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Pokémon XY General Discussion
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When was the resisted by fire "officially" revealed?
I believe it's Pokebeach, which isn't "official" per se, but because other rumors sourced from there have been confirmed as we've gotten more information, it's close enough to official to be assumed true at this point.
Oh...my apologies for not having paid attention to the update on Serebii's Friday post :/
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Other thing the games tend not to acknowledge is the fact 'Hitting itself in confusion' is a 40 BP typeless physical attack... or the fact typeless attacks (Pre-Gen V Future Sight and Doom Desire) exist at all
I remember that in Worms World Party there was a 'Wormaopedia' that gave players a concise explanation on how each weapon or utility worked, which was not done anywhere else. Something like that (Move/Ability behaviour, chances of happening, etc.) would totally work in Pokémon games. What about it being a gift for filling the National Pokédex?
I actually agree with a previous post that suggested a dual-type attack (used by Clauncher) affects an opponent Pokemon with the "part" of the attack that most affects it (either the water, or the charge for such an electric-water dual-type move) or both parts if the opponent pokemon takes neutral damage from either, but...
Just as @Siggu recognized that Pre-Gen V Future Sight and Doom Desire are Psychic and Steel (respectively) dealing typeless damaged (making them dual-type moves to some extent, but not in the same way being debated), the Gen VI suggested dual-type moves will not, by any way, have STAB factored into the final damage output...obviously not confirmed, but this is how I see the mechanics of such moves working.
Otherwise, it just gets messier than it already would be by this reasoning...hope this made sense...
Just as @Siggu recognized that Pre-Gen V Future Sight and Doom Desire are Psychic and Steel (respectively) dealing typeless damaged (making them dual-type moves to some extent, but not in the same way being debated), the Gen VI suggested dual-type moves will not, by any way, have STAB factored into the final damage output...obviously not confirmed, but this is how I see the mechanics of such moves working.
Otherwise, it just gets messier than it already would be by this reasoning...hope this made sense...
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Isn't that what Smogon's database is for? :p Jk I agree that it would be useful to have something accessible in-game, but I have doubts in its implementation for how large it may be (not necessarily regarding data consumption, but organization and location for access in-game). For instance, where would you put it so it looks cleanest? The menu screen? Relegated to a key item in your bag? The former is more likely, but just throwing options out there...
Well, that's pretty... dumb. Why have Glow Punch be a fire/psychic type attack that deals fighting damage if they're not going to get stab? In that case, they may as well give Fenniken aura-sphere , or some other new fighting attack, and call it a day. Dual-type attacks would be pointless otherwise.
This is my new jam.
And someone should Fairy Wind Exeggutor, just to make 100% sure
You are basically saying that dual type attacks have different type attack bonus (DTAB) which is possible, but unlikely. The reasoning is because the words "dual type" means two types not one type.
Your interpretation of dual type attack does involve two different types, however the key thing here is that not both types are doing damage, hence contradicting "dual type attack." For example, the argument: "Glow Punch being part Fire type because when Fire type Pokemon use it, it is stronger" is only "dual" for said Fire type Pokemon. If a Water type, for example, use Glow Punch, it's no longer is a dual type attack, see the problem here?
Psystrike/Psyshock are a different kind of mechanic that works universally with all Pokemon. It works similarly, no matter which Pokemon uses it, calculating the damage base on the user's SpA and the target's Def.
Dual type mechanic will probably be clear up next month, so we'll just have to wait and see.
Apparently so. It sounds just like the music that plays when fighting Professy in the demo. The other tracks that this person uploaded were also used in the demo
As to how they got the soundtrack, hackers will be hackers.
Ohh I like it. The beginning part freaked me out a little bit but I like it :D
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But I think you can hear it in some of the Official videos, if you want to be sure.
The attack is the move and there would be two types associated with it.
A dual-type Glow Punch would work exactly the same for all Pokemon.
If the user is Fire type it'd be boosted because the move would have an orange box with the word FIRE in it.
This is the way STAB has worked from the beginning and NOTHING would have changed.
Then every single Pokemon that uses it, without exception, would do Fighting type damage just as the desc. would say.
I'm just wondering if I'm not being clear about what I'm talking about.
Because I don't understand what part of that is so complicated.
Hidden Power and Curse are far more variable and they exist!
Also, I don't think it makes sense to over-analyse the term dual type attack because GF didn't come out and say it.
Somebody saw the game being played and reported that some attacks (moves!!) seem to have two types.
I would probably say the same thing if I saw a move declared as Fire type hitting Normal-type Pokemon SE while the type effectiveness chart hadn't changed.
Anyway, I agree that it doesn't make sense to go back and forth forever about a hypothesis.
(I do think your counterarguments are weak though :p I can accept that it might not turn out the way I think just not for the reasons you're advancing.)
We'll find out in a few months.
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The wild battle music that he uploaded came from a battle with a Pikachu. it has all the extra sound bits in it that normally occur during battle before the first move is selected.
And it sounds exactly like the music in the demo, soooooooo
We're not sure of either. Dual-type is an unsubstantiated rumor.
Sorry if this is out of context/wrong section,i just joined the forums,but i wondered what you thought about that picture with different graphics at the end of this
I hope its a Colosseum/XD sequel :)
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