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Discussion in 'Orange Islands' started by Stellar, May 10, 2013.
i was just trying to provide a semi-realistic reason for how it could be retyped.
You'd have to expand on how "They'd change flying" would really work before it becomes a realistic argument. The point of his statement is that Altaria is highly unlikely to lose it's Flying half because of its marketing history(it's been used in different spots of the media for it being a Flying type more often than being a Dragon type, much like how Pidgeotto is marketed as a Flying type before it's marketed as a Normal type). To chime in here, I can see it becoming a Fairy/Flying maybe (because it would still try to own its former Dragon brethren by continuing to hit them with a super effective STAB), but not a Dargon/Fairy.
I don't think that Pokemon with secondary typings will be retconned simply because it has never happened before. New typings have been always "added" to Pokemon, such as Magnemite, and whenever gamefreak wanted to retcon a Pokemon with a secondary typing, they just gave it an evolution, such as Scizor and Steelix.
& I think the fact that Jigglypuff became PART fairy and not full fairy seems telling to them not wanting to replace types
CoroCoro due this week, are we expecting any significant news?
You mean CoroCoro is due to leak this weekend. Maybe more Pokemon and characters. They might talk more about some new features. We never really know.
At this point more Pokemon and characters are a given, not a maybe
I'd hazard a guess that this month we will probably find out about the villainous team & our professor; I wouldn't be surprised to see more information on Newtwo. I'm guessing the special will give actual information on it so it might just be a rehash, though
If we somehow, between a special, the movie, and corocoro get NO INFORMATION WHATSOEVER on newtwo I will just be baffled as to why they revealed the thing at all
There was also the "Super Training" thing that was talked about in one of the strategy guides, Serebii mentioned it about a week ago. Along with that, there was also the rumored Aulotte Pokemon that apparently was shown in a trailer we haven't seen yet.
And like R_N said, Newtwo will probably get some info because of the special, which will probably give some information but leave it vague considering it's just the anime (so things like typing and stats will remain in the air).
As long as I learn something I'm happy.
I don't think we will have lots of new informations. This last month was a blessing, and October is not near ...
We're only three months away, so there's only three issues more before the game releases.
Yeah i know that techni mons love 60 bp mons but not really manny techni mons learn shadow Punch (can't i like say none does?)
Yeah Smeargle does but no-one uses smeargle with it i think.
Idk but wanting Honedge to evolve into a suit of armor is like wanting Rotom-W to evolve into a laundryman...
I want my sword standalone and treated like Spiritomb, I can already imagine the player character pulling it from a stone as part of a stiry or side-quest and it goes like, "The Sword you pulled attacked! Honedge appeared!"
It has happened before, actually. The Rotom formes changed their secondary types between gen IV and V. So you might even say it has happened 5 times over already. Ergo, there definitely is a precedent for this sort of thing. I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of the older mons had one of their types changed to Fairy.
That doesn't matter. Once they start unveiling information in full swing, we always get a reasonable amount of information every month until release
I would be, because the Rotom forms had their types changed to AVOID confusion with type matchups. Plus, they were changed to types we already have and recognize so this is irrelevant. Retconning secondary types to a NEW type would be ultimately confusing to the veteran players.
If poison is super effective against fairy types, which in this case would actually give new light to poison types being super effective against something other than grass, Bellossom's screwed lol. I also wouldn't mind seeing another Eevee type along with Sylveon being either dragon or poison. Every game introducing Eevee evo's has at least one type super effect against the other, IF they are truly adding another Eevee evo of course.
I think (and I hope) that there will be another Eeveelution this gen. Gens. II and IV introduced two new Eeveelutions so I don't think they'll break the pattern. But it is possible.
If they do introduce a new Eeveelution, I think it'll be Dragon or Fighting. I feel like these two types have a relation with the Fairy type. Fairies are the new answer to Dragon types, and both types have that exotic or mythical feeling to them (at least to me). I also consider Fighting a possibility for a pretty stupid reason, but I guess it could be possible. Gardevoir is going to be part Fairy in Gen. 6, and Gallade is part Fighting so I feel like there's a relation between those two types. I know haha, kind of dumb but that's just what I think.
Gen I introduced 3 Eeveelutions, so I wouldn't just assume that pattern will be followed.
Has anyone noticed this kinda pattern w/ Nintendo? Generation 1,3, and 5 introduce new pokemon while 2,4, and 6 introduce newly evolved lines to old pokemon. Gen 3 did bring Azurill and Wynaut, but they're pre-evolved and they might've been meant for gen 2, but were late on the deadlines. Anyone agree?
I believe most of us are banking on that to be case, actually.
a lot of people agree (on the 246 having new evos, not the stupid "meant for gen 2" thing) and have been expecting a slew of evolutions/pre-evolutions this gen.
And so did I buuuut I think it's a little weird that we our only evolution so far has been Slyveon (& a forme for mewtwo). If we don't get another evo shown soon I'm going to start to think that maybe Slyveon will be our only new evolution to an old line (so it could show off fairy type)
Though it would be kind of neat if they just hid all the new evos for you to find yourself
Well, think about this real quick - Generation 4 by this time (around 6 months in) had only hinted at three prevos: Munchlax, Bonsly, and Mime Jr. The only other ones to get mentioned were Happiny, Weavile, Mantyke, Budew, and Roserade, with the latter two not getting shown until about a month before. We may not have as many evos as Generation 4, but I'm almost certain we'll have some new ones. We just need to play the waiting game, and Mewtwo getting a new forme means that Game Freak is definitely going to cater to the previous generations.
In fact, with Newtwo, I wouldn't think about us only having one evolution so far - think of it as two Pokemon with ties to previous generations so far.
EDIT: I totally forgot Electivire when thinking of old gen Pokemon that got some new relatives.
Didn't know this, but apparently Corocoro is coming out on the 13th this month instead of the 15th because a Japanese holiday falls on the 15th. Pokejungle also posted some rumors that someone posted on 2ch, but they are rumors so yeah.
Those rumored pokémon actually sound very plausible, knowing GF designs.