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Pokémon X and Y Discussion

Discussion in 'Trou Du Cul' started by Birkal, Jan 8, 2013.

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  1. Cobraroll

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    Saturday night, we will know for sure!

    Pokémon Smash! has promised a new Pokémon. Regardless if they're announcing this altered Mewtwo or something entirely different, we'll have a new creature on our hands anyway.
  2. skitz0phrenic

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    Right so if it's weaker and isn't strong enough to be banned to Ubers then clearly we shouldn't use it in OU anyway because you don't like it.

    Sound reasoning. These forums give me a headache.
  3. TheKAM1993

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    Here's something to say.

    Why the hell would Mewtwo even use this possible form if it makes him weaker? That is just downright insane.
  4. skitz0phrenic

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    The movies and how strong things are in the game are completely unrelated, says Kyurem, Mew, and Victini.

    This "mewthree" thing could be the most powerful thing ever in the movie and suck ass in the game. Wouldn't be the first time.
  5. TheKAM1993

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    I didn't say anything about the anime. GF would not give a form to a Pokemon to make it weaker. It would either get stronger or it would just have it's stats rearranged, but it wouldn't get weaker because that would be a complete waste.
  6. Mario With Lasers

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    神速のゲノセクト ミュウツー覚醒 | ポケモン紹介 | ポケモン映画公式サイト「神速のゲノセクト ミュウツー覚醒」同時上映「ピカチュウとイーブイ☆フレンズ」

    神速のゲノセクト ミュウツー覚醒 = relevant shit

    神速 is "godspeed", Extremespeed's Japanese name (and also a known term in English);
    ゲノセクト is, well, Genesect;
    ミュウツー is Mewtwo;
    覚醒 is "awakening".


    神速のゲノセクト would be "Genesect of Godspeed" or "Godspeed's Genesect". I find it weird that there's nothing between "Genesect" and "Mewtwo" or before "Awakening", but I can tell you this much: those guys at NowGamer are "investigating" my ass.

    Jeez, now that's what I call a long shot.

    Weird, this is the same kind of argument I see with legendaries. "Oh ok cool, we have these new cover legends but why add so damn many legendary trios and event ones aaaaaaa". Keldeo and Meloetta do have good reasons to get multiple forms/formes; if anything, it's Darmanitan and Shaymin who have the sketchier reasons. And yet I don't see anyone complaining on the former, while the latter usually doesn't get much complaints because "multiple formes were still cool back then".

    And if the kami trio's clouds weren't a clear hint they could be hiding something there, then I give up
  7. b2j135

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    Are you referring to Melee?
  8. Quickster

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    Mewtwo is ミュウツー not ミュウツ. The "hyphen" is part of the last syllable, marking a long vowel sound.
  9. TM13IceBeam

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    in jp versions it's [Pokemon's name here] の [move's name here], so a mewtwo using ice beam for example will be ミュウツーのれいとうビーム
  10. Exbo

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    http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/pokemon/long.php
    Can someone translate the middle and right bottom squares (the ones with Feraligatr and Charizard)? And does it say anything about the Sableye on the bottom left? I mean besides it's name (ヤミラミ, taken from Bulbapedia).
    The text is unselectable, so I can't use Google translate.
    Thanks in ADVance ;)
  11. Mario With Lasers

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    Oh of course, I totally forgot it was a long vowel. Derp.

    Yeah, I derped there as well.
  12. TM13IceBeam

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    as im seeing it i think it's just describing the genesect as 'godspeed'

    also it's worth noting that moves are written in hiragana or katakana, and never (at least, to my knowledge) are they written in kanji (iirc the only example of a move written with something other than hiragana or katakana is thunderbolt)
  13. R_N

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    If I'm remembering from when these were translated, wht, last month? Whenever the site went live, anyway.
    Sabeleye is just saying it's one of the pokemon in the Park who's befriended Ash & co.
    The other two are likely just saying the gang's Pokemon shows up and the last one is the Pokemon of the park
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    Rotom-S is in a lower tier than Rotom, and is a worse Pokemon in general despite having arguably better stats and some new and powerful moves. A new Mewtwo could gain some stats, but if it changes type to ice/flying (exaggeration), it's likely going down a peg.
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    [​IMG]

    So this pic was submitted to my tumblr on April 1st. Most likely fake (April Fools and all), but I was wondering if anyone had seen it before.
    Of course I have no source because it was sent to me, so sorry for that.
  16. b2j135

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    whew this REAKS of photoshop...and actually pretty bad too...the shaders don't even MATCH! And what is it suppose to be? X & Y's Metapod?
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    Still it isn't weaker. I'm not talking about the tiers or anything about competitive battling. Rotom-S is still stronger than normal Rotom. My point still stands.
  18. Infernis

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    No, Rotom-S is weaker. That is why it is not used in RU and Rotom is. Its lack of ghost type cripples it, since Rotom itself would be useless without it. A Mewtwo form with a different stat spread may be stronger on paper, but be dealt with more easily by Ubers Pokemon than the original. Therefore it would not be as good. For example, if could have its bulk reduced to a degree that any Extremespeed can kill it despite having base 255 SpA and Speed. The prevalence of the Extreme Killer would thus bury its usage, or at least bring up the Arceus usage to counter it.
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    He is speaking base stat wise. You are taking his words to competitively based. He is saying Rotom-S has higher base stats, and therefor is stronger in the sense of base stats. He is arguing that a new mewtwo forme would not have a lower base stat total then the current form.
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    On the lighter side of speculation, I want a vampire squid Pokemon :3 Because of the way they evolved IRL, it could have decent speed and a lot of health.
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    Going way back to the original trailer... there's a scene where the female character is running across a bridge:

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    Now, what do you see in this picture?

    "Old Pokémon in the statue!"

    Yes, but there's something else too.

    "Female main character!"

    And...?

    "Actual architecture!"

    However, have a look at extreme left, at the very top corner. There's a dish-shaped structure there. Kinda like a UFO. It's not something wrong with the screencap, it's there in the video too.

    It's clearly not the edge of the skybox. It looks out of place with the architecture, so I bet it's not a building. My best guess is that this is part of the antics of the villainous team. They'll be coming from above this time.

    Also, in the sequence where an entire room appears to be assembled from panels, if you pause at the exact right moment, you'll notice that the finished product looks remarkably like a very ordinary living room. If it hadn't been for the staple "Gym pillars", I would have guessed this was entering (or rather, returning from) a "separate dimension" à la Sinnoh Underground or Entralink. Perhaps we're looking at a (Psychic? Ghost?) Gym of illusions here?

    In the "Web skipping" scene we can also see something hidden underneath the web. It looks like huge plants with large dew drops, but might also be a statue of some new Pokémon. I'm inclined towards the former, but won't rule out the latter. It's a short clip, and the stuff is hidden in darkness and not shown very clearly. We wouldn't be able to draw any traits of a Pokémon from the second-long clip, but perhaps we'll recognise it as a new 'mon once we get there in the games. Or, again, it might just be leaves.
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    Evolution of gulurk (statue) and nice catch with the UFO thing. Now, is that palpitoad and a women in team plasma (old) uniform in the statue too? Anyone notice the dratini gargoyles on the building?
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    IMO they should have started with the alternate forms for the Kami Trio...

    I don't see how Keldeo's form is more justfied than others you mentioned; at least the others actually have differences beyond a single move.

    I think formes are a little overdone though, and legendaries too (legendary dragons especially so..)
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    The "Living Room" Gym (open)
    [​IMG]

    My guess is that the player is going to be traveling through fireplaces and windows, from room to room and from house to house. If you look at the gym before the transformation, you'll see that there are passageways behind the window on the right and the fireplace in the back:

    [​IMG]

    If you look carefully, you'll see that some of the blue paths at the back are deadends, so they're likely to be where the trainers are hiding. You will also see that the gym carries on downwards, perhaps hinting towards underground areas, or that it may be created by a psychic illusion.


    @above: I'm fairly sure that the reasoning behind Keldeo's Resolute forme is to show a change in Keldeo's maturity and strength, as it's been taught the "ultimate" move by the other three musketeers (Secret Sword). Of course, that doesn't mean it has to have a new forme to show that but it's more justified than Shaymin's sky forme, which doesn't have any reasoning behind it whatsoever.
  25. kaps

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    I completely agree

    as of now, not including any generation six pokemon, ~13% of all fully evolved pokemon (or about 7% of all pokemon) are legendary. There are more 'legendary' pokemon than Ice, Ghost, Fighting, Steel, Dark, Dragon, or Electric types

    they don't seem so special any more now do they.
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