Fat Ground/Flying Pig... with wings (when Pigs fly) and I can guaruntee I've found a way to make every unused type combination into a feasible creature of some sort... and that was based on Gen 4 stats.


    Still, I won't try and claim that they're a leak... that's my point. This whole leak getting a lot of attention is cramping the flow... or some jive like that.
  5. cantab

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    Not to mention Gold and Silver had only one Dark type available before the Elite Four.

    And of course the ratios could be rebalanced in later gens. Ruby and Sapphire quadrupled the number of fully-evolved dragon-types, and that was a type present from day one.
  6. skitz0phrenic

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    I get the coming and going of new and old players. I'm an original player that started playing when I got Blue for christmas when I was in like 6th grade and I still play today, and I still think the games have been great all the way through. Overall though, sales wise, the series isn't climbing anymore. It's kind of peaked and it's just riding it out. The numbers aren't bad by any means but generally in situations like this in gaming you don't get another large spurt of growth. I don't think the game is ever going to be larger than it's been before, and eventually it's just going to fade out. It's inevitable of practically any game franchise or long standing 'thing' in general.
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    If that info the 4chan guy gave us is true, then the pre-evos of pinsir and heracross should be revealed march 15 on croconno.
  8. Flaming Piranha

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    If they aren't, then his whole theory will just come tumbling down.
  9. skitz0phrenic

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    Disney has had completely different generations of popular franchises over the years as well. The stuff making Disney money right now didn't even exist when I was a kid. I get your point but Disney wasn't necessarily the greatest analogy.
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    I bet there are going to be so many fake scans based on this
    Are you excited
    I'm excited
  11. Magistrum

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    As much as I'd like to believe what Mr. XY has posted, I just can't. 'Houndoomed' is just WTF he could've at least made an effort to make it Houndread or Houndeath or something. And LOL over cocojoe. No, that list is not happening.
  12. Infernis

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    Frankly, I'd be pumped as hell to play a new Pokemon version with my children in 3-4 generations' time, assuming that they each take 3-4 years to make. (When I've had children and they're old enough to figure stuff out.) Using my rad old Scizor and Quagsire is possibly co-operative games, maybe. So there's possibly that bump. And you never know, augmented reality or holograms bringing it 'to life' could prove even more wildly popular. Expanded multiplayer could be incredible.

    It's strange to say 'situations like this in gaming'. There never has been a situation like this in gaming. When's the last time there was a 17-year-old franchise that has consistently put out the most popular games on its primary console, has a very popular anime, thirty-something manga series, merchandise out the wazoo... and fans clamoring for remakes of older games so that they can play them again. Sure isn't Medal of Honor, by any measure.
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    Omg Scizor with physical Hidden Power would be so fun and so broken! Imagine Scizor with any type of physical move it wants with 90 BP (60 BP + 30 BP from Technician). Good look countering this fucker Skarmory and Jellicent, as CB HP Electric easily 2HKOes both of you without SR, while any Gyarados variant and Tentacruel are OHKOed after SR as well...
  14. Yveltal

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    Has anybody spoken about this?
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    Kaenchu was stated to be able to use techniques similar to a hydrogen bomb's explosive power when the japanese were fussing over its legitimacy.

    Before wondering whether or not Game Freak would ever do anything more for Pikachu that doesn't concern a new item or egg move, does Pikachu deserve a branched evolution?
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    Well, electric-fire pikachu looks pretty cool, and some of the fan art is sweet, but I can't get over that thing's stoned look.

    At any rate, a branch evolution for pikachu is definitely something I'd want to see. It could have the chance to make pikachu actually usable, perhaps physical instead of special, similar to gallade. Iirc gallade/gardevoir is the only family to have 4 different pokemon in the same "line".
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    Wow, speaking of it, I would really like some sort of collaborative multiplayer (say, all battles you enter together become double battles, triple battles, etc.), and be able to battle/share items. Just basically like teh C-gear but A LOT MORE. PLEASE???
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    Good sir, Oddish, Poliwag and Tyrouge are all very upset that you forgot their families! All of the branched species share a similar relation that Gardevoir and Gallade have stat-wise, and it would be good fun to see how they could rearrange Raichu's stats for a new evolution.
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    No. No way. If anyone is getting a branched evolution its not the freaking mascot that is everywhere. Pikachu has already too much exposure. IMO scyther and onyx deserve one better. You know theire metal coat evos are steel based so it would be cool for then to have another coat like item to evolve into a diferent typed evo.
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    That firekachu IS adorable, but I'd rather treat it as a branch evo for pichu, making it a different species from pikachu altogether.
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    Guess you didnt get the irony. Did you even read his second sentence?

    Edit: Oh ninja'd all the way.

    Ontopic: that flamekachu thing looks pretty cool, i'd like to see that, but not as an evo for pikachu, i'd much more like to see it as a new line.
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    With a max stat of 100, a simple shuffle isn't going to help much I reckon. It'd need a killer ability, and then why not just give that ability to Raichu?
  22. Dark Arceus

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    Look like Pikachu + Emboar body design + Electrical Plug as tail. Those flames and the overall feel are very Emboarish, so I'm sure that's not legit lol. It may just be me though. But I personally see Emboar design though. Or at least emboar inspired. Would be cool if real but I doubt it.
  23. Infernis

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    Looks more like Sparkrai to me. But split evolution Onix to be something weird like Electric/Ground would be neat.
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    Or something like that crytal onix from the anime, do you guys remember that thing? I always thought that beast was epic. Something like ground/ice ore rock/ice split evo (yeah will never ever happen)
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    This guy says hi.
    I'd be on board with a branched evolution for Onix. There's plenty of stuff Game Freak could base one off of. Let's say it's based on comets. Comets are made of ice and rock, so it could be a Rock/Ice. Everybody's happy.
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