Wait, wouldn't this mean that BD + E-Speed Ursaring is still legal?I've heard enough. Quick ban on Belly Drum for new users--old drummers are allowed. I'm tagging The Immortal so he knows for programming. Thanks all!
Wait, wouldn't this mean that BD + E-Speed Ursaring is still legal?I've heard enough. Quick ban on Belly Drum for new users--old drummers are allowed. I'm tagging The Immortal so he knows for programming. Thanks all!
And lickitung/licky and munch/snorlaxWait, wouldn't this mean that BD + E-Speed Ursaring is still legal?
We're still using current STABmons standards/bans with a few exceptions (noted in OP.)So Flygon can now use Dragon Dance, which is super neat. Most notable Dragon Dancer outside of Dragonite due to most of them being Ubers.
You forgot GarchompSo Flygon can now use Dragon Dance, which is super neat. Most notable Dragon Dancer outside of Dragonite due to most of them being Ubers.
Interesting. DD Garchomp is going to be pretty rad then (SubDD 2strong - watch out for Skarm tho). This also means there's now no reason to use DD Flygon, which makes Flygon a sad dragon.We're still using current STABmons standards/bans with a few exceptions (noted in OP.)
Garchomp is banned. I think tagging BKC cause dppInteresting. DD Garchomp is going to be pretty rad then (SubDD 2strong - watch out for Skarm tho). This also means there's now no reason to use DD Flygon, which makes Flygon a sad dragon.
no it isn'tGarchomp is banned. I think tagging BKC cause dpp
So I guess we are not using dpp bans??? Know what you post before you post.no it isn't
Read the OP of the thread fren. I thought Garchomp was banned too but we're not using DPP bans here.So I guess we are not using dpp bans??? Know what you post before you post.
Pin Missile was still piss weak in gen 4. Bug Bite is stronger than 4 hit Pin Missile.
Shift Gear and Gear Grind are from Gen V, so Scizor will not have the unmatched power that came along with that combination anymore. It still gets the fairly strong Pin Missile to abuse with Technician. The old mechanics of resisting Ghost and Dark might make up for the other losses, too.
I unbanned them because they were banned in Gen IV due to how they played in that gen alone, notwithstanding all the new strategies and threats that STABmons brings about. Certain things stayed banned like Shaymin-Sky for example because it has Spore, Serene Grace Air Slash and Seed Flare, with high Speed and Special Attack. With the powder mechanics absent in Gen IV, it's even deadlier than it would be in Gen VI. Box legendaries are just too powerful under any circumstances really.Voting is over lol
Also, keep gen IV ubers banned imo. Right now you're saying they shouldn't be banned because they're not banned in regular STABmons, which is basically like saying unban them now cause they aren't banned in gen VI.
But Blaziken loses Speed Boost so Infernape>BlazikenOne thing that I noticed is that Blaziken is allowed and it gets 2 great STABs in Close Combat and Sacred Fire. Not to mention that Fake Out + E-Speed Ambipom is a threat out of the leadoff position.
Dragmag says helloHonestly, this meta will be way more defensive than gen 5, and stall was definitely possibly in that meta. With the loss of things like shell smash and so on, it will be much easier to wall out potent threats, and stall them to death.