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Raichu[GP 2/2]

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by Kingler12345, Oct 23, 2013.

  1. Kingler12345

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    Unfortunately i don't have much time but i'll do this quick =)
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    [Overview]


    <p>Raichu will never achieve stardom in NU, but it is still a decent special sweeper with an intriguing niche. It sits at a great Speed tier that allows it to outspeed non-Choice Scarf Haunter and Sawsbuck and tie with Charizard. Encore combined with Nasty Plot means it can force switches, disrupt the opposition, and sweep. Its ability Lightningrod allows it to nab Special Attack boosts, and Raichu can use that in conjunction with Encore to potentially lock the opposing Pokemon into an Electric-type attack, giving it a further boost, as well as even more opportunities to set up. However, keep in mind that it will be walled depending on its moves and that it is easily revenge killed, so don't expect it to sweep teams consistently.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Encore + Nasty Plot
    move 1: Encore
    move 2: Nasty Plot
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Grass Knot
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Lightningrod
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>What separates this set from those of other users of Nasty Plot, such as Shiftry and Simipour, is Encore. If used on a non-damaging move, Encore gives the opponent a choice: stay in, and be forced to repeat the same move,or switch. In either situation, Raichu is able to set up a Nasty Plot. At +2 and factoring in STAB, Thunderbolt will severely maim anything that does not either resist it or have absurdly high Special Defense. In the last slot, Grass Knot is used to hurt NU's many Ground-types, such as Golurk and Piloswine.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>In the fourth slot, Hidden Power Ice is a lesser option to hit Grass- and Dragon-types for super effective damage, but it's awfully weak even after a Nasty Plot boost, provides little additional coverage, and many of NU's Ground-types do not take super effective damage from it, notably Seismitoad and Piloswine. Focus Blast can be used to hit many of the bulky Normal-type Pokemon, such as Lickilicky and Audino, but using it means Raichu is totally helpless against Golurk, the most popular Pokemon in the tier, making it an inferior option. A physically offensive Fighting-type such as Choice Band Sawk is a decent partner, as its STAB Close Combat can eliminate the special walls of NU (most are weak to Fighting-type moves). Water-types such as Samurott and Seismitoad are also good partners as the former can lure in Electric-type attacks for Raichu while the latter can set up Stealth Rock for it, and both of them can break through Ground-types easily. Another good partner for Raichu is Charizard; it easily handles the Grass-types that wall Raichu with its STAB moves, as well as being immune to Ground-type moves, while Raichu can gain a Lightningrod boost from Electric-type attacks aimed at Charizard.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Choice Specs and Choice Scarf seem to be good options thanks to Raichu's decent Special Attack and great Speed. However, Choice Scarf loses out on Nasty Plot and Life Orb, thus missing out on a great deal of power, while Choice Specs is largely outclassed by the Encore and Nasty Plot combination. Raichu has an interesting supporting movepool, but due to its frailty, it cannot afford to run Knock Off, Toxic, or Thunder Wave. Volt Switch can be used to good effect in conjunction with Encore, but Raichu would rather use the opportunity to set up and sweep. While ExtremeSpeed and Volt Tackle are two exciting options that you might want to run, they are illegal with each other and specially attacking Raichu is generally better due to access to Nasty Plot and the ability to utilize Lightningrod. Hidden Power Grass can hit lighter threats for more damage than Grass Knot, but it's generally not worth the loss of power on the heavier threats. Lastly, as tempting as Surf may seem, it is illegal in BW2.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>As mentioned before, specially defensive Grass-types, such as Vileplume, Exeggutor, and Roselia, can switch in and either attack or set up hazards. Special walls, such as Bastiodon, Audino, Munchlax, Regice, Lickilicky, and Probopass, can wall Raichu, but must be wary of the rare Focus Blast. Ground-types are generally a safe bet in taking down Raichu, but they must watch out for Grass Knot. Interestingly, Gardevoir can Trace Raichu's Lightningrod ability and gain an Electric immunity, making it a solid check. Finally, physical Choice Scarf users or Pokemon with physical priority, such as Primeape, are able to outspeed Raichu and promptly take it down.</p>
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  2. scorpdestroyer

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    I think you should mention that Encore also allows Raichu to lock opponents into Electric-type moves, providing a possible +2 boost for free (+1 when it switches in, +1 after Encore), allowing it to fire off a powerful move on the switch or set up to +4
  3. Kingler12345

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    I already have. Please do mention if it's not clear nuff. Also, does lightningrod stack or just work once and do nothing after that?
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    It stacks
    and pardon me, I did not see :3
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    Yeah added and ready for qc checks.
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    [Overview]
    • Looks good, but the second sentence uses some awkward wording. Might want to change that up for GP's sake :)
    [SET]
    • Focus Blast should probably be in AC, since getting completely walled by Golurk (aka the most common mon in the meta) is really bad. A +2 T-bolt seriously hurts most special walls after rocks anyway so imo it's unnecessary.
    [SET COMMENTS]
    • Don't say it's walled by specially bulky Grasses "if it's running Grass Knot," since it's pretty much walled by stuff like Roselia, Vileplume, and Eggy no matter what it uses.
    • Also move all mentions of Focus Blast to AC.
    [Other Options]
    • Don't say Scarf Raichu loses power because it has to run Timid, since just about every Scarfer runs +Spe natures. Just say it loses power due to the lack of NP and LO.
    Implement Kingler12345 , and I'll check back later.
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    Since Grass Knot is the only option now, remove the bolded part.

    Again, reword it so that Focus Blast isn't treated as a main option.

    QC Approved 3/3
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    [Overview]

    <p>Raichu will never achieve superstardom in NU, but it is still a decent special sweeper with an intriguing niche. In addition, i It sits at a great Speed tier that allows it to outspeed non-Choice Scarf Haunter and Jynx and Speed tie with Charizard. Encore combined with Nasty Plot means it can force switches, disrupt the opposition, and sweep. Its ability Lightningrod allows it to nab Special Attack boosts, and Raichu can use that in conjunction with Encore to potentially lock the opposing Pokemon into an Electric-type attack, giving it a further boost, as well as even more opportunities to set up. However, keep in mind that it will be walled depending on its moves and that it is easily revenge killed.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Encore + Nasty Plot
    move 1: Encore
    move 2: Nasty Plot
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Grass Knot
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Lightningrod
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>What separates this sets from other users of Nasty Plot such as Jynx, Shiftry, or and Simipour is Raichu's Encore. If used on a non-damaging move, Encore gives the opponent a choice: stay in and be forced to repeat the same move or switch. In either situation, Raichu is able to set up a Nasty Plot. At +2 and factoring in STAB, Thunderbolt will severely maim anything except resisting Pokemon or those with absurdly high Special Defense. In the last slot, Grass Knot is used to hurt NU's many Ground-types such as Golurk and Piloswine.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>In the fourth slot, Hidden Power Ice is a lesser option to super-effectively hit Grass- and Dragon-types for super effective damage, but it's awfully weak even after a Nasty Plot boost and provides little additional coverage. In addition,(AC) many of NU's Ground-types, such as Seismitoad and Piloswine, do not take super-(hyphen)effective damage from Hidden Power Ice. [A physically offensive Fighting-type such as Choice Band Sawk is a decent partner, as its STAB Close Combat can eliminate the special walls of NU (most are weak to Fighting-type moves).] <- move this Focus Blast can be used to hit many of the bulky Normal-type Pokemon such as Lickilicky and Audino, but misses out on Golurk, the most popular Pokemon in the tier, making it an inferior option. to here Water-types such as Samurott and Seismitoad make for good partners as the former can lure in Electric-type attacks for Raichu while the latter can set up Stealth Rock for it, and both of them can break through Ground-types easily. Another good partner for Raichu is Charizard; it easily handles the Grass-types that wall Raichu with its STABs, as well as being immune to Ground-type moves, while Raichu can gain a Lightningrod boost from Electric-type attacks aimed at Charizard.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Choice Specs and Choice Scarf seem good thanks to Raichu's decent Special Attack and great Speed. However, Choice Scarf loses out on Nasty Plot and Life Orb, thus missing out on a great deal of power, while Choice Specs is largely outclassed by the Encore + and Nasty Plot combination. Raichu has an interesting supportive movepool, but due to its frailty, it cannot afford to run Knock Off, Toxic, or Thunder Wave. Volt Switch can be used to good effect in conjunction with Encore, but Raichu would rather use the opportunity to set up and sweep. While ExtremeSpeed and Volt Tackle are two exciting options that you might want to run, they are illegal with each other and specially attacking Raichu is generally better due to access to Nasty Plot and the ability to utilize Lightningrod. Hidden Power Grass can hit lighter threats for more damage than Grass Knot, but it's generally not worth the loss of power. Lastly, as tempting as Surf may seem, it is illegal in BW2.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>As mentioned before, specially defensive Grass-types, such as Vileplume, Exeggutor, and Roselia, can switch in and either attack or set up hazards. Special walls, such as Bastiodon, Audino, Munchlax, Regice, Lickilicky, and Probopass, can wall Raichu, but must beware wary of the rare Focus Blast. Ground-types are generally a safe bet in taking down Raichu, but they must beware wary of Grass Knot. Interestingly, Gardevoir can Trace Raichu's Lightningrod ability and gain an Electric immunity, making it a solid check. Finally, physical Choice Scarf users or Pokemon with physical priority, such as Primeape, are able to outspeed Raichu and promptly take it down.</p>


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    So as far as I could tell the last gp check was implemented? Well anyway

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    [Overview]


    <p>Raichu will never achieve stardom in NU, but it is still a decent special sweeper with an intriguing niche. It sits at a great Speed tier that allows it to outspeed non-Choice Scarf Haunter and Jynx and Speed tie with Charizard. Encore combined with Nasty Plot means it can force switches, disrupt the opposition, and sweep. Its ability Lightningrod allows it to nab Special Attack boosts, and Raichu can use that in conjunction with Encore to potentially lock the opposing Pokemon into an Electric-type attack, giving it a further boost, as well as even more opportunities to set up. However, keep in mind that it will be walled depending on its moves and that it is easily revenge killed, so don't expect it to sweep teams consistently.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Encore + Nasty Plot
    move 1: Encore
    move 2: Nasty Plot
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Grass Knot
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Lightningrod
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>What separates this sets set from those of other users of Nasty Plot,(comma) such as Jynx, Shiftry, and Simipour,(comma) is Encore. If used on a non-damaging move, Encore gives the opponent a choice: stay in,(comma) and be forced to repeat the same move,(comma) or switch. In either situation, Raichu is able to set up a Nasty Plot. At +2 and factoring in STAB, Thunderbolt will severely maim anything except resisting Pokemon that does not either resist it or those with have absurdly high Special Defense. In the last slot, Grass Knot is used to hurt NU's many Ground-types,(comma) such as Golurk and Piloswine.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>In the fourth slot, Hidden Power Ice is a lesser option to hit Grass- and Dragon-types for super effective damage, but it's awfully weak even after a Nasty Plot boost,(comma) and provides little additional coverage,(comma) and . In addition, many of NU's Ground-types,(remove) such as Seismitoad and Piloswine, do not take super effective damage from Hidden Power Ice it, notably Seismitoad and Piloswine. Focus Blast can be used to hit many of the bulky Normal-type Pokemon,(comma) such as Lickilicky and Audino, but misses out on using it means Raichu is totally helpless against Golurk, the most popular Pokemon in the tier, making it an inferior option. A physically offensive Fighting-type such as Choice Band Sawk is a decent partner, as its STAB Close Combat can eliminate the special walls of NU (most are weak to Fighting-type moves). Water-types such as Samurott and Seismitoad are also make for good partners as the former can lure in Electric-type attacks for Raichu while the latter can set up Stealth Rock for it, and both of them can break through Ground-types easily. Another good partner for Raichu is Charizard; it easily handles the Grass-types that wall Raichu with its STABs STAB moves, as well as being immune to Ground-type moves, while Raichu can gain a Lightningrod boost from Electric-type attacks aimed at Charizard.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Choice Specs and Choice Scarf seem to be good options thanks to Raichu's decent Special Attack and great Speed. However, Choice Scarf loses out on Nasty Plot and Life Orb, thus missing out on a great deal of power, while Choice Specs is largely outclassed by the Encore and Nasty Plot combination. Raichu has an interesting supportive supporting movepool [the support moves complement the attacking moves, they do not cheer them up when they're feeling depressed - just in case you weren't clear on the difference, it is a bit nebulous I know], but due to its frailty, it cannot afford to run Knock Off, Toxic, or Thunder Wave. Volt Switch can be used to good effect in conjunction with Encore, but Raichu would rather use the opportunity to set up and sweep. While ExtremeSpeed and Volt Tackle are two exciting options that you might want to run, they are illegal with each other and specially attacking Raichu is generally better due to access to Nasty Plot and the ability to utilize Lightningrod. Hidden Power Grass can hit lighter threats for more damage than Grass Knot, but it's generally not worth the loss of power on the heavier threats. Lastly, as tempting as Surf may seem, it is illegal in BW2.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>As mentioned before, specially defensive Grass-types, such as Vileplume, Exeggutor, and Roselia, can switch in and either attack or set up hazards. Special walls, such as Bastiodon, Audino, Munchlax, Regice, Lickilicky, and Probopass, can wall Raichu, but must be wary of the rare Focus Blast. Ground-types are generally a safe bet in taking down Raichu, but they must be wary of watch out for Grass Knot [don't like repeated phrases, feel free to change it for another if you'd like]. Interestingly, Gardevoir can Trace Raichu's Lightningrod ability and gain an Electric immunity, making it a solid check. Finally, physical Choice Scarf users or Pokemon with physical priority, such as Primeape, are able to outspeed Raichu and promptly take it down.</p>


    As a note, the overview seemed to have some weird prosaic choices, but I left them alone because I couldn't find a way to change them without totally altering your writing style. I will say that you do seem to be overstating what Raichu can do a tad, but hey I don't play NU so what do I know

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