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Pokémon X and Y Discussion

Discussion in 'Trou Du Cul' started by Birkal, Jan 8, 2013.

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  1. Infernis

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    Hey, Golurk was totally worth having Vanillite around. Golurk's one of my favorite BW Pokemon. My friends and I watched all the Pokemon movies a few months back, and Golurk was the reason I made it through that Reshiram/Zekrom movie awake. Rocket-fist Determinator Golurk was a true hero. On the other hand, I've always had a deep-seated hatred for Snubbull. No problem having a little diversity in who makes the designs so long as they're all checked for stupid first. (A bigger Magmar... with a cannon! Yeah!)
  2. PapillonReel

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    In all honesty? If Cyclohm and Necturna made it into an actual Pokémon game I would explode with sheer joy.
  3. CJorex

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    How about Icecreams and Totem poles?
  4. clapyourhands

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    I've always liked Xatu's design... it certainly was more interesting than some of the other blander Flying-type designs.
  5. Lord Jesseus

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    He may have meant sigilyph... though I quite like sigilyph.
  6. Infernis

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    Sigilyph was based on the Nazca Lines, I think. It's a little garish and overwrought, but not all of them can be winners. (Only 50% can be in the best half, after all!)
  7. b2j135

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    The closet I think to someone NOT from Nintendo doing official Pokemon creations would be Mr. Turner
  8. CAPS alt

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    For those who think dragon types should be nerfed I highly they won't be nerfed coz you know they are dragons afterall.
  9. Spork

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    Fuckin shelmet, man! Samurott! Volcarona! Whimsicott! STUNFISK! I have to say, I've never loved gen 1 designs, except, really, for the cuter ones, as a wee bairn; every other generation has struck me as more designedly successful. Gen 1's design policy of adding girth n' heads to every evolution, or putting spikes and ridged plates on everything, or using bland, monotone pallets, has never been particularly interesting. I feel like most of them would fail to win a CAP contest.

    (that said, gen 2 holds most of my favorite designs, and isn't wholly dissimilar, but oh well~)
  10. GeeZee

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    I think Ledian and Ariados are pretty good designs, but I just wish they'll get an evolution this gen...
  11. BloodGod22

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    Vanilluxe is my favorite pokemon ever!

    It combines my two favorite things into one single from.
    5th gen had some of my favorite pokemon designs.
  12. Ingo

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    I love all of these, but if you give me the whole "They are excused because they are gen 1" or "Simple is better" I'm going to smack someone in the face.
  13. Squishyfrog

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    I think the closest someone not from Nintendo working on Pokemon is probably someone from Game Freak.

    Also, why do people take the worst designs from a Gen and then say "this Gen's Pokemon suck". A couple of bad Pokes doesn't suddenly make the whole Gen bad, IMO.
  14. kaps

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    I actually sort of disagree. Every generation there seems to be a few lazy pokemon designs, and I feel that in their quest to reach over 100 different designs each time they ran into some problems. Examples are from every generation, from the first generation tendency to just use multiple of the previous evolution as a second second evolution (diglett to dugtrio, magnemite to magneton) and sludge piles to the fifth generation's infamous use of trash and ice cream cones. Not to mention they still just added multiple, larger gears to the klink line. Lazy designs aren't exclusive to any generation, but at the same time it would be false to say that they've never had at least some trouble coming up with new ideas to put into each game. But then after they release that game, they have a bunch of time again to continue working with designs which didn't make the cut that time around as well as to create entirely new and well-thought out ones.
  15. kupo555

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    I thought overall Turner's contributions were admirable. Golurk became one of my favorite pokemon ever, and the Vullaby design is super cute and clever. Admittedly, the Vanilluxe line is one of my least favorite ever, but even that I can't blame them for trying. I mean, another one of my very favorite pokemon is Chandelure (and his whole line is fantastic), and they were based off an odd inanimate object to draw inspiration from, too.

    I think all we're establishing here is that taste differs a lot, because nobody can seem to agree on which designs are "bad." I know several listed are ones I appreciate (I especially tend to hear some of the Gan IV evos getting shit, but I think Magnezone and Electivire are among the coolest pokemon ever, and I think Mr. Cannon-arm is a huge improvement over his butt-headed predecessor). Different strokes.

    I will agree, though, some fan contests would be splendid. If you spend a lot of time looking up fakemon (and I do...too much, lol), it becomes undeniably clear that there are plenty of creative fans out there doing work absolutely on par with GF. I've seen countless fakemon designs that were more clever, more thoughtful, and more aesthetically compelling than a lot of GF's stuff. That said, I think GF has remained pretty consistent gen to gen. You're always going to have some winners and some clunkers.
  16. b2j135

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    Well he didn't work for Game Freak BEFORE 2010, so he really is the closet one. I do agree that they should hold a contest or something for the next Generation of Pokemon for fans to create.
    Maybe something similar to what was GOING to happen with MegaMan Legends 3.
  17. Dark Fallen Angel

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    I really like the idea of Game Freak accepting fan-made designs for official Pokémon. I, for example, have a lot of ideas, many of them that could be good for the metagame and for the casual fans at same time.
  18. Yveltal

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    Uhmm... yes he did. He was the art director, or something along those lines, for Gale of Darkness and had an important role amongst Game Freak's third party developers. He got some designs made into actual Pokemon for being such a good person. As far as Game Freak successfully pulling off what Capcom seems to enjoy failing to do, the fan support of people who would want to make something that's true to Satoshi Tajiri's initial design is definitely there. I'm all for the idea of a fanmade Pokedex, if only to make is all happier.
  19. SmashBrosBrawl

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    Fan-made designs getting official? No. I want to see what the developers can do. Its ok if they make like one contest for a single pokemon but that can not become a trend. This will lead to lazyness and we all know what happens when a company gets lazy. GameFreak still has a bunch of concepts that havent be used yet. Lets see what they can do.
  20. R_N

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    Also let's get real, there are a ton of absolutely awful fan designs and seeing the fandom bend over backwards to like/hate the chosen design would be equally awful.
  21. Yveltal

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    Yeah, but that happens with a lot of franchises and shows that do fan-based competitions. The most popular contestant/design/idea gets added in, and we all see how it turns out. You act like everyone in the community is going to turn against each other if they allowed fans to submit ideas.
  22. R_N

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    I'm not saying this at all?
    I'm saying probably one of two things would happen:
    -They would love the design, even if it's something they'd normally consider bad, just because it's ~fan-designed~ & therefore better than those stupid uncreative designs gamefreak pumps out.
    -They would hate the design irrationally and nitpick even harder than already happens with actual designs (maybe they hate the idea on principle, maybe they hate that -their- [favorite] design wasn't picked, etc)

    thus "bend over backwards to like/hate"
    The fandom already hates each other, adding in fan-designs won't change that.
    It would just be an all new really obnoxious addition. And I know a thing or two about people being obnoxious!
  23. Yveltal

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    And that potential nitpicking/hipsteresque fawning over fanmade Pokemon would be worse than the present complaining about how there isn't a dolphin or a capybara Pokemon, or how unoriginal and bland Castform looks to people who don't know what a teru teru bozu is? The arguments about any one Pokemon's design on face value alone are pretty tired. Officially licensed fanmade Pokemon, as far as I can see, will only add another level of questioning about the inner workings of Game Freak. Were they looking for something to match a certain habitat? Did they want new evolutions for old Pokemon? Lawless bitching aside about why my dragon didn't get picked over that one kid's fish, it would give us the ability to talk more about the business side of making a new generation.
  24. BloodGod22

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    It's painful to watch the fanbase chew on eachother because of the lack of new info on gen VI.

    Atleast its better than talking about the dreaded Light or Fairy types *throws holy water at them as they hiss*!
  25. R_N

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    I...didn't say it would be any worse? Just that it would be an obnoxious addition [to already obnoxious discussion].
    We know a fair amount about this from interviews throughout the 5th generation, actually! (sidenote: I hope we get even more for gen 6) We know they do keep in mind the number of types (eg: Turner created the vanill line to add additional ice types to the pokedex; Jellicient became ghost type for similar reasons) and area distribution (intertwined with point A, the basculine & jellicient lines got form/gender differences to add more variety to the water routes).
    I suspect choosing a fan design (assuming they didn't implement large restrictions in the first place) would follow under the same categories: we want more <x> type, we want something for this route type, we want etc

    I suppose another thing to keep in mind with a would-be contest is: what about the designs not picked. What if a design submitted, but not chosen, looks/has a similar idea to a future pokemon that isn't credited since technically it's not the same? Would they just not follow through with any design that would match/be similar to any of the thousands of design submissions?
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