The thread goes in the direction of the OP, unless trainwrecked by ignorant people like me. The OP is speaking about the Politicizing of the Conservative use of rhetoric as the cause of this sick and twisted (not to mention clearly mentally ill) man going on this rampage that took the lives of one too many persons. I thank God there were people to stop this murderous lunatic. I certainly hope and pray each and every surviving victim heals fully. Anyways..... If you want to discuss this topic, then this is the thread. It's not about your reflection on the shootings (the title is a bit deceiving) it's about something related to it. From what i can gather, this man should have been in an asylum. There was no reason to assume, 15 minutes (or whatever short length of time after the event) after this happened that conservative rhetoric lead him to do it, especially when there was no liable info to make any assumptions with! Talk about an ignorant point! I would also like to see these so called quotes by actual conservative tea party people calling for actual violence and use of weaponry. If this isn't some sort of ad hominem, than i don't know what Ad hominem is any more... Seriously, As of late, it has become that anything Deck Knight says is automatically written off as unintelligent because he is conservative and the loud majority on Smogon is liberal. Instead of automatically writing off anything DK says as intelligent, why don't you use your declared superiour worldview and your logical skills to reduce his arguments to absurdity. What's the matter? Scared? Think DK won't quit when he knows he's wrong? I know he can. I can too. It's totally possible. This is starting to get insane. You guys treat DK like crap. Have you ever once put yourself in his shoes and tried to understand his position and try to imagine what kind of heat you'd get in a massively conservative-christian environment as one of few vocal liberals in such environment?