Raticate (Update) (QC 3/3) (GP 2/2)

[Raseri]

However, Raticate should really be used Zangoose and Swellow due to its higher Speed over the former and Stealth Rock weakness over the latter; otherwise, your better using the former two instead.

that is really awkward sounding, you're missing some words in there. And even when it's corrected, it just doesn't sound right.



There are still A LOT of missing words and grammatical issues with this, i'm afraid to send this off to GP still, because the work just kind of seems sloppy in some parts.

Bulky Rock-types such as Regirock and Golem make excellent counters to Raticate, as they apart from a the rare low health Reversal, they fear absolutely nothing from Raticate and can OHKO it with Stone Edge

The information is there, it's just the writing itself isn't particularly clear at times. This probably needs a lot of time to get up to par with the other analyses on site, so if you're up for that, I'm fine with letting you keep this and work on it. Having a GP member work with you would be great! If not, someone else will have to push this through.

 

[Magcargo]

Alright, I'll have a GP member help me get this analysis with similar quality with those on site.

 

[GatoDelFuego]

The Loser Of RU

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[Overview]

<p>Raticate is one of many terrible Pokemon doomed to obscurity in NU. Due to its terrible 55 / 60 / 70 Defenses, Raticate will often be hard-pressed to find a chance to switch in. Raticate has an amazing ability in the ability in Guts, but unfortunately, (RC) Raticate is outclassed by nearly every Guts Pokemon in the tier, as most of them are either faster, more powerful, (AC) or bulkier than Raticate. To make matters worse, Raticate has a barren physical movepool, making it relatively easy to wall.</p>

<p>Despite these flaws, Raticate still has several traits making it worth using in the NU metagame. Its base 97 Speed is a blessing in the current metagame, as it allows Raticate to outpace common Pokemon such as Jynx and Haunter. Raticate is the only Guts abuser who that has access to Sucker Punch, allowing it to revenge kill Pokemon such as Jynx, Choice Scarf Haunter, and Scolipede. Raticate also has access to both U-Turn and Swords Dance, allowing it to function as either a scout or sweeper. However, Raticate should really be used Zangoose and Swellow What does this mean? I can't correct it if I don't know what's correct due to its higher Speed over the former and Stealth Rock weakness over the latter; otherwise, you're better off using the former two instead.</p>

[SET]
name: Guts
move 1: Facade
move 2: Sucker Punch
move 3: U-turn
move 4: Pursuit / Swords Dance
item: Flame Orb / Toxic Orb
ability: Guts
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Raticate's decent Attack and unique Speed tier make it a formidable Guts abuser. As with several other Guts abusers, Facade is Raticate's most powerful STAB, (RC) with a whooping 210 Base Power, and allows Raticate to break through walls such as Alomomola and Tangela if it is running Swords Dance. Sucker Punch is Raticate's main draw over other Guts abusers, as it allows Raticate to bypass Choice Scarf users that other Guts abusers please change the rest of these have trouble with, most notably Jynx. U-Turn is used to maintain momentum. Elaborate? Pursuit is the preferred option in the final slot, as it allows Raticate to put Pokemon such as Haunter and Jynx in a checkmate position. However, Swords Dance is an option, as it is Raticate's only way of boosting its Attack stat and allows Raticate to sweep weakened teams. However, Raticate is extremely frail, meaning that it can only set up a Swords Dance if it forces a switches or takes advantages of foes using Protect, (AC) such as Alomomola and Lickilicky, thus making Pursuit the preferred option.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The choice between the Flame Orb and the Toxic Orb depends on the user. If you would like Raticate to act as a wallbreaker and stay in the match for a much longer duration of time, then the Flame Orb is the better item option. However, if you prefer Raticate to be more a scout, switching in and out of the battle with U-Turn, then the Toxic Orb is the preferred item choice. Explain in a damage sense why this is better Crunch is a very usable option over Sucker Punch, as it allows Raticate to hit many of its Ghost-type prey reliably. However, its lack of priority makes it the inferior option overall. Taunt is an option on this set, as it cripples common walls such as Roselia and Probopass, but Raticate is too frail to use this move effectively. Raticate can use Protect over either U-Turn or Swords Dance to guarantee Guts activation, but it has little use outside of that. While not needed, dual screens support from Pokemon such as Gardevoir and Meganium is very useful, as it mitigates Raticate's pitiful bulk. Entry hazard support from Pokemon such as Scolipede, Pineco, or Garbodor is also recommended to aide Raticate's sweeping potential. For example, Pokemon such as Metang and Alomomola are 2HKOed by Facade after Stealth Rock and 2 two layers of Spikes. Golem is a very solid partner for this set, as it can not only set up Stealth Rock, but also threaten Rock- and Steel-types such as Regirock and Metang with Earthquake. Choice Band Sawk is another good partner to remove Rock- and Steel-types from the match.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Raticate can use its alternate ability, Hustle, with a Choice Scarf to become a fast and powerful revenge killer. Unfortunately, Raticate is a rather unreliable revenge killer thanks to the accuracy-lowering effects of Hustle. Hone Claws can be used in tandem with Hustle to mitigate the accuracy issues, but at this point, you're better off using the Guts set with Swords Dance. Raticate can use Super Fang to halve the opponent's HP, but this is an extremely risky tactic, as nearly any move from the foe will OHKO Raticate. Finally, Raticate has an excellent special movepool, with moves such as Shadow Ball, Charge Beam, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, and Blizzard, but its mediocre Special Attack makes these moves all but useless.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Bulky Rock-types such as Regirock and Golem make excellent counters to Raticate, as they apart from a the rare low health Reversal, (RC) they fear absolutely nothing from Raticate and can OHKO it with Stone Edge. Metang is a great counter, as it can withstand a Swords Dance boosted-Facade, (RC) and OHKO in return with Meteor Mash. Ghost-types such as Misdreavus and Golurk can stall out the status damage that Raticate is receives by simply not attacking, but lose if Raticate is carrying Crunch. Alomomola and Tangela can stall out Raticate also stall Raticate out until its death if it lacks Swords Dance. Common Pokemon that are able to withstand a Sucker Punch, such as Choice Scarf Primeape and Gurdurr, can easily revenge kill Raticate with little difficulty due to its low defenses. Preventing Raticate from getting a Guts boost with momentum and offensive presence is a a great way to stop it, as it is extremely weak without the Guts boost. How is this possible? If it gets in at all, it gets guts up. Perhaps you mean something like "keeping constant offensive pressure on the opponent's team will keep raticate from switching in at all due to its low defenses, which means it will not be able to active guts before it starts attacking." However, this method will fail if Raticate is carrying Protect. Finally, if you lack defensive answers to Raticate, then it is best to capitalize on the fact that Raticate is usually put on a timer due the the status Orb, so packing entry hazards and priority users is a good way to keep it in check.</p>

Raseri asked me to look this over before the 3/3 check, so unfortunately this doesn't count for your two grammar checks!

 

[Magcargo]

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[WhiteDMist]

The first sentence is pointless and fluffy (and is insinuating that NU is obscure), so I'd remove it and try and point something else out as an opening sentence with a bit more information. Also, I know we scrapped Reversal but you could still mention it in OO, ya know?

 

[soulgazer]

[Overview]

Due to its 55 / 60 / 70 Defenses, Raticate will often be hard-pressed to find a chance to switch in.

Just say 'Due to its mediocre bulk, ...' They will be able to see its stats at the top of the page anyway :)

[AC]

While not needed, dual screens support from Pokemon such as Gardevoir and Meganium is very useful, as it mitigates Raticate's pitiful bulk.

Serperior over Meganium, since it's more common and also more effective thanks to its Speed.

Entry hazard support from Pokemon such as Scolipede, Pineco, or Garbodor is also recommended to aide Raticate's sweeping potential.

Then two or three line after:

Golem is a very solid partner for this set, as it can not only set up Stealth Rock, but also threaten Rock- and Steel-types such as Regirock and Metang with Earthquake.

You should make a mention of what else Scolipede and Garbodor can do for Raticate, like taking any Fighting-type move for the rat while helping it get the chip damage it needs to KO certain threats with their entry hazards. Also, I would remove Pineco since it is pretty rare and doesn't add much. To be honest, if I were you I would rewrite that part, since at the moment it confuses me a little.

The Loser Of RU Implement this and I'll check later :)

 

[Magcargo]

Soulgazer I have implemented your recommended changes. Here are the exact sentences I have added / changed.

Entry hazard support from Pokemon such as Golem, Scolipede, or Garbodor is also recommended to aide Raticate's sweeping potential. For example, Pokemon such as Metang and Alomomola are 2HKOed by Facade after Stealth Rock and two layers of Spikes. These Pokemon also have good synergy with Raticate, with the former two resisting Raticate's Fighting-type weakness and the ladder being able to defeat Steel- and Rock-types such as Probopass.

I just thought I'd single those new sentences out in case someone wanted to make sure they were of good quality and grammar.

 

[soulgazer]

This looks better now :)

The Loser Of RU
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[ogasian]

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[Overview]

<p>Raticate suffers from many horrendous flaws, which is why it gets the shaft in favor of other Normal-types such as Zangoose. Due to its mediocre bulk, Raticate will often be hard-pressed to find a chance to switch in. Raticate has an amazing ability in Guts, but unfortunately Raticate is outclassed by nearly every Guts Pokemon in the tier, as most of them are either faster, more powerful, or bulkier than Raticate. To make matters worse, Raticate has a barren physical movepool, making it relatively easy to wall.</p>

<p>Despite these flaws, Raticate still has several traits making it worth using in the NU metagame. Its base 97 Speed is a blessing, as it allows Raticate to outpace common Pokemon such as Jynx and Haunter. Raticate is the only Guts abuser that has access to Sucker Punch, allowing it to revenge kill Pokemon such as Jynx, Choice Scarf Haunter, and Scolipede. Raticate also has access to both U-Turn and Swords Dance, allowing it to function as either a scout or a sweeper. However, Raticate should only be used Zangoose and Swellow due to its higher Speed over the former and Stealth Rock weakness over the latter; otherwise, you're better off using the former two instead. This is a very confusing sentence, maybe change it to: Although Raticate is largely outclassed by Zangoose and Swellow, its higher speed and lack of a Stealth Rock weakness set it apart. </p>

[SET]
name: Guts
move 1: Facade
move 2: Sucker Punch
move 3: U-turn
move 4: Pursuit / Swords Dance
item: Flame Orb / Toxic Orb
ability: Guts
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Raticate's decent Attack and unique Speed make it a formidable Guts user. As with several other Guts users, Facade is Raticate's most powerful STAB with a whopping 210 Base Power, which allows Raticate to break through walls such as Alomomola and Tangela with a Swords Dance boost. Sucker Punch is Raticate's main draw over other Guts users, as it allows Raticate to bypass Choice Scarf users that other Guts users have trouble with, most notably Jynx. U-Turn is used to maintain momentum against a counter, such as Probopass. Pursuit is the preferred option in the final slot, as it allows Raticate to checkmate Pokemon such as Haunter and Jynx. However, Swords Dance is an option, as it is Raticate's only way of boosting its Attack and allows Raticate to clean weakened teams. However, Raticate is extremely frail, meaning that it can only set up a Swords Dance if it forces a switch or takes advantages of foes using Protect, such as Alomomola and Lickilicky, thus making Pursuit the preferred option.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The choice between the Flame Orb and the Toxic Orb depends on the user. If you would like Raticate to act as a wallbreaker and stay in the match for much longer, then the Flame Orb is the better item option, as it does not deal as much residual damage over time. However, if you prefer Raticate to be more a scout, switching in and out of the battle with U-Turn, then the Toxic Orb is the preferred item of choice, as it deals less residual damage than the Toxic Orb in this situation. Crunch is a very usable option over Sucker Punch, as it allows Raticate to hit many of its Ghost-type prey reliably. However, its lack of priority makes it the inferior option overall. Reversal is an option, as it is Raticate's best way to hit Rock- and Steel-types. However, Reversal's unreliable damage output make it an inferior option to the moves listed above. Taunt is an option on this set, as it cripples common walls such as Roselia and Probopass, but Raticate is too frail to use this move effectively. Raticate can use Protect over either U-Turn or Swords Dance to guarantee Guts activation, but it has little use outside of that. While not needed, dual screens support from Pokemon such as Gardevoir and Serperior can be useful, as it mitigates Raticate's pitiful bulk. Entry hazard support from Pokemon such as Golem, Scolipede, or Garbodor is also recommended to aide Raticate's sweeping potential. For example, Pokemon such as Metang really? and Alomomola are 2HKOed by Facade after Stealth Rock and two layers of Spikes. These Pokemon also have good synergy with Raticate, with the former two resisting Raticate's Fighting-type weakness and the latter being able to defeat Steel- and Rock-types such as Probopass. Choice Band Sawk is another good partner to remove Rock- and Steel-types from the match.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Raticate can use its alternate ability, Hustle, with a Choice Scarf to become a fast and powerful revenge killer. Unfortunately, Raticate is a rather unreliable revenge killer thanks to the accuracy-lowering effects of Hustle. Hone Claws can be used in tandem with Hustle to mitigate the accuracy issues, but at this point, you're better off using the Guts set with Swords Dance. Raticate can use Super Fang to halve the opponent's HP, but this is an extremely risky tactic, as nearly any move from the foe will OHKO Raticate. Finally, Raticate has an excellent special movepool, with moves such as Shadow Ball, Charge Beam, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, and Blizzard, but its mediocre Special Attack makes these moves all but useless.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Bulky Rock-types such as Regirock and Golem make excellent counters to Raticate, as apart from a the rare Reversal they fear absolutely nothing from Raticate and can OHKO it with Stone Edge. Metang is a great counter, as it can withstand a Swords Dance boosted-Facade and OHKO in return with Meteor Mash. Ghost-types such as Misdreavus and Golurk can stall out the status damage that Raticate by simply not attacking, but lose if Raticate is carrying Crunch. Alomomola and Tangela can stall Raticate until its death if it lacks Swords Dance. Common Pokemon that are able to withstand a Sucker Punch, such as Choice Scarf Primeape and Gurdurr, can easily revenge kill Raticate with little difficulty due to its low defenses. Preventing Raticate from getting a Guts boost by applying constant offensive presence and preventing it from switching in due to its mediocre Defenses is a great way to stop it, as it is extremely weak without the Guts boost. However, this method will fail if Raticate is carrying Protect. Finally, if you lack defensive answers to Raticate, then it is best to capitalize on the fact that Raticate is usually put on a timer due the the status Orb, so packing entry hazards and priority users is a good way to keep it in check.</p>

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• Despite its low stats, Raticate can be quite a threat if used correctly
• Amazing ability in guts, boosting its mediocre attack to sky-high levels
• Excellent base 97 speed, allowing it to outspeed key threats such as Primeape and Jynx
• Atrocious defenses, meaning that any powerful attack will OHKO it
• Outclassed by virtually every other Guts user in the tier

[SET]
name: Guts
move 1: Facade
move 2: Sucker Punch
move 3: Swords Dance / U-Turn
move 4: Reversal
item: Flame Orb / Toxic Orb
ability: Guts
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 Def

[SET COMMENTS]

• Decent Guts abuser thanks to its high Speed and access to Sucker Punch
• Like many other Guts abusers, Facade is Raticate's most powerful STAB move
• Sucker Punch differentiates Raticate from other Guts abusers, as it prevents Raticate from being revenge killed by Choice Scarf Jynx
• Swords Dance is the premier option in the third slot, as it boost Raticate's attack to Sky-high levels
• However, U-turn can be used to gain momentum against foes such as Regirock,
• Reversal is used in the last slot, as it is unfortunately Raticate's only way to hit Rock and Steel-types hard

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

• EVs Maximize Attack and Speed
• The choice between Flame Orb and Toxic Orb depends on whether you use Swords Dance or U-Turn respectively
• Crunch can be used to reliably hit Ghost-types
• Because Raticate is so frail, Dual Screens support from Gardevoir and Meganium is recommended
• Golem is a good partner, as it can set up Stealth Rock, can threaten most Rock and Steel-types with a STAB Earthquake and allows Raticate to come in safely with Explosion
• Choice Band Sawk is another good partner, as it annihilates most Rock and Steel-types with Close Combat, while also weakening many of Raticate's counters, allowing it to sweep late-game
• Finally, pokemon that can set up Spikes, such as Scolipede and Garbodar, are good partners, as Stealth Rock and two layers of Spikes are required to 2HKO Metang with Facade

[Other Options]

• Hustle w/ Choice Scarf, but its low accuracy is a drawback
• Hone Claws
• Protect
• Super Fang
• Raticate has an amazing special movepool, but its low special attack means that it cannot abuse it

[Checks and Counters]

• Rock-types like Regirock do fairly well aganst Raticate, but if Raticate is at low health, they must watch out for Reversal
• Metang, but a it gets 2HKOed by a +2 Facade after Stealth Rock and 2 layers of Spikes
• Misdreavus can in on Raticate's Normal STAB and stall out poison/burn damage by not attacking, but it loses if Raticate has Crunch
• Gurdurr can revenge kill the rat with Mach Punch
• Choice Scarf Primeape and Sawk can also revenge kill Raticate

Well, my first amcheck, hopefully it's not bad. Nice work Macargo2! You will always be Macargo from Skarmory Sands to me <3

 

[Magcargo]

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<p>Raticate suffers from many horrendous flaws, which is why it gets the shaft in favor of other Normal-types such as Zangoose. Due to its mediocre bulk, Raticate will often be hard-pressed to find a chance to switch in. Raticate has an amazing ability in Guts, but unfortunately Raticate is outclassed by nearly every Guts-using Pokemon in the tier, as most of them are either faster, more powerful, or bulkier than Raticate. To make matters worse, Raticate has a barren physical movepool, making it relatively easy to wall.</p>

<p>Despite these flaws, Raticate still has several traits making it worth using in the NU metagame. Its base 97 Speed is a blessing, as it allows Raticate to outpace common Pokemon such as Jynx and Haunter. Raticate is the only Guts user that which has access to Sucker Punch, allowing it to revenge kill Pokemon such as Jynx, Choice Scarf Haunter, and Scolipede. Raticate also has access to both U-Tturn and Swords Dance, allowing it to function as either a scout or a sweeper. Although Raticate is largely outclassed by Zangoose and Swellow, its higher sSpeed and lack of a Stealth Rock weakness set it apart.</p>

[SET]
name: Guts
move 1: Facade
move 2: Sucker Punch
move 3: U-turn
move 4: Pursuit / Swords Dance
item: Flame Orb / Toxic Orb
ability: Guts
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Raticate's decent Attack and unique Speed make it a formidable Guts user. As with several other Guts users, Facade is Raticate's most powerful STAB with a whopping 210 Base Power, which allows allowing Raticate to break through walls such as Alomomola and Tangela with after a Swords Dance boost. Sucker Punch is Raticate's main draw over other Guts users, as it allows Raticate to bypass Choice Scarf users that other Guts users have trouble with, most notably Jynx. U-Tturn is used to maintain momentum against a counter such as Probopass. Pursuit is the preferred option in the final slot, as it allows Raticate to checkmate Pokemon such as Haunter and Jynx. However, Swords Dance is an option, as it is Raticate's only way of boosting its Attack and allows Raticate to clean up against weakened teams. However, Raticate is extremely frail, meaning that it can only set up a Swords Dance if it forces a switch or takes advantages of foes using Protect, such as Alomomola and Lickilicky, thus making Pursuit the preferred option.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The choice between the Flame Orb and Toxic Orb depends on the user. If you would like Raticate to act as a wallbreaker and stay in the match for much longer, then Flame Orb is the better item, as it does not deal as much residual damage over time. However, if you prefer Raticate to be more act as a scout, switching in and out of the battle with U-Tturn, then the Toxic Orb is the preferred item of choice, as it deals less residual damage than the Toxic Orb in this situation. Crunch is a very usable option over Sucker Punch, as it allows Raticate to hit many of its Ghost-type prey reliably. However, its lack of priority makes it the inferior option overall. Reversal is an option, as it is Raticate's best way to hit Rock- and Steel-types. However, Reversal's its unreliable damage output makes it an inferior option to the moves listed above. Taunt is an option on this set, as it cripples common walls such as Roselia and Probopass, but Raticate is too frail to use this move effectively. Raticate can use Protect over either U-Tturn or Swords Dance to guarantee Guts activation, but it has little use outside of that. While not needed, dual screens support from Pokemon such as Gardevoir and Serperior can be useful, as it they mitigates(apparently dual screens are taken as plural(idk why though)) Raticate's pitiful bulk. Entry hazard support from Pokemon such as Golem, Scolipede, or and Garbodor is also recommended to aid Raticate's sweeping potential. For example, Pokemon such as Metang and Alomomola are 2HKOed by Facade after Stealth Rock and two layers of Spikes. These Pokemon also have good synergy with Raticate, with the former two resisting Raticate's Fighting-type weakness and the latter being able to defeat Steel- and Rock-types such as Probopass. Choice Band Sawk is another good partner to remove Rock- and Steel-types from the match.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Raticate can use its alternate ability, Hustle, with a Choice Scarf to become a fast and powerful revenge killer. Unfortunately, Raticate is a rather unreliable revenge killer thanks to the accuracy-lowering effects of Hustle. Hone Claws can be used in tandem with Hustle to mitigate the accuracy issues, but at this point, you're better off using the Guts set with Swords Dance. Raticate can use Super Fang to halve the opponent's HP, but this is an extremely risky tactic, as nearly any move from the foe will OHKO Raticate. Finally, Raticate has an excellent special movepool, with moves such as Shadow Ball, Charge Beam, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, and Blizzard, but its mediocre Special Attack makes these moves all but useless.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Bulky Rock-types such as Regirock and Golem make excellent counters to Raticate, as apart from a the rare Reversal,(AC) they fear absolutely nothing from Raticate and can OHKO it with Stone Edge. Metang is a great counter, as it can withstand a Swords Dance boosted-Facade and OHKO in return with Meteor Mash. Ghost-types such as Misdreavus and Golurk can stall out the status damage that Raticate by simply not attacking bypass Sucker Punch with a non-damaging move and stall it out due to its status Orb(you could also mention specifically that it's SR and w-o-w but w/e), but lose if Raticate is carrying Crunch. Alomomola and Tangela can stall out Raticate until its death(mention how they will do so, or simply remove this) if it lacks Swords Dance. Common Pokemon that are able to withstand a Sucker Punch, such as Choice Scarf Primeape and Gurdurr, can easily revenge kill Raticate with little difficulty due to its low defenses. Preventing Raticate from getting a Guts boost by applying constant offensive presence pressure and preventing it from switching in due to its mediocre Ddefenses is a great way to stop it, as it is extremely weak without the Guts boost. However, this method will fail if Raticate is carrying Protect. Finally, if you lack defensive answers to Raticate, then it is best to capitalize on the fact that Raticate is usually put on a timer due the the status Orb, so packing entry hazards and priority users is a good way to keep it in check.</p>

Ok, so I've written a bunch of QC stuff there, so despite the changes, unfortunately i can't provide a c/p. Look over them, however. You should also look over for any obvious changes(such as>like, serial commas, weird wording etc) before sending it to GP.
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[Magcargo]

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[Overview]

<p>Raticate suffers from many horrendous flaws, which is why it gets the shaft in favor of other Normal-types such as Zangoose. Due to its mediocre bulk, Raticate will often be is often hard-pressed to find a chance to switch in. Raticate has an amazing ability in Guts, but unfortunately Raticate it is outclassed by nearly every Guts-using Pokemon in the tier, as most of them are either faster, more powerful, or bulkier than Raticate. To make matters worse, Raticate has a barren physical movepool, making it relatively easy to wall.</p>

<p>Despite these flaws, Raticate still has several traits making it worth using in the NU metagame. Its base 97 Speed is a blessing, as it allows Raticate to outpace common Pokemon such as Jynx and Haunter. Raticate is the only Guts user which has access to Sucker Punch, allowing it to revenge kill Pokemon such as Jynx, Choice Scarf Haunter, and Scolipede. Raticate also has access to both U-turn and Swords Dance, allowing it to function as either a scout or a sweeper. Although Raticate is largely outclassed by Zangoose and Swellow, its higher Speed and lack of a Stealth Rock weakness set it apart.</p>

[SET]
name: Guts
move 1: Facade
move 2: Sucker Punch
move 3: U-turn
move 4: Pursuit / Swords Dance
item: Flame Orb / Toxic Orb
ability: Guts
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Raticate's decent Attack and unique Speed make it a formidable Guts user. As with several other Guts users, Facade is Raticate's most powerful STAB (add comma) with a its whopping 210 Base Power, (remove comma) Allowing allowing Raticate to break through walls such as Alomomola and Tangela after a Swords Dance boost. Sucker Punch is Raticate's main draw over other Guts users, as it allows Raticate to bypass Choice Scarf users that other Guts users have trouble with, most notably Jynx. U-Turn U-turn is used to maintain momentum against a counter counters such as Probopass. Pursuit is the preferred option in the final slot, as it allows Raticate to checkmate Pokemon such as Haunter and Jynx. However, Swords Dance is an option, as it is Raticate's only way of boosting its Attack and allows Raticate it to clean up against weakened teams. However, Raticate is extremely frail, meaning that it can only set up a Swords Dance if it forces a switch or takes advantages of foes using Protect, such as Alomomola and Lickilicky, thus making Pursuit the preferred option (you already said pursuit is preferred).</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The choice between the Flame Orb and Toxic Orb depends on the user. If you would like Raticate to act as a wallbreaker and stay in the match for much longer, then Flame Orb is the better item, as it does not deal as much residual damage over time. However, if you prefer Raticate to act as a scout, switching in and out of the battle with U-turn, then the Toxic Orb is the preferred item of choice, as it deals less residual damage than the Toxic Orb Flame Orb in this situation. Crunch is a very usable option over Sucker Punch, as it allows Raticate to hit many of its Ghost-type prey reliably. However, its lack of priority makes it the inferior option overall. Reversal is an option, as it is Raticate's best way to hit Rock- and Steel-types. However, it's its unreliable damage output makes it an inferior option to the moves listed above. Taunt is an option on this set, as it cripples common walls such as Roselia and Probopass, but Raticate is too frail to use this move effectively. Raticate can use Protect over either U-turn or Pursuit and Swords Dance to guarantee Guts activation, but it has little use outside of that.</p>

<p>While not needed, dual screens support from Pokemon such as Gardevoir and Serperior can be useful, as they mitigate it mitigates Raticate's pitiful bulk. Entry hazard support from Pokemon such as Golem, Scolipede, and Garbodor is also recommended to aid increase Raticate's sweeping potential. For example, Pokemon such as Metang and Alomomola are 2HKOed by Facade after Stealth Rock and two layers of Spikes. These Pokemon hazard setters also have good synergy with Raticate, with the former first two resisting Raticate's Fighting-type weakness and the latter last being able to defeat Steel- and Rock-types such as Probopass. Choice Band Sawk is another good partner to remove Rock- and Steel-types from the match.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Raticate can use its alternate ability, Hustle, with a Choice Scarf to become a fast and powerful revenge killer. Unfortunately, Raticate is a rather unreliable revenge killer thanks due to the accuracy-lowering effects of Hustle. Hone Claws can be used in tandem with Hustle to mitigate the accuracy issues, but at this point, you're better off using the Guts set with Swords Dance. Raticate can use Super Fang to halve the opponent's HP, but this is an extremely risky tactic, as nearly any move from the foe will OHKO Raticate. Finally, Raticate has an excellent special movepool, with moves such as Shadow Ball, Charge Beam, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, and Blizzard, but its mediocre Special Attack makes these moves all but useless.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Bulky Rock-types such as Regirock and Golem make excellent counters to Raticate, as apart from the rare Reversal, they fear absolutely nothing from Raticate and can OHKO it with Stone Edge. Metang is a great counter, as it can withstand a Swords Dance boosted-Facade and OHKO in return with Meteor Mash. Ghost-types such as Misdreavus and Golurk can bypass Sucker Punch with a non-damaging move and stall it Raticate out due to its status Orb, but they lose if Raticate it is carrying Crunch. Alomomola and Tangela can stall out Raticate if it lacks Swords Dance. Common Pokemon that are able to withstand a Sucker Punch, such as Choice Scarf Primeape and Gurdurr, can easily revenge kill Raticate with little difficulty due to its low defenses. Preventing Raticate from getting a Guts boost by applying constant offensive pressure and preventing it from switching in due to its mediocre Defenses (you've mentioned this a bunch already, and it seemed a little awkward here) is a great way to stop it, as it is extremely weak without the Guts boost. However, this method will fail if Raticate is carrying Protect. Finally, if you lack Defensive defensive answers to Raticate, then it is best to capitalize on the fact that Raticate is usually put on a timer due the the to its status Orb, so packing entry hazards and priority users is a good way to keep it in check.</p>

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[Magcargo]

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[Blue Frog]

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[Overview]

<p>Raticate suffers from many horrendous flaws, which is why it gets the shaft in favor of other Normal-types such as Zangoose. Due to its mediocre bulk, Raticate is often hard-pressed to find a chance to switch in. While Raticate has an amazing ability in Guts, but unfortunately it is outclassed by nearly every Guts-using Pokemon in the tier, as most of them most of whom are either faster, more powerful, or bulkier than Raticate. To make matters worse, Raticate has a barren physical movepool, making it relatively easy to wall.</p>

<p>Despite these flaws, Raticate still has several traits making that make it worth using in the NU metagame. Its base 97 Speed is a blessing, as it allows Raticate to outpace common Pokemon such as Jynx and Haunter. Raticate is the only Guts user which has access to Sucker Punch, allowing it to revenge kill Pokemon such as Jynx, Choice Scarf Haunter, and Scolipede. Raticate also has access to both U-turn and Swords Dance, allowing it to function as either a scout or a sweeper. Although Raticate is largely outclassed by Zangoose and Swellow, its higher Speed and lack of a Stealth Rock weakness (Zangoose has no Stealth Rock weakness and Swellow is faster, so you may want to specify that) set it apart.</p>

[SET]
name: Guts
move 1: Facade
move 2: Sucker Punch
move 3: U-turn
move 4: Pursuit / Swords Dance
item: Flame Orb / Toxic Orb
ability: Guts
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Raticate's decent Attack and unique Speed make it a formidable Guts user. As with several other Guts users, Facade is Raticate's most powerful STAB move, with its whopping 210 Base Power allowing Raticate to break through walls such as Alomomola and Tangela after a Swords Dance boost. Sucker Punch is Raticate's main draw over other Guts users, as it allows Raticate to bypass Choice Scarf users that other Guts users have trouble with, most notably Jynx. U-turn is used to maintain momentum against counters such as Probopass. Pursuit is the preferred option in the final slot, as it allows Raticate to checkmate Pokemon such as Haunter and Jynx. However, Swords Dance is also an option, as it is Raticate's only way of boosting its Attack and allows it to clean up against weakened teams. However, Raticate is extremely frail, meaning that it can only set up a Swords Dance if it forces a switch or takes advantages advantage of foes using Protect, such as Alomomola and Lickilicky.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The choice between Flame Orb and Toxic Orb depends on the user. If you would like Raticate to act as a wallbreaker and stay in for longer, then Flame Orb is the better item, as it does not deal as much residual damage over time. However, if you prefer Raticate to act as a scout, switching in and out of the battle with U-turn, then Toxic Orb is the item of choice, as it deals less residual damage than Flame Orb in this situation. Crunch is a very usable option over Sucker Punch, as it allows Raticate to hit many much of its Ghost-type prey reliably. However, its lack of priority makes it the an inferior option overall. Reversal is an option, as it is being Raticate's best way to hit Rock- and Steel-types. However, its unreliable damage output makes it an inferior option to the moves listed above. Taunt is an option on this set, as it cripples common walls such as Roselia and Probopass, but Raticate is too frail to use this move it effectively. Raticate can use Protect over either U-turn or Pursuit and Swords Dance to guarantee Guts activation, but it has little use outside of that.</p>

<p>While not needed, dual screens support from Pokemon such as Gardevoir and Serperior can be useful, as it mitigates Raticate's pitiful bulk. Entry hazard support from Pokemon such as Golem, Scolipede, and Garbodor is also recommended to increase Raticate's sweeping potential. For example, Pokemon such as Metang and Alomomola are 2HKOed by Facade after Stealth Rock and two layers of Spikes. These hazard setters also have good synergy with Raticate, with the first two resisting Raticate's Fighting-type weakness and the last being able to defeat Steel- and Rock-types such as Probopass. Choice Band Sawk is another good partner to remove Rock- and Steel-types from the match.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Raticate can use its alternate ability, Hustle, with a Choice Scarf to become a fast and powerful revenge killer. Unfortunately, Raticate is a rather unreliable revenge killer due to the accuracy-lowering effects of Hustle. Hone Claws can be used in tandem with Hustle to mitigate the accuracy issues, but at this point, you're better off using the Guts set with Swords Dance. Raticate can use Super Fang to halve the opponent's HP, but this is an extremely risky tactic, as nearly any move from the foe will OHKO Raticate. Finally, Raticate has an excellent special movepool, with moves such as Shadow Ball, Charge Beam, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, and Blizzard, but its mediocre Special Attack makes these moves all but useless.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Bulky Rock-types such as Regirock and Golem make excellent counters to Raticate, as, (AC) apart from the rare Reversal, they fear absolutely nothing and can OHKO with Stone Edge. Metang is a great counter, as it can withstand a Swords Dance boosted-Facade and OHKO in return with Meteor Mash. Ghost-types such as Misdreavus and Golurk can bypass Sucker Punch with a non-damaging move and stall Raticate out due to its status Orb, but they lose if it is carrying Crunch. Alomomola and Tangela can stall out Raticate if it lacks Swords Dance. Common Pokemon that are able to withstand a Sucker Punch, such as Choice Scarf Primeape and Gurdurr, can easily revenge kill Raticate with little difficulty due to its low defenses. Preventing Raticate from switching in and getting a Guts boost by applying constant offensive pressure and preventing it from switching in is a great way to stop it, as it is extremely weak without the Guts boost. However, this method will fail if Raticate is carrying Protect. Finally, if you lack defensive answers to Raticate, then it is best to capitalize on the fact that Raticate is usually put on a timer due to its status Orb, so packing entry hazards and priority users is a good way to keep it in check.</p>

 

[piikachuu]

looks good Blue Frog

only changes:

Raticate's Fighting-type weakness and the last being able to defeat Steel- and Rock-types such as Probopass.

change this to rock- and steel-types because that's how you refer to it every time - even in the next sentence

as, (AC) apart from the rare Reversal,

rather than add a comma here, remove the comma after reversal so it looks like: "Bulky Rock-types such as Regirock and Golem make excellent counters to Raticate, as apart from the rare Reversal they fear absolutely nothing and can OHKO with Stone Edge."

they lose if it Raticate is carrying Crunch.

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[Magcargo]

Sorry for the delay, but implemented GP check.
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[Raseri]

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