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Discussion in 'Orange Islands' started by Stellar, May 10, 2013.
I'm guessing that it's a special normal type earthquake.
Reveal the starter evolutions already. You'd think that'd be one of the first things revealed yet theyve said nothing
Demo in English from Gamescom. Hope for a english demo available in the e-Shop?
no were never getting it equality doesnt exist for pokemon fans
So I'm gonna be super ignorant and not read the last 267 pages to see if my question has been answer.
A while back, just around when Fairy-type was revealed, a friend mentioned someone (English beta testers I thought?) leaking out info like Fairy-type, the typing of the starter evos, etc.
Would anyone mind giving me a full list of theses rumors so I can be brought up to speed?
Thank you, I appreciate it
sorry to break it to you guys, but that's not hydro pump. even with a neutral nature and 0 evs, a rain boosted crit hydro pump with stab and life orb will almost ALWAYS KO a neutral nature 0 ev sylveon. If the HP and spec. defense is 110 and 130, it will do about 102-121% damage. If the stats were reversed it's even worse: 107-126% roughly. So yeah, I think it was likely water gun or scald
It's clearly Water Gun. The anime taught me that Water Gun is a powerful move
You can hear the announcer in the background saying "Hydoro Pampu" im pretty sure its Hydro Pump.
It's not. Hydro pump should do waaaay more damage than the attack did.
It's possible, although extremely improbable given the math. A 0 IV/0 EV neutral nature Politoed with crit/rain/stab/LO boosted Hydro Pump does 53.4% - 63.1% to a 252 HP/252 SpD Calm Cresselia (which is a tiny bit bulkier (120HP/130SpD) than any potential Sylveon stat spread anyone has guessed for this).
The only way this could be possible is if that Politoed is built almost as bad as it could be and the Sylveon is built very close to as bulky as it can possibly be. It's quite a stretch, however not impossible.
Sylveon is HARD BODIED!
It was indeed Hydro Pump, you just don't want to believe Sylveon could be so GUD!
I think that it's more likely that someone misheard critical hit, because without the crit sylveon could easily live the hit and retaliate with draining kiss, making up for some of the difference. With leftovers it's a 3hko
I just gave you the math. I'm not sure why you're still speculating things.
So Sylveon's looking to have Base 95/X/X/110/130/X Stats now since it can take a Crit Rain Hydro Pump THAT well and still OHKO Salamence with Moon Blast. Either that or Moon Blast is insanely powerful to OHKO Mence from a Base 65 SpA Stat, which seems unlikely.
I'd also like to point out that Draining Kiss healing for the full amount of damage dealt seems to be confirmed since Sylveon was healed for far more than half the damage it did.
Because I decided to give politoed full evs and and perfect IVs too with a timid nature(what some people were speculating it being). I don't think it was a critical hit though. That's what separates my math from your math.
Assuming Sylveon has 110 Hp 130 SpD and maximum investment, and Politoed has no offensive investment, hydro pump should have dealt 70-82%. It clearly didn't. If Politoed had offensive investment, which is extremely likely, then the attack should have done more damage. This leaves a couple options (from least likely to most likely):
1 - Sylveon has higher single stats than the other eevelutions.
2 - The damage formula has been reworked. Highly unlikely, but would troll sooo many speculators.
3 - The damage boost from rain / life orb / critical hits has been nerfed.
4 - Sylveon has some ability we don't know about that makes it more tanky, but no ability bar popped out which makes me think not
5 - Sylveon is holding a new defensive item that reduces damage from crits or adds SpDef or something. This is my favorite option.
6 - It wasn't actually a crit. :(
Edit: Because draining kiss looked like it healed a roughly the same percentage of HP that it did in damage, I suspect Sylveon actually has 95 HP. This makes it unexpected survival even more mysterious.
It's not some big mystery that it crit, hell it's not even debatable. It's the Japanese language. Some people speak it.
Now a sensible thing might be that they lowered the crit damage output. It always has been one of the more obnoxious parts of the series, so Game Freak taking that into consideration when making X/Y isn't out of the question. It also wouldn't be the first time they nerfed something about crits.
couldn't sylveon have a higher stat total then 525
Every other Eevelution has a BST of 525, with the same 6 numbers shuffled into different stats. Why would they make Sylveon different than his brothers/sisters?
The only known ability sylveon has is cute charm. I think that number 3 is most likely. Rain being nerfed I mean. Not much else makes sense to me right now. Number 5 is also plausible, sort of like an item variation of lucky chant
I'm just trying to make sense of it
Perhaps they got tired of remixing the same stats?
It's also possible that they just made some changes to nerf rain.
uh because sylveon is like the king of the eeveeis
or certainly looks like more then just another eevee
-new eevees were introduced two at a time this eevee by itself
-fairy type which is a new type of which there has not been a new one in quite some time
so that is why sylveon is special and why it's stats could be higher then the other eevees. you never know.