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Qwilfish

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by R Inanimate, Mar 5, 2012.

  1. R Inanimate

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    [Overview]

    <p>With plenty of swift swimming fish in the sea, Qwilfish doesn't do too much to stand out above the waves. While it has a relatively unique Water / Poison typing, it is weighed down by a shallow movepool and mediocre base stats. Qwilfish is the only Swift Swim Pokemon able to use Explosion, but due to the changes to Explosion in BW, it isn't nearly as potent as it once was. However, if you need a Swift Swim Pokemon that can handle Ludicolo and Abomasnow, you might want to give Qwilfish a try.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Waterfall
    move 2: Poison Jab
    move 3: Explosion
    move 4: Protect
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Adamant
    ability: Swift Swim
    evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Waterfall and Poison Jab are Qwilfish's main STAB moves. Waterfall hits hard in the rain and can potentially flinch the opposing Pokemon. Poison Jab provides decent coverage with Waterfall, OHKOing Ludicolo or Abomasnow, provided they don't hold a Focus Sash. Explosion, though nerfed, can still deal considerable damage to the opponent and acts as a last ditch effort when faced with a poor match up. Lastly, Protect rounds the moveset off, allowing Qwilfish to block and scout oncoming attacks.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The given EVs max out Qwilfish's Speed and Attack in order to hit as hard and fast as possible. Although holding a Life Orb is preferred, holding a damage-boosting Gem, a Focus Sash, or a Choice Band is also viable.</p>

    <p>Qwilfish is quite reliant on the rain, which naturally makes Politoed its most important ally, providing rain with Drizzle. Manual weather users, such as Thundurus, can also help set up Qwilfish for sweeping. To take greater advantage of the rain, Swift Swim Pokemon, such as Ludicolo and Kingdra, or Dragon-type Pokemon, such as Latios and Hydreigon, make effective partners. The former can keep up offensive pressure against the opponent, while the latter are able to switch in on attacks super effective on Qwilfish. Pokemon with Lightningrod, such as Manectric and Seaking, can also work with Qwilfish, redirecting away harmful Electric-type moves.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Qwilfish's Dream World ability is Intimidate. While it is a good support ability, the loss of Swift Swim can be crippling. Aqua Tail can be used over Waterfall, but the added power is often not worth giving up accuracy and the chance to flinch the opponent for Qwilfish. Thunder Wave and Taunt allow Qwilfish to play a bit of a support role on a team, paralyzing opponents or stopping moves such as Trick Room. Acid Spray is another intersting option, allowing Qwilfish to set an opponent up to be taken out by special attacks. Aqua Jet provides Qwilfish with a priority option, though it should be the fastest on the field if it is raining anyway. Lastly, Destiny Bond can be used over Explosion as a situational way to KO an opponent.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Removing the rain or setting up Trick Room will quickly put Qwilfish out of its element, making it easy pickings for just about any special sweeper. Otherwise, Pokemon such as Jellicent, Empoleon, Gastrodon, and Toxicroak can easily shrug off Qwilfish's STAB moves, though the latter two need to watch out for Explosion.</p>
  2. The Knights of Wario Land

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    Aqua Tail can be recommended in OO, it's got less accuracy but is a bit more powerful and I feel is good enough to be mentioned.

    Lightningrod users can re recommended too, less weaknesses to the poor puffer the better.
  3. R Inanimate

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    Oh right, forgot to add Aqua Tail in OO after taking it off the set.
    Lightningrod has a bit of a problem in that you pile up on ground weakness unless you run with Seaking or Marowak. I'll still mention it though.
  4. Lucien Lachance

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    From testing Qwilfish extensively on Team SwagBro, it makes an excellent Rain Dance setter. Focus Sash is also great on Qwilfish so it can always get the Explosion off.
  5. R Inanimate

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    It's explosion becomes a little lacking without any boosting to it, but Focus Sash is still good for Qwilfish due to its lower survival. Added in to OO along with Rain Dance.

    EDIT: moved Focus Sash into AC
  6. Lucien Lachance

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    Sash should be higher up IMO. It lets it 2HKO Latios and other fast threats. Qwilfish hits so hard in Rain it's amazing.
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    Amateur GP check. Take whatever you think is useful from it.
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    [Overview]

    <p>With plenty of swift swimming fish in the sea, Qwilfish doesn't do too much to stand out above the waves. While it has a relatively unique Water/Poison Water / Poison typing, it is weighed down by a shallow movepool, (remove comma) and its mediocre base stats, with only 95 Base Attack as its highest stat. Qwilfish has the unique ability of being is the only Swift Swim Pokemon able to use Explosion, but due to the changes to Explosion in BW, it isn't nearly as potent as it once was. If However/That being said, if you need a Swift Swim Pokemon that can handle Ludicolo and Abomasnows Abomasnow, you may want to give Qwilfish a try.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Waterfall
    move 2: Poison Jab
    move 3: Explosion
    move 4: Protect
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Adamant
    ability: Swift Swim
    evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Waterfall and Poison Jab are Qwilfish's main STAB moves. Waterfall hits hard when in the rain while and can potentially flinching flinch the opposing Pokemon. Poison Jab provides decent coverage with Waterfall, outrinning and OHKOing Ludicolo or Abomasnows and Abomasnow, provided they don't hold a Focus Sash. Explosion, though nerfed, can still deal considerable damage to the opponent, (remove comma) and acts as a last ditch effort when faced with a poor match up. Lastly, Protect rounds the moveset off, allowing Qwilfish to block and scout oncoming attacks.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The given EVs are focused to max out Qwilfish's Speed and Attack in order to hit as hard and fast as possible. Although holding a Life Orb is perferred preferred, holding a type-boosting Gem, a Focus Sashe Sash, or a Choice Band are is also acceptable viable.</p>

    <p>Qwilfish is quite reliant on the rain, which naturally makes Politoed its biggest most important ally, providing rain by with Drizzle. Manual weather users, such as Thundurus, can also help in setting up set up Qwilfish for sweeping. When set up with To take greater advantage of the rain, Swift Swim Pokemon, such as Ludicolo and Kingdra, or Dragon-type Pokemon, such as Latios and Hydreigon, make effective partners. The former by keeping can keep up offensive pressure against the opponent, while the latter are able to switch in on attacks super effective on Qwilfish.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Qwilfish's Dream World ability is Intimidate. While it is a good support ability, the loss of Swift Swim can be crippling. Thunder Wave and Taunt allow Qwilfish to play a bit of a support role on a team, paralyzing opponents, (remove comma) or stopping moves such as Trick Room, respectively. Acid Spray is another intersting option, allowing Qwilfish to set an opponent up to be taken out by special attacks. Aqua Jet provides Qwilfish with a priority option, though it should be the fastest on the field if it is raining anyway. Lastly, Destiny Bond can be used over Explosion as a situational way to KO an opponent.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Removing the rain or setting up Trick Room will quickly put Qwilfish out of its element, making it easy picking pickings for just about any special sweeper. Otherwise, Pokemon such as Jellicent, Empoleon, Gastrodon, and Toxicroak can easily shrug off Qwilfish's STAB moves, though the last latter two mentioned may need to watch out for Explosions Explosion.</p>


    Also, I know The Knight of Wario Land and your posts were from back in March, but you mentioned that you were going to include Aqua Tail in OO and mention Lightningrod partners somewhere. I'm not sure if you still plan to (and its certainly possible that something in the time since then has shown they're not worth mentioning), but they're not in there now.
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  11. R Inanimate

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    Changes made.

    I probably have overlooked that, writing things up from old notes. I'll add those back in.

    Added lines:

    end of AC:
    "Pokemon with Lightningrod, such as Manectric and Seaking, can also work with Qwilfish, redirecting away harmful Electric-type moves, but can be difficult to make work as neither of the Pokemon are paticularly durable."

    After mentioning Intimidate:
    "Waterfall, but the added power is often not worth giving up accuracy and the chance to flinch the opponent for Qwilfish."
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    <p>With plenty of swift swimming fish in the sea, Qwilfish doesn't do too much to stand out above the waves. While it has a relatively unique Water / Poison typing, it is weighed down by a shallow movepool and mediocre base stats. Qwilfish is the only Swift Swim Pokemon able to use Explosion, but due to the changes to Explosion in BW, it isn't nearly as potent as it once was. However, if you need a Swift Swim Pokemon that can handle Ludicolo and Abomasnow, you might may want to give Qwilfish a try.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Waterfall
    move 2: Poison Jab
    move 3: Explosion
    move 4: Protect
    item: Life Orb
    nature: Adamant
    ability: Swift Swim
    evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Waterfall and Poison Jab are Qwilfish's main STAB moves. Waterfall hits hard in the rain and can potentially flinch the opposing Pokemon. Poison Jab provides decent coverage with Waterfall, OHKOing Ludicolo or Abomasnow, provided they don't hold a Focus Sash. Explosion, though nerfed, can still deal considerable damage to the opponent and acts as a last ditch effort when faced with a poor match up. Lastly, Protect rounds the moveset off, allowing Qwilfish to block and scout oncoming attacks.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The given EVs max out Qwilfish's Speed and Attack in order to hit as hard and fast as possible. Although holding a Life Orb is preferred, holding a damage-boosting Gem, a Focus Sash, or a Choice Band is also viable.</p>

    <p>Qwilfish is quite reliant on the rain, which naturally makes Politoed its most important ally, providing rain with Drizzle. Manual weather users, such as Thundurus, can also help set up Qwilfish for sweeping. To take greater advantage of the rain, Swift Swim Pokemon, such as Ludicolo and Kingdra, or Dragon-type Pokemon, such as Latios and Hydreigon, make effective partners. The former can keep up offensive pressure against the opponent, while the latter are able to switch in on attacks super effective on Qwilfish. Pokemon with Lightningrod, such as Manectric and Seaking, can also work with Qwilfish, redirecting away harmful Electric-type moves, but can be difficult to make work as neither of the Pokemon are paticularly durable.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Qwilfish's Dream World ability is Intimidate. While it is a good support ability, the loss of Swift Swim can be crippling. Aqua Tail can be used over Waterfall, but the added power is often not worth giving up accuracy and the chance to flinch the opponent for Qwilfish. Thunder Wave and Taunt allow Qwilfish to play a bit of a support role on a team, paralyzing opponents or stopping moves such as Trick Room. Acid Spray is another intersting option, allowing Qwilfish to set an opponent up to be taken out by special attacks. Aqua Jet provides Qwilfish with a priority option, though it should be the fastest on the field if it is raining anyway. Lastly, Destiny Bond can be used over Explosion as a situational way to KO an opponent.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Removing the rain or setting up Trick Room will quickly put Qwilfish out of its element, making it easy pickings for just about any special sweeper. Otherwise, Pokemon such as Jellicent, Empoleon, Gastrodon, and Toxicroak can easily shrug off Qwilfish's STAB moves, though the latter two need to watch out for Explosion.</p>


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  13. R Inanimate

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    GP finished, ready for upload.

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