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[Postgame] X-Men Mafia

Discussion in 'Circus Maximus' started by matty, Sep 4, 2009.

  1. matty

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    Outlaw - 7/10
    Outlaw played well but because of the incompetence of the early Village leaders he got nixed for no reason. He hooked up with Gmax fairly quickly which gave him a BPV for a night I think (I can't remember, please remind me what power I gave you). He protected Gmax for the first two nights which was the right move.



    Kharozz - 4/10
    Didn't really contribute much this game. Hung out, voted correctly but never used his power. There really wasn't a good time (except maybe the Outlaw lynch) that would have been a good time to use it.



    Lesm46 - 7.5/10
    Lesm was one of the survivors and he played fairly well. When his ability activated (which was quiet late, Night 7), he killed a mafia and then later got Earthworm, the last mafia. Unfortunately, he lynched MS incorrectly, but in the end, it didn't matter. His score would have been higher had he not lynched MS hehe



    Pryomanic - 7/10
    He got solid Inspection results in. He targetted Outlaw, MS to clear them both (yet Outlaw still was lynched). He eventually found Sikh's role. Unfortunately, I didn't balanced his role correctly and probably should have made him a paranoid inspector. Oh well. Shit hapens



    KnightOftheWind - 8/10
    Knight fucked some shit up in the game. He first re-directed Jimbo off blue_light for the conversion (which would have failed anyone, but given Jimbo info) and instead made RB Golbat get recruited. He later got Sikh killed by a good re-direct. And he gave info to moi on a good re-direct. Now I'm not sure if he was doing this on purpose or just name claims, but whatever, he did pretty well for the village.


    Gmax - 8/10
    Gmax didn't idle at all (yeeee) and protected the village leader (Stallion) for most of the game. He connected up with Outlaw early on and made sure important roles stayed alive. Plus, I think he was pulling strings behind the scenes but I'm not sure. Not much to add.



    Bass - 6.5/10
    Not really sure how I should score this. Didn't hear much from Bass but he got succesful Watches for most of the Nights. He only hid once. Maybe you can shed more light on what was going on.



    Team Ather - 6.5/10
    When I first made this role, it was ridiculously good. Unfortunately, when I re-balanced it I went to the other end of the spectrum and made it ass. That sucks but oh well. Well you protected Stallion the entire game which was good I guess and you did take a bullet for him. Not sure what else you did. Yee?



    Porygon3 - 8.5/10
    Pory played well. He used his abilites at important times in the game, he was a survivor and I think he was fairly in the loop of what was going on. One of the better (best?) villagers.


    Stoo - 8/10
    Stoo played smartly with his inspection role. He quickly checked both leaders, found that blue_light was in fact a mole and then promtly died lol :(
    He even had a cool note written up in the instance that MS was mafia. Poor Stoo



    Accent - 8.5/10
    Accent (and the doucher -Zer0-) hit mafias and neutrals the entire game whether it be by luck or good info. What is surprising is that the hooker usually does nothing. Good play or dumb luck, you decide




    Earthworm - 8.5/10
    lol this role was actually intended to be the village leader. A BPV / Rogue mix that gave a certified killer. Pretty damn broken. Unfortunately, RB was converted by a re-direct from KnightOftheWind totally throwing off the entire balance of the game. Technically the role should have re-appeared two days later (when he was killed by Lesm), but for the sake of the game, I just cut it short. EW played super well. Thanks man for coming in. You had most of the village fooled. Even Lesm wasn't 100% sure if his kill was correct.



    MS - 6.5/10
    MS ran the village.............. into the ground almost. He made some good decisions (lynching mafias, seeing through blue_light's fake). What he failed at was getting way to much attention put on himself and making silly mistakes near the end. Atleast he was protected well in that he could keep leading. You also didn't send in questions which were a unique twist on the game. AND you ended up giving your syringe to Jedil, the wolf lol. Not the best play from the village leader.



    Rory - 5/10
    Rory played in the game because I basically forced him too. I'm glad you did. He didn't really do much but he did eventually find a killer with his powers. Next time I'd like to balance this role a different way. It's an interesting concept.


    blue_light - 7.5/10
    Blue_light immediatly tried to take control of the village. His fake was fairly good (though I always though of Whitequeen as a semi-villian but whatevs). Unfortunately, both Stoo and MS weren't having any of him. Stoo eventually inspecting him while b_l killed him. He did have a lot of info but the time he died, but by then his gig was up. I'm not sure why pookar wasn't allowed to try and mole seeing as I gave him a Mole ability.



    askaninjask - 8/10? Not a 100% sure on the score
    ask was a post restrictor. blue_light called me re-tarded for giving his team such awful roles. Whatever. The entension I had was to help false claims by silencing village leaders. It didn't work all the well. Life goes on. ask though was in contact with toothahce near the end of the game and he had gotten toothache to kill targets for him like he had planned, there was a good chance the brotherhood (or even the Sentinels for that matter) would have come out. You should talk more about your guys plans late in the game.



    Mingot / billymills - ??/10
    Not sure what score I should give you. You had kind of a shitty role (sorry about that). It was my understanding that billy played well though? Not sure.




    Sikh Assassin - 6.5/10
    Well you idled N1 (which is fine), but stole a BG N2 which was good and then you died. Pretty uneventful.



    Scrubs - 4/10
    Uhhh.... I'm going off of info Jimbo and blue_light said but you didn't play that well. You had a shaky first false claim, you didn't pass info well. And you died without Hooking anyone. Kinda weird tbh




    YoshiKing - 1/10
    You didn't do ANYTHING lol :( You didn't argue your lynch, you idled on N1. zzz




    Jimbo - 8/10
    Jimbo basically lead the Sentinels. He had my second favorite role. He played well but he's angry that I gave the Sentinels such a shitty Kidnapper role. Oh well lol :D



    Jedil - 5/10
    ArGGGGGGGGGGGGG Jedil. My favorite role in the entire game and something I plan on using in the future. So many possibilities to abuse the shit out of the Wolf. Unfortunately you didn't do much in my opinion to get targets onto you. The reason that I made the Village so overpowered was because of this one role. Well I fucking fail. Ah well.



    Toothache - 9.5/10
    Yep Tooth played well. He got some interesting kidnaps and he stayed alive despite a shaky false claim. And then he went on a rampage just killing and killing. Had he and Jedil ever met up during the game, it would have been game over. Tooth would have been able to target Jedil with a killing power just creating TWO killer wolves and shit would have hit the fan. Serenity and I decided to split them up at the beginning for balance issues. GG man. Your the MVP


    moi - 2/10 , Lightwolf - 7/10
    FAIL FAIL FAIL! An easy win condition that really didn't need that much work. He could have gotten into any of the factions, given info for kills, and ended the game quickly. Unfortunately, he played dumbly and had bad luck with other roles stopping him from inspecting. Lightwolf came in to salvage the game but by that time, there really wasn't much he could do. Thanks for the sub though Lightwolf.

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    Mafia Awards

    Best Killer - Toothache
    Although it took him awhile to get his kills, once he got it he made spot on kills removing most of the strong players out of the game. Nice job Tooth. You could have swung the game many different ways

    Serial Killer - Tootache
    3-4 on kills. Pretty good

    Most X-Men - Porygon3
    Serenity tells me Pory played really well (MS says he was pulling the strings though.... hmmm) Whatever, congrats Pory

    Most Valuable Sentinel - Jimbo
    Jimbo coordinated most of the Sentinels and Earthworm played well after his team was dispatched. Both of them played well.

    Most Valuable Brotherhood Mutant - pookar
    Pookar has been awarded the best Brotherhood. He was doing stuff I was unaware of but Serenity let me know what was up. GJ

    Most Valuable Neutral - Tootache
    Tooth dominated and got the win. Easy choice.

    Most Valuable Overall - Toothache
    By the end, he was just picking targets off and had the game in the bag. He also didn't help the Brotherhood which is kinda funny considering that they needed him for the win.

    Worse Player X-Men - Rory
    Yep...


    Worse Player Mafia(s) - YoshiKing
    Not really bothering to defend yourself and then idling on the one day you could have done something. Ya, not well played, but your cat died so I guess its ok :\

    Best sub(s) - billymills / macle / Earthworm / Light Wolf
    Thank you for subbing in, we appreciate it very much. (:

    Best Newcomer - N/A
    Ya... none of em played all that well


    Best Fake PM - pookar
    Apparently pookar claimed he had the best one, alright :)

    Worse Fake PM - Scrubs???
    Jimbo said that Scrubs had a fairly mediocre one. Not sure again


    Thanks guys for playing. Hope you all had a good time. Look for another mafia game hosted by RB Golbat and myself in awhile. It's an interesting theme. I'm Co-Writing it and he is going to host it most likely.
  2. Outlaw

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    I hardly remember what power because you never PMed us with it. But I am pretty sure it was a one time bpv.
  3. Accent

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    EXPERT play, you mean.


    (just kidding, mainly good info as I wasn't able to use IRC for most of the game - thanks to Lesm, and MS somewhat).
  4. blue_light

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    BTW, Stallion the next time you plan to update the host with your list of mafia suspects and general info, make sure you send it to the hosts matty and serenity not matty and blue_light.
  5. Stoo

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    blue light please shut the fuck up, the village you moled was hardly the best and you are persistently being a dick about it

    this isnt the first time someone has moled a village and you didnt even win so again

    please shut the fuck up


    on a related note i enjoyed this game while i was alive but there wasnt a whole lot i could do to prevent my death :(
  6. moi

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    matty i did not play dumbly... it is your fault for fucking blocking my inspections like 5 times :(. instead i was the one who influenced previous users to get lynched that would've worked to my advantage. instead rev told me late that fucking outlaw didn't count because it didn't hit him even though he was a target.

    instead, sorry og, but there is no way that he should've gotten a higher mark for being incompetent to come out cleanly, instead raising suspision about himself lol
  7. blue_light

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    Lol, I'm being a dick, I have not been a dick at all I was just informing Stallion of his mistake. I have not been an ass to anyone who did not ask for it by prodding me first.
  8. Outlaw

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    Iirc, I had showed my role pm to stallion and gmax by night 2. I blame stallion.
  9. Jimbo

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    The only reason I would say Scrubs didn't play awesomely was because he got flustered. I was going to have him clame a power absorber (Leech) who cancels all mutant powers one night only (or something like that) -- we could've gotten around it by saying "sentinels aren't mutants" for why we still killed someone. Anyway, I never actually saw Scrubs' fake pm so I can't judge!

    I thought this game was a lot of fun. I obviously would've enjoyed it more if we would've won ;D Our team (and the brotherhood) seemed really weak compared to the monstrous village though. We couldn't use the kidnapping at all because I couldn't kill with someone kidnapped and once we released them, they'd know who kidnapped them :X I would've rather it've been either a permanent kidnap until I got killed or just a normal kidnap role. Also recruitment should not be re-directable >:((( (Not to say Earthworm/RB weren't great teammates, but I would've rather hit someone like Toothache or Lesm with actual good roles lol)
  10. matty

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    Ya. The village was extremely overpowered and the kidnapper thing was dumb. Even the post restrictor was weak. It was still a close game though.
  11. Team Aether

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    Who killed me?
  12. Stallion

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    Mmm 6.5 sounds about right, but matty you haven't realised that almost ALL the villagers early actions until outlaws lynching (eg kotw redirecting jimbo and redirecting a kill into Sikh were both my orders, thanks for trusting me btw dude :D) was on my instruction, so give me some credit there at least.

    I played pretty stupidly at times though (fucking moi -_-, by the time I tried to save Outlaw it was too late) although my question asking ability was only useful for priorities etc. Anyway thanks for hosting guys :)
  13. Accent

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    Yeah, I forgot to say, thanks for hosting, it was a cool game :)
  14. Team Aether

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    Ditto.
  15. Scrubs

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    I made that fake in literally 10 minutes. I had a lot going on as I told jimbo. Great game you had there matty
  16. askaninjask

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    I led the Brotherhood after blue_light died, with ideas and help from billymills. Our (actually Sikh Assassin's) idea was to have both me and toothache target Lesm46, since Lesm46 would be silenced and i would persuade him to talk, killing him and activating my special powers. Unfortunately, Toothache was an Unfriendly Ulric, and not ONCE did he listen to what we told him to do. He killed people we didn't tell him to, even after we provided him with all of the knowledge he needed to destroy the village with us. I guess he wanted another boring village win.

    anyway my fake:
    I guess it didn't even matter since i was inspected n1 by moi, but was never lynched for it. The village didn't totally trust moi anyway after the Outlaw lynch, so I guess that worked in our favor.

    ALSO, I would totally give the prize for best Brotherhood member to blue_light. He got us complete spreadsheet, even though he did get lynched early, he paved the way to a brotherhood win. A mix of Sikh getting killed at night and Toothache's unwillingness to let us win, or even tell us his real win condition, brought us down. It was a very close game.

    I'm also kinda proud of myself for the jimbo lynch, even if it was detrimental to our team. :D
  17. Bass

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    Well, with the chaotic village leadership and the bad lynches, I had a difficult time trusting anyone so I kept most of the info that I gained to myself. I instinctively chose not to trust blue_light from the beginning, even when he demanded me to claim to him, and I feel quite fortunate that I was one of the few who didn't. I eventually trusted Stallion enough to tell him that I was a tracker (as well as some of my results). I also told Lesm and billymills to an extent, but I kept my Hide Out ability a secret from them. On the day billy interrogated me, I decided to hide out anticipating that billy would kill me, but unfortunately I mistimed it and was killed the following night.

    And I really don't understand how Toothache remained alive for so long. His fake claim wasn't merely "shaky". It was downright terrible, but the shaky village leadership along with his neutrality seemed to be the real reason for his survival, IMO.
  18. Team Aether

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    How many people didn't claim to blue_light? I know that I wasn't one of them, but Stallion must have told him, as I was on the list that b_l posted once he was found out.
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    I didn't claim to blue_light, but then Stallion told him :/
  20. Yoshi King

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    Sorry that I didn't argue my lynch because I was upset over my cat dying? Fucking christ.

    I idled Night 1 because I had no clue who to kidnap... if blue_light had been lynched sooner I would've had that nice list he left for the remaining mafia, and would have kidnapped the BG. I specifically said in my "Night 1- idling" PM that I had no leads on whom to kidnap, as I wanted to nail a useful role.

    I'm not going to argue that yeah, I didn't do spectacularly, but I chose a good role (Havoc, brother to Cyclops and one of the current X-men) to fake claim when being interrogated by blue_light and did all I could within the 2 cycles that I was alive.
  21. billymills

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    I didn't play all that well, for reasons outside my control, everyone knew I was mafia. I just had to accept that, and try to manipulate them regardless of that fact.

    I 'trusted' toothache. I completely forgot that his win condition required him only to kill 3 people, I thought he was a full wolf. Had I remembered, I would not have called off the lynch on him (However, it appears I had very little to do with that anyway).

    Other than that, I think lesm46 should receive BONUS POINTS for lynching stallion, and still winning. Stallion clearly did not know what he was doing, lesm46 did the RIGHT thing there.
  22. Team Aether

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    No one has explained who killed me yet. D:<
  23. billymills

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    Holy shit, how could you possibly have gotten a WORSE name.
  24. LonelyNess

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    Where is the award for worst midgame namechange? It would go to Team Aether for sure.
  25. pookar

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    why am i not here

    I had the greatest fake role pm, i tricked 3 village leaders without them knowing, I got earthworm lynched in the last night. My only fuck up was speaking to fucking toothache. fucknig toothache

    EDIT: I was also unable to mole, because the village inspector(s) were dead and captured I moled MS and lesm good enough because they both believed my pm

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