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Pokémon X and Y Discussion

Discussion in 'Trou Du Cul' started by Birkal, Jan 8, 2013.

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  1. Hiphopanonymous

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    I wouldn't mind seein a Shuckle prevo, and then a seperate evolution to that. Kinda like Slowpoke to Slowbro OR Slowking. POS little crapbasket to Shuckle OR other thing. You could just say evolve the damn thing, but WHO in their right mind wants to beat down an Eviolite Shuckle? Also, I'm in the "meh" category when it comes to a possible new type. As long as it's not some super retarded gimmick type. Maybe a couple retypings would be nice too, (looking at ya'll, Charizard and Gyarados.) If X and Y did reveal some retyped old pokes, what would you guys wanna see??
  2. Dark Fallen Angel

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    I whish they boosted Dark-types and Ghost-types in general. Dark- and Ghost-type attacks already have great coverage and most competitive teams carry very few resistances to these attacks, most which are Steel-types, which are easy to remove with a Fire- or Fighting-type attack or Pokémon. For example, Gengar is technically as strong and as fast as Latios. However, Latios hits harder in general because it has Draco Meteor, a 140 BP attack, instead of having to rely on Shadow Ball, a 80 BP attack. Gengar could be a terror if it had a stronger attack to complement its force. CBTar would be even more difficult to switch into if it had a stronger Dark-type STAB than Crunch. Hydreigon would love to have a secondary Dark-type STAB to use than Dark Pulse, so it could use this attack without having to rely on Draco Meteor, so it could keep Draco Meteor to more dangerous things.

    A weather for Dark-types and Ghost-types (Darkness? Dark Sky? Night?) would be an excellent idea, though it is less likely to happen than, say, Light-type.

    Speaking of which, I heavily suspect that Dark- and Ghost-types will be boosted on this generation (much like Fighting-types were boosted on the Gen V) and that Gen VI will be heavily Light and Darkness themed. Although Gen V was already Black-and-White dualism themed, Gen V is more about dualisms in general than specifically about Light and Darkness. Also, neither Black necessarily represented Dark on Gen V, nor White represented light on Gen V. I suspect that Light and Darkness dualism will be the theme for Gen VI. This is evidenced on the lot of evidences that there will be a Light type or Fairy-type. Not to mention Xerneas and Yveltal themselves.
  3. BloodGod22

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    Must...feed...on...new...info!!!

    And Pokemon is tweeting trivia games instead of giving us some new information. And don't look to deep into this whole "Castform gets an evo" thing.
    We are talking about Trollfreak here, they probably give him a baby pre-evo just to defecate on our hopes.
  4. Flaming Piranha

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    Gengar -> Ghost/Dark
    Flavour-wise, I can understand Gastly being a Poison type, but Gengar is based on a shadow, and that has nothing to do with poison. Plus, dark types are known to be dirty fighters, and Gengar is certainly very mischievous, and I can imagine it playing tricks on the opposition.
    Competitively, a dark stab has way better coverage than poison stab, and Gengar's current Psychic weakness isn't helping it at all.
  5. dcae

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    They could bring back Night, that is absolutely genius. Since they took out night in Gen V, we could see a combo of that and seasons, although not the pokemon availability, and instead bring it into battles with the effect of boosting Dark and Ghost types. This could become a huge metagame affector and actually seems decently likely. Yveltal could become the Night inducer.
  6. R_N

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    Maybe I'm misreading things but Night is still in Gen 5?
  7. dcae

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    Oh my bad, just realized that the only thing they removed was the pokemon availability at different times. Just realized they had to have night. But I still think they should implement it as a weather.
  8. inanimate blob

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    They didn't take out night, but it doesn't effect what Pokémon you can encounter.
  9. Dark King Alexx

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    I know there have been no clues, but is anyone with me when I say Zangoose and Seviper should get evolutions, similar to Electabuzz and Magmar?
  10. Bearded Dragonite

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    Actually, yeah!
    It'd make sense since there'd also be a 3 Generation gap betweem them.
    Plus, both of those pokémon are cool as fuck, so they deserve to be better...
  11. SmashBrosBrawl

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    Castform evolution. Nonononono, i do not want another regular mon being broken. Gen 5 was fiddle with them. Castform getting new moves or an exclusive item that makes it usable however, is somehing i want to see. Kinda how they made with sableye. A simple addition that made then usable yet still handable.
  12. Mario With Lasers

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    Castform: 70/70/70/70/70/70
    Evo: 90/90/90/90/90/90


    How would it be broken
  13. SmashBrosBrawl

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    How i wish it was base 90 all around. Knowing gamefreak it will probably have high offenses. Combine that with an insane movepool and the ability to function in any weather.
  14. R_N

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    Oh no it would have a niche how terrible????
  15. Dark Fallen Angel

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    Night could be another counterpart to sun. Sun represents Fire, but could also represent the Light- or Fairy-type if it existed. Before someone says that this does not make sense, remember that while sun exists, it can technically be "summoned" at night, in fact, on japanese, Sunny Day is called "Clear Sky". I also see it becoming a metagame factor. Imagine if Hydreigon could be used on this weather, assuming that it boosted Dark-type attacks by 50%, Hydreigon could use a super-powerful Dark Pulse to kill things, then if needed, the power of Draco Meteor could be used.

    For example, lets say that Tyranitar gain the ability to summon the "Night". A Choice Band, Night-boosted Adamant Crunch can 2HKO physically defensive Hippowdon! It also has a fairly high chance to OHKO 252/80 Gastrodon, 2HKO offensive Heatran (Heatran resists Crunch!) and even 2HKO Terrakion and Keldeo (it is a shame that Tyranitar cannot outspeed them, as they will outspeed and OHKO Tyranitar back). Tyranitar can also OHKO specially defensive Jirachi after Stealth Rock or Spikes damage. Hydreigon can 2HKO even the most specially defensive Jirachi with Specs-boosted Dark Pulse, Life Orb variants can also do the same with Spikes support. This, is, of course, all assuming that a Night weather existed and it boosted Dark-type attacks.

    The reasons why I think that Gen VI will be Light and Darkness themed is because of Xerneas (which I suspect that represent darkness) and Yveltal (which represent light). Also, although it was not confirmed if there will be a new type, you all must admit that this generation had much more evidence of a Light type compared to past generations. This is another factor that can be used as a evidence to the Light and Darkness theme that Gen VI will possible have, as a Light-type can be introduced to counter the "darkness" (Dark-type), although they would have to heavily boost the Dark-type because competitively, it isn't all that great.

    Also, although many of you may say that this has nothing to do, I think that this is another reason why the Gen VI will be themed around Light and Darkness, and should be considered. The Gen VI region is based on France, an european country. Christianity is the dominant religion on Europe, and the christian religion has a lot of dichotomies based on Light and Darkness, such as Jesus and Satan. I used to thougth that Xerneas and Yveltal could be linked to Jesus and Satan (respectively), although they also have possibly connections with Thor and Loki (respectively), as there is also the theory that the legendaries from Gen VI are based on the Nordic mythology. If their Rayquaza/Giratina/Kyurem-esque master is revealed to be based on Odin or God (the christian God), this would confirm this theory, as God can separate the Light from Darkness, or unite them. The Rayquaza/Giratina/Kyurem-esque master could be a Pokémon that would appear to end a battle between both Xerneas and Yveltal, just like Landorus stopped the battle between Thundurus and Tornadus.
  16. kaps

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    I don't want to see a 'light' type simply because it will cause many people to think of all dark types as 'evil' (an assumption already made too often already) just because of cultural preconceptions about light vs dark

    and I don't like forme changes either; it was okay for a few pokemon, but getting carried away ruins the uniqueness of it. I'd rather they just made it a different pokemon, perhaps related by a pre evolution

    With regards to Castform, while I would love an evolution for it and many other gimmick pokemon, I'm not sure how I feel about them making all pokemon eventually become strong through. This is pokemon, not the Soviet Union; pokemon aren't all equal and deserve to be as powerful as each other. that's not how nature works! as long as they leave some with single evolutions or weaker second/third evolutions, though, I think Castform would have just about the most interesting evolution.
  17. shockwave527

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    OR, it could just have a simple stat rearrange like Scizor!

    Castform: 70/70/70/70/70/70
    New Castform: 70/70/70/70/70/70

    PERFECT

    On the Castform evo, I might actually want to see something where it evolves into a different thing based on the last weather it was in. Also, I think I posted some of these already, but:

    Some new weather conditions (along with the old ones) and how it should effect castform, plus what it would evolve into:

    Rain/Water Type/Castorm
    Sunny/Fire Type/Castray
    Hail/Ice Type/Casflake
    Sandstorm/Ground Type/Cassand
    Fog/Ghost Type/Cascare
    Leaf Storm/Grass Type/Castem
    Acid Rain/Poison Type/Castox
    Erosion/Rock Type/Castone
    Thunder Storm/Electric Type/Casshock
  18. Mario With Lasers

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    I don't think evolving every pokémon is bad because of the power creep; if Castform got an all-90 evolution, it would probably be awesome in RBY or GSC... but not in BW, much less in XY's metagame. Evolving everything would shuffle the power balance, but it would be more or less kept in place. Even if everything had normalized 600 BST, there would still be some pokémon stronger than others, and the few that would still suck. But at least everything would be slightly usable.

    This is why I loved the Dream World; they gave a lot of special niches and gimmicks to some pokémon and, while they didn't become a bunch of Dragonites and Toeds, they had something to work off of, be it in OU, or UU or even RU. It's kinda bad that a pokémon cannot be used in higher tiers, but it's even worse if it cannot be used anywhere, if it has nothing to differentiate itself. And that's exactly where Castform stands right now.

    How would erosion be a weather
  19. blitzlefan

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    I like this! So it'd be kind of like Rotom I suppose? Perhaps with some slight stat deviancies to make each one unique. Also, this thing, even with big stat upgrades, would be nowhere near broken. If they didn't make each stat different, even with +30/+30/+30/+30/+30/+30, it would still just be a pixie lol, and base 100s throughout is still not overpowered. It'd be interesting to have a niche though in OU. Despite lackluster stats, the ability to function in any weather would make it a decent competitor for team slots i suppose.
  20. Vashimus

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    The Dark type is called the Evil type in Japan. It makes sense because the majority of Dark type moves revolve around deceit, cruelty, and just all around being an asshole. Hence why the parallel of Light type vs. Dark type doesn't make sense, since light isn't directly the opposite of evil. Good is, and we already have a "good" type. Fighting, which is why it's strong against it, and why the ability Justified exists (which is seen mostly on Fighting types).

    They simply changed it to Dark because Evil sounds a bit extreme, especially for young kids.
  21. Infernis

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    Basically all Castform ever had going for it was Weather Ball, and now Ho-Oh and a snowcone get it. (Though admittedly it's the only one to always get STAB, except in sand.) I would love to see it used more often, and for that it needs something extra. More speed would be great, since it already has powerful moves, but more offensive stats couldn't hurt. Defense boosts wouldn't be horrible, since its moves make up for its low offensive stats somewhat.

    EDIT: And Arcanine + Absol get it because the first is famous for saving people, and the latter is always warning people about of disasters. (And thus is really weird for a dark type.)
  22. Sharkopath

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    What about the possibility that Game Freak will not make new evolutions to old Pokes if that would make the old Pokes stronger with Eviolite? Under this condition, Shuckle, Skarmory and others would most likely not get new evolutions. Maybe Pokes like Sableye are better candidates for new evolutions.
  23. Mario With Lasers

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    There's also Froslass (with STAB!), Roserade and dumb Raikou.

    ...And it just occurred to me CoroCoro might have some info on Castform. I know that's not really rational, somebody from Japan would have already mentioned it, but God, I hate this lack of news.

    They could simply nerf Eviolite. Or maybe they don't care. And they CLEARLY didn't care already lol, just look at Chansey; she's already more defensive overall than Skarmory, without Eviolite.
  24. SmashBrosBrawl

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    What? Gen 5 is the one based on dualism. Light and Darkness, Yin and Yang etc. Gen 4 is the one with a god pokemon which is Arceus. And Gen 5 was obviously the only opportunity to introduce this ''light/good/sparkling/whatever'' type. When Reshiram and Zekrom were announced everyone was like ''LIGHT AND DARK LEGENDS" then we got the revelation that they were Dragons with fire and electric respectively as secondary typings. So no, its pretty clear that gamefreak has no itention nor has it ever had intention to introduce this kind of typing and theres nothing in Gen 6 that seems to support that specially when Gen 5 already used the Light vs Dark concept without the typings.
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    Standing under falling rocks?

    Couldn't think of a better term.
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