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Regice (GP 2/2)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by DTC, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. DTC

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    [Overview]

    <p>With access to the excellent BoltBeam combo, Thunder Wave, and an amazing Special Defense stat allowing it to tank most special attacks comfortably, Regice is quite a cool (no pun intended) Pokemon to use in NU. It has the ability to reliably check Gorebyss and Jynx, two of the most powerful special attackers in NU, and can easily spread paralysis around thanks to its STAB Ice attacks threatening Ground-types who may try to come in to block Thunder Wave. Pokemon who can break through Regice's defenses, such as Sawk and Magmortar, are also threatened by Thunder Wave.</p>

    <p>However, while it may have amazing special bulk and decent physical bulk, Regice's ability to tank various hits is offset by its horrendous Ice typing. Ice only grants Regice a resistance to itself, which is somewhat useful for checking Jynx, but other than that, it doesn't do anything to help Regice. To make things worse, Ice also gives Regice a plethora of weaknesses to common attacking types, such as Rock and Fighting. As it is weak to Stealth Rock, vulnerable to all hazards, and lacks reliable recovery, Regice is fairly easy to wear down. Despite all this, if your team has issues with powerful special attackers and if you can use the paralysis support, Regice is not a bad choice for your team. You should note, however, that it's hard to cover all of Regice's weaknesses.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Thunder Wave
    move 1: Thunder Wave
    move 2: Ice Beam
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Rest
    item: Chesto Berry
    nature: Modest
    evs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Threats such as Gorebyss and Jynx run rampant in NU, and this set aims to successfully check them while not giving other sweepers an opportunity to switch in. Regice's Special Attack isn't amazing, so it has to use Thunder Wave to threaten Pokemon that attempt to switch in on it. Ice Beam is Regice's STAB move of choice, but only really hits 4x weak targets, such as Torterra and Altaria, hard. Thunderbolt complements Ice Beam well, allowing Regice to hit the likes of Gorebyss and Samurott. Rest is an unreliable move thanks to the new sleep mechanics, but Regice needs some kind of recovery as it is easily weakened, which is where Rest + Chesto Berry comes in. It's not like Regice actually misses Leftovers, as it's usually only out for a few turns, nor does it really miss whatever else it can use in the last slot, as it doesn't have many options. It's also worth noting that Chesto Berry helps Regice check Jynx on the first use of Lovely Kiss.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Stealth Rock is a pain, and even though such an issue probably won't happen in a normal match, Regice appreciates the ability to switch in to Stealth Rock four times without fainting. Therefore, 248 HP EVs are used over the standard 252 HP EVs. If you're not a fan of ChestoRest, you can use Leftovers in the item slot and Focus Blast as the last move. Focus Blast, while fairly unreliable thanks to its low accuracy, can still be useful for hitting threats such as Lickilicky and Probopass.</p>

    <p>Regice doesn't have that much in the way of options that wouldn't mess up the set or be anything other than generally useless. However, that's not to say that Regice doesn't appreciate useful teammates. Regice has an incredible Special Defense stat, but its typing really ruins it. Quagsire synergizes well with Regice, resisting the Fire-, Grass-, and Rock-type attacks Regice is weak to, while also tanking physical hits comfortably. Quagsire's only weakness is Grass, and since most Grass-types use special attacks, Regice can easily switch in on them and retaliate with STAB Ice Beam. Regice has a problem with recovery, especially if it has already used up its Chesto Berry, so Pokemon with Wish, such as Lickilicky and Audino, can be very useful for it; they can also use Heal Bell to cure Regice of sleep if it needs to recover earlier. Tangela, while not the best Pokemon when it comes to type synergy with Regice, comfortably tanks physical attacks that would do a lot of damage to Regice, while also healing it a little bit with Leech Seed. As mentioned earlier, Regice hates hazards, so it would be helpful to pack a Rapid Spin user such as Torkoal or Armaldo to spin them away.</p>

    [SET]
    name: RestTalk
    move 1: Rest
    move 2: Sleep Talk
    move 3: Ice Beam
    move 4: Thunderbolt
    item: Leftovers
    nature: Modest
    evs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD

    <p>RestTalk is a generally disliked strategy in BW thanks to the new sleep mechanics; if Regice can't stay in for three turns at a time, it'll have to rely on the unreliable Sleep Talk to do any damage. The lack of Thunder Wave makes this set even easier to switch into. Don't let these points make you think this set is outclassed by the first, though, because RestTalk Regice boasts a key advantage: survivability. Regice will be able to survive longer using this set, as it can Rest whenever necessary and still maintain the ability to check the threats it needs to given a little luck. Thunderbolt and Ice Beam are used for optimal coverage.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Don't play recklessly with this set, as even though it has a slightly more reliable way of healing, Regice can still be weakened rather easily. As such, a more defensive spread with more Special Defense EVs can be useful so Regice has less of an issue with tanking stronger special attacks. Regice might not always be able to stay in for three turns to wake up from Rest; therefore, a cleric such as Lickilicky or Audino can be helpful. Quagsire synergizes well with Regice and deals with threatening Pokemon such as Camerupt and Magmortar. If you want something that can take physical hits well for Regice, Tangela is a great candidate with its amazing Defense stat. As always, a spinner is helpful for Regice, as it's easily worn down by hazards, especially Stealth Rock.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Rock Polish can be used to set up and sweep; however, even with a Modest nature and a Life Orb, Regice simply isn't powerful enough to sweep a team. It will also not be able to last long considering Stealth Rock damage, Life Orb recoil, and possible damage received while setting up or from priority attacks. Charge Beam is another interesting setup option that gives Regice a way to improve its decent Special Attack stat. However, note that Regice is very slow, and Charge Beam eats up a useful moveslot, in which Regice could otherwise run Thunder Wave to cripple sweepers or Rest for semi-reliable recovery. Curse is a more defensive setup option that patches up Regice's low Defense stat to an extent, but a physically based Regice would have to use the weak Ice Punch and ThunderPunch off of base 50 Attack.</p>

    <p>Regice can actually use set-up opponents, such as Calm Mind Jynx and Mesprit, to its advantage by using Psych Up to obtain their boosts and then Frost Breath to negate their Special Defense boosts. It's a pretty gimmicky option, however, as Calm Mind users would usually switch out of Regice, and it leaves Regice as susceptible as ever to physical attacks. Finally, Toxic is a decent option on any defensive Pokemon, but Regice should be spending its time spreading paralysis as it threatens Ground-types well; paralysis also helps Regice get past checks such as Sawk and Braviary.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>As with any Stealth Rock-weak Pokemon, having it up cripples Regice. Regice struggles with walling threats such as Jynx and Gorebyss after it takes Stealth Rock damage; therefore, if you can manage to keep Stealth Rock up throughout the mach, Regice will be a lot less threatening. Camerupt and Quagsire can set up Stealth Rock well and don't care about anything Regice throws at them other than the rare Toxic. Gurdurr and Throh can also switch into Regice with ease, and even enjoy switching into Thunder Wave thanks to Guts. More examples of Pokemon that can switch into Regice without being crippled or taking much damage include Lickilicky, Miltank, and Audino, who can also remove status with Heal Bell.</p>

    <p>You might have noticed that many of Regice's checks are defensive; however, offense doesn't struggle that much against Regice either. While offensive teams tend to lack good switch-ins to Regice, as long as they can avoid switching into Thunder Wave, Regice shouldn't be too threatening to them. Pokemon such as Sawk and Emboar can swiftly KO Regice before it can deal any damage to them, and Magmortar and Braviary can also put a dent into Regice, especially if Stealth Rock is up. Regice generally isn't that hard of a Pokemon to beat; just don't keep your special attacker in on it unless it can manage to muscle through Regice, or you can afford to sacrifice it.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Ice Body would have been an effective ability for Regice back when hail was in NU; unfortunately, with the Snow Warning ban, Ice Body is useless.</p>
  2. erisia

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    This may be a gimmick, but it may be worth mentioning Psych Up + Frost Breath in the OO. Regice can take any attack from a Calm Minder other than Focus Blast, grab its boosts, and use Frost Breath to bypass the opponent's Special Defense bonuses. After using Rock Polish a few times, you can then sweep.

    [SET]
    name: Psych Up
    move 1: Psych Up
    move 2: Frost Breath
    move 3: Rock Polish
    move 4: Thunderbolt / Hidden Power Ground
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Clear Body
    nature: Modest
    evs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 Spe

    Calcs (open)

    +6 Modest 252 SpA Leftovers Mesprit Psychic: 82.69 - 97.52%
    +6 Bold Eviolite Misdreavus Hidden Power Fighting: 52.74 - 62.08%
    +6 Timid 252 SpA Leftovers Jynx Ice Beam: 42.03 - 49.72%
    +6 Bold Eviolite Duosion Hidden Power Fighting: 72.52 - 85.71%
    +6 Bold Leftovers Serperior Hidden Power Rock: 63.18 - 74.72%
    +6 Bold Leftovers Musharna Hidden Power Fighting: 63.18 - 74.72%
    +6 Timid 252 SpA Life Orb Butterfree Bug Buzz: 81.86 - 96.7%

    These calcs all assume the opponent is at +6 SpD
    +6 Frost Breath vs. 252/0 Mesprit: 126.09 - 148.35% (+5 required for OHKO)
    +6 Frost Breath vs. 252/0 Eviolite Misdreavus: 112.34 - 132.71% (+5 required for OHKO)
    +6 Frost Breath vs. 0/0 Jynx: 91.2 - 107.69% (+6 required for OHKO)
    +6 Frost Breath vs. 252/0 Eviolite Duosion: 143.71 - 169.16% (+4 required for OHKO)
    +6 Frost Breath vs. 60/0 Serperior: 326.14 - 384.31% (+1 required for OHKO)
    +6 Frost Breath vs. 240/16 Musharna: 113.16 - 133.25% (+5 required for OHKO)
    +6 Frost Breath vs. 0/0 Butterfree: 437.54 - 515.7% (+0 required for OHKO)

    The only Calm Minder that regularly beats this is Gardevoir with Focus Blast, but you can't win 'em all, right? Just switch into the opponent as they're boosting, let them boost up to +5, use Psych Up to grab the boosts as they go up to +6, and OHKO them all except for Jynx, who can't do anything back if it's already used a Lovely Kiss. This is assuming the worst case scenario in terms of damage: if you come in earlier, you can use Rock Polish as they try and chip away at your health, letting you sweep without any risk of a physical attacker coming in. Only +6 Mesprit, Duosion and Butterfree can 2HKO you through Psych Up, so come in against them a little earlier. You can also beat Gorebyss with this, but you'll have to come in as it switches in, since it can boost so quickly.
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    I don't see much to change. Unless any other QC member catches something that I'm missing, this looks excellent.

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    I get to bust this sucker out finally, thanks V0x!
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    This is written and ready for GP checks. :)
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    la la la checking

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    [Overview]

    <p>With access to the infamous BoltBeam combo, Thunder Wave, and an amazing Special Defense stat allowing it to tank most special attacks comfortably, Regice is quite a cool (no pun intended) Pokemon to use in NU. It has the ability to reliably check Gorebyss and Jynx, 2 of some (two) of the most powerful special attackers in NU, and can easily spread Thunder Wave (paralysis) around thanks to its STAB Ice attacks threatening Ground-types who may try to come in to block it (Thunder Wave). Pokemon such as Sawk and Magmortar who can break through Regice's defenses (comma) (such as Sawk and Magmortar,) are also threatened by Thunder Wave.</p>

    <p>However, while it may have amazing special bulk and decent physical bulk, its ability to tank various hits is offset by its horrendous Ice-typing. Ice only grants Regice on resistance in itself (a resistance to itself), which is somewhat useful for checking Jynx, but other than that it doesn't do anything else to help Regice. That's not even the worse(t) part—it also gives Regice a bunch of weaknesses, (comma) (as its typing also gives Regice a plethora of weaknesses to) including common attacking types such as Rock and Fighting. If that wasn't enough, it doesn't have a resistance to any hazards and is weak to Stealth Rock; and thanks to that and lack of reliable recovery, Regice is fairly easy to ware (wear) down. (semi-colons get rid of the need for and/but etc) Despite all this, if your team has issues with powerful special attackers and if you can use the Thunder Wave (paralysis) support, Regice is not a bad choice for your team. You should note (comma) (however,) that it's hard to cover its weaknesses.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Thunder Wave
    move 1: Thunder Wave
    move 2: Ice Beam
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Rest
    item: Chesto Berry
    nature: Modest
    evs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Many threats such as Gorebyss and Jynx run rampant in NU, and this set aims to successfully check them while not allowing many things (giving other sweepers an opportunity) to switch-in. Regice's Special Attack isn't amazing, so it has to use Thunder Wave to threaten Pokemon that attempt to switch in on it. Ice Beam is Regice's STAB (move, hitting) and hits targets such as Torterra and Altaria hard. Thunderbolt complements Ice Beam well, allowing Regice to hit targets such as Gorebyss and Samurott. Rest is an unreliable attack (move) thanks to the (new) sleep mechanics, however (but) Regice needs some kind of recovery as it is easily weakened, therefore (so) using the item (a) Chesto Berry with Rest on Regice is effective. It's not like Regice actually misses Leftovers as it's only out for a few turns, nor does it really miss whatever else it can use in the last slot since it doesn't have many options. It's also worth noting that Chesto Berry also helps Regice check Jynx if Jynx hasn't used (on the first use of) Lovely Kiss already.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>SR (Stealth Rock) is a pain, and being able to switch in to it up to 4 (four) times can be very useful for Regice, even though that probably won't happen in a normal match, therefore 248 HP EV's is (are) used over the standard 252 HP EV's. If you're not a fan of ChestoRest, you can use Leftovers in the item slot and Focus Blast as the last move. Focus Blast, while fairly unreliable thanks to its low accuracy, can still be useful for hitting threats such as Lickilicky and Probopass hard.</p>

    <p>Regice doesn't have that much in the way of options that wouldn't mess up the set or being (anything other than) generally useless, however who's to say that Regice doesn't appreciate useful teammates? Regice has an incredible Special Defense stat, but its typing really ruins it. Quagsire synergi(z)es well with Regice, resisting its Fighting- and Rock-type weakness(es), while also tanking physical hits comfortably. Quagsire's only weakness is Grass, and since most Grass-types use special attacks, Regice can easily switch-in to them and retaliate with a STAB Ice Beam. Regice has a problem with recovery, especially if it has already used its Chesto Berry up, so Pokemon with Wish (comma) such as Lickilicky and Audino (comma) can be very useful for it; they can also use Heal Bell to cure Regice of sleep if it needs to recover earlier. Tangela, while not the best Pokemon when it comes to synergy with Regice, comfortably tanks any physical attacks that would do a lot of damage to Regice, while also healing it a little bit with Leech Seed. As mentioned earlier, Regice hates SR being up (hazards), so using (having) a Rapid Spin user such as Torkoal or Armaldo to spin them away is very helpful.</p>

    [SET]
    name: RestTalk
    move 1: Rest
    move 2: Sleep Talk
    move 3: Ice Beam
    move 4: Thunderbolt
    item: Leftovers
    nature: Modest
    evs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD

    <p>The strategy RestTalk is a generally disliked strategy in 5th gen (BW) thanks to the new sleep mechanics; if Regice can't stay in for 3 (three) turns at a time, it'll have to rely on the unreliable Sleep Talk attack for Regice to have an attempt at attacking. The lack of Thunder Wave makes this set even easier to switch-in(remove space)to. Don't let these facts make you think this set is outclassed by the other, because it does have one big thing over the other set: Livability (survivability). Regice will be able to survive longer using this set as you can just Rest and have less fear of Regice being useless as it can still check threats that it needs to, with a little luck. (whenever necessary and still count on Regice to check threats it needs to if given a little luck.)</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Don't play recklessly with this set, as even though you have (it has) a slightly more reliable way of healing, Regice can still be weakened rather easily. As such, a more defensive spread with more Special Defense EV's can be useful so Regice has less of an issue with tanking stronger special attacks. You might not even have enough time to stay in for 3 (three) turns to outlast the sleep turns, therefore a cleric such as Lickilicky and Audino can be helpful. Quagsire synergi(z)es well with Regice, and deals with threatening Pokemon such as Camerupt and Magmortar. If you want something that can take physical hits well for Regice, Tangela is a great candidate with its amazing Defense stat. As always, a spinner is helpful for Regice, as it's easily worn down by hazards—especially SR (Stealth Rock).</p>

    (remove line space)
    [Other Options]

    <p>Rock Polish can be used as an attempt for Regice (to set Regice up) to sweep; however, Regice simply isn't powerful enough to sweep through a team, even with a Modest nature and a Life Orb attached, and will not be able to last long considering the potential of SR (Stealth Rock) being up, Life Orb residual damage, and potential damage received during setup or from priority attacks. Charge Beam is another interesting setup option, giving Regice a boosting move to improve its decent Special Attack stat; just note that it's very slow and that Charge Beam eats up a potentially useful moveslot that can be used for other things, such as for Thunder Wave or semi-reliable recovery. Curse is a more defensive setup option which patches up Regice's low Defense stat, to an extent, but it has to use the weak Ice Punch and ThunderPunch attacks for attacking moves, and coming from base 50 Attack the attacks do even less damage. Regice can actually use other Pokemon that setup, such as Calm Mind Jynx and Mesprit, to its advantage by using Psych Up to obtain the boosts and then using Frost Breath to break through any Special Defense boosts they obtain. It's a pretty gimmicky option, as usually Calm Mind users would usually switch out from Regice, and because Regice is still susceptible as ever to physical attacks, but is a fun option nonetheless. Finally, Toxic is a decent option on any defensive Pokemon, however Regice should be spending its time spreading paralysis as it threatens Ground-types well, and helps Regice get past checks such as Sawk and Braviary.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>As with any Stealth Rock(hyphen)weak Pokemon, having SR (it) up cripples Regice. Regice struggles beating threats such as Jynx and Gorebyss with SR (rocks) up, therefore if you can manage to keep SR (Stealth Rock) up throughout the mach, Regice will be a lot less threatening. Camerupt and Quagsire can set up SR (Stealth Rock) well and doesn't care about anything Regice throws at it (them) other than the rare Toxic. Gurdurr and Throh can also switch into Regice with ease, and even enjoy switching into Thunder Wave thanks to Guts. There are even more examples of Pokemon that can switch into Regice without being crippled or taking much damage, such as Lickilicky, Miltank, and Audino, who can also Heal Bell off status.</p>

    <p>You may have noticed that many of Regice's checks are defensive, however, offense doesn't struggle that much with Regice either. While offens(iv)e teams tend to lack good switch-ins to Regice, as long as they can avoid switching into Thunder Wave, Regice shouldn't be too threatening to them. Many Pokemon such as Sawk and Emboar can swiftly KO Regice before it can deal any damage to them. Pokemon such as Magmortar and Braviary can also put a dent into Regice—especially if SR is (rocks are) up. Regice generally isn't that hard of a Pokemon to beat, just don't keep your special attacker in on it unless it can manage to muscle through Regice or you can afford to sac(rifice) it.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Ice Body would have been an effective ability for Regice back when hail was in NU; unfortunately, hail isn't in NU anymore, therefore Ice Body is useless.</p>


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    [Overview]

    <p>With access to the infamous BoltBeam combo, Thunder Wave, and an amazing Special Defense stat allowing it to tank most special attacks comfortably, Regice is quite a cool (no pun intended) Pokemon to use in NU. It has the ability to reliably check Gorebyss and Jynx, two of the most powerful special attackers in NU, and can easily spread paralysis around thanks to its STAB Ice attacks threatening Ground-types who may try to come in to block Thunder Wave. Pokemon who can break through Regice's defenses, such as Sawk and Magmortar, are also threatened by Thunder Wave.</p>

    <p>However, while it may have amazing special bulk and decent physical bulk, its ability to tank various hits is offset by its horrendous Ice-typing. Ice only grants Regice a resistance to itself, which is somewhat useful for checking Jynx, but other than that it doesn't do anything to help Regice. That's not even the worst part, as its typing also gives Regice a plethora of weaknesses to common attacking types such as Rock and Fighting. If that wasn't enough, it doesn't have a resistance to any hazards and is weak to Stealth Rock; thanks to that and lack of reliable recovery, Regice is fairly easy to wear down. Despite all this, if your team has issues with powerful special attackers and if you can use the paralysis support, Regice is not a bad choice for your team. You should note, however, that it's hard to cover its weaknesses.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Thunder Wave
    move 1: Thunder Wave
    move 2: Ice Beam
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Rest
    item: Chesto Berry
    nature: Modest
    evs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Many threats such as Gorebyss and Jynx run rampant in NU, and this set aims to successfully check them while not giving other sweepers an opportunity to switch in. Regice's Special Attack isn't amazing, so it has to use Thunder Wave to threaten Pokemon that attempt to switch in on it. Ice Beam is Regice's STAB move, hitting targets such as Torterra and Altaria hard. Thunderbolt complements Ice Beam well, allowing Regice to hit targets such as Gorebyss and Samurott. Rest is an unreliable move thanks to the new sleep mechanics, but Regice needs some kind of recovery as it is easily weakened, so using a Chesto Berry with Rest on Regice is effective. It's not like Regice actually misses Leftovers as it's only out for a few turns, nor does it really miss whatever else it can use in the last slot since it doesn't have many options. It's also worth noting that Chesto Berry helps Regice check Jynx on the first use of Lovely Kiss.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Stealth Rock is a pain, and being able to switch in to it up to four times can be very useful for Regice, even though that probably won't happen in a normal match, therefore 248 HP EVs are used over the standard 252 HP EVs. If you're not a fan of ChestoRest, you can use Leftovers in the item slot and Focus Blast as the last move. Focus Blast, while fairly unreliable thanks to its low accuracy, can still be useful for hitting threats such as Lickilicky and Probopass.</p>

    <p>Regice doesn't have that much in the way of options that wouldn't mess up the set or be anything other than generally useless, however who's to say that Regice doesn't appreciate useful teammates? Regice has an incredible Special Defense stat, but its typing really ruins it. Quagsire synergizes well with Regice, resisting its Fighting- and Rock-type weaknesses, while also tanking physical hits comfortably. Quagsire's only weakness is Grass, and since most Grass-types use special attacks, Regice can easily switch in to them and retaliate with a STAB Ice Beam. Regice has a problem with recovery, especially if it has already used its Chesto Berry up, so Pokemon with Wish, such as Lickilicky and Audino, can be very useful for it; they can also use Heal Bell to cure Regice of sleep if it needs to recover earlier. Tangela, while not the best Pokemon when it comes to synergy with Regice, comfortably tanks any physical attacks that would do a lot of damage to Regice, while also healing it a little bit with Leech Seed. As mentioned earlier, Regice hates hazards, so having a Rapid Spin user such as Torkoal or Armaldo to spin them away is very helpful.</p>

    [SET]
    name: RestTalk
    move 1: Rest
    move 2: Sleep Talk
    move 3: Ice Beam
    move 4: Thunderbolt
    item: Leftovers
    nature: Modest
    evs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD

    <p>RestTalk is a generally disliked strategy in BW thanks to the new sleep mechanics; if Regice can't stay in for three turns at a time, it'll have to rely on the unreliable Sleep Talk to have an attempt at attacking. The lack of Thunder Wave makes this set even easier to switch into. Don't let these facts make you think this set is outclassed by the other, because it does have one big thing over the other set: survivability. Regice will be able to survive longer using this set as you can just Rest whenever necessary and still count on Regice to check threats it needs to if given a little luck.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Don't play recklessly with this set, as even though it has a slightly more reliable way of healing, Regice can still be weakened rather easily. As such, a more defensive spread with more Special Defense EVs can be useful so Regice has less of an issue with tanking stronger special attacks. You might not even have enough time to stay in for three turns to outlast the sleep turns, therefore a cleric such as Lickilicky and Audino can be helpful. Quagsire synergizes well with Regice and deals with threatening Pokemon such as Camerupt and Magmortar. If you want something that can take physical hits well for Regice, Tangela is a great candidate with its amazing Defense stat. As always, a spinner is helpful for Regice, as it's easily worn down by hazards—especially Stealth Rock.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Rock Polish can be used to set Regice up to sweep; however, Regice simply isn't powerful enough to sweep through a team, even with a Modest nature and a Life Orb attached, and will not be able to last long considering the potential of Stealth Rock being up, Life Orb residual damage, and potential damage received during setup or from priority attacks. Charge Beam is another interesting setup option, giving Regice a boosting move to improve its decent Special Attack stat; just note that it's very slow and that Charge Beam eats up a potentially useful moveslot that can be used for other things, such as for Thunder Wave or semi-reliable recovery. Curse is a more defensive setup option which patches up Regice's low Defense stat, to an extent, but it has to use the weak Ice Punch and ThunderPunch attacks for attacking moves, and coming from base 50 Attack the attacks do even less damage. Regice can actually use other Pokemon that setup, such as Calm Mind Jynx and Mesprit, to its advantage by using Psych Up to obtain the boosts and then using Frost Breath to break through any Special Defense boosts they obtain. It's a pretty gimmicky option, as usually Calm Mind users would switch out from Regice, and because Regice is still susceptible as ever to physical attacks, but is a fun option nonetheless. Finally, Toxic is a decent option on any defensive Pokemon, however Regice should be spending its time spreading paralysis as it threatens Ground-types well, and helps Regice get past checks such as Sawk and Braviary.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>As with any Stealth Rock-weak Pokemon, having it up cripples Regice. Regice struggles beating threats such as Jynx and Gorebyss with rocks up, therefore if you can manage to keep Stealth Rock up throughout the mach, Regice will be a lot less threatening. Camerupt and Quagsire can set up Stealth Rock well and don't care about anything Regice throws at them other than the rare Toxic. Gurdurr and Throh can also switch into Regice with ease, and even enjoy switching into Thunder Wave thanks to Guts. There are even more examples of Pokemon that can switch into Regice without being crippled or taking much damage, such as Lickilicky, Miltank, and Audino, who can also Heal Bell off status.</p>

    <p>You may have noticed that many of Regice's checks are defensive, however, offense doesn't struggle that much with Regice either. While offensive teams tend to lack good switch-ins to Regice, as long as they can avoid switching into Thunder Wave, Regice shouldn't be too threatening to them. Many Pokemon such as Sawk and Emboar can swiftly KO Regice before it can deal any damage to them. Pokemon such as Magmortar and Braviary can also put a dent into Regice—especially if rocks are up. Regice generally isn't that hard of a Pokemon to beat, just don't keep your special attacker in on it unless it can manage to muscle through Regice or you can afford to sacrifice it.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Ice Body would have been an effective ability for Regice back when hail was in NU; unfortunately, hail isn't in NU anymore, therefore Ice Body is useless.</p>


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    Thanks for the great GP check, Mafe. Implemented. :)
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    3rd line of Checks and Counters: 'rocks' should be 'Stealth Rock'
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    Another quick note; in AC of the first set you claim that Quagsire resists its Fighting- and Rock-type weaknesses; Quagsire does not resist Fighting, however it does resist Fire and Steel which should probably be mentioned instead, alternatively you can say "Quagsire is a great partner, resisting three of Regice's four weaknesses" or something like that. Just on a quick skim through, this is very well written and I can't find enough errors to warrant me checking it, well done!
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    Wow, how did I make that mistake? xD And thanks!
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    [Overview]

    <p>With access to the excellent BoltBeam combo, Thunder Wave, and an amazing Special Defense stat allowing it to tank most special attacks comfortably, Regice is quite a cool (no pun intended) Pokemon to use in NU. It has the ability to reliably check Gorebyss and Jynx, two of the most powerful special attackers in NU, and can easily spread paralysis around thanks to its STAB Ice attacks threatening Ground-types who may try to come in to block Thunder Wave. Pokemon who can break through Regice's defenses, such as Sawk and Magmortar, are also threatened by Thunder Wave.</p>

    <p>However, while it may have amazing special bulk and decent physical bulk, Regice's ability to tank various hits is offset by its horrendous Ice typing. Ice only grants Regice a resistance to itself, which is somewhat useful for checking Jynx, but other than that, it doesn't do anything to help Regice. To make things worse, Ice also gives Regice a plethora of weaknesses to common attacking types, such as Rock and Fighting. As it is weak to Stealth Rock, vulnerable to all hazards, and lacks reliable recovery, Regice is fairly easy to wear down. Despite all this, if your team has issues with powerful special attackers and if you can use the paralysis support, Regice is not a bad choice for your team. You should note, however, that it's hard to cover all of Regice's weaknesses.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Thunder Wave
    move 1: Thunder Wave
    move 2: Ice Beam
    move 3: Thunderbolt
    move 4: Rest
    item: Chesto Berry
    nature: Modest
    evs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Threats such as Gorebyss and Jynx run rampant in NU, and this set aims to successfully check them while not giving other sweepers an opportunity to switch in. Regice's Special Attack isn't amazing, so it has to use Thunder Wave to threaten Pokemon that attempt to switch in on it. Ice Beam is Regice's STAB move of choice, but only really hits 4x weak targets, such as Torterra and Altaria, hard. Thunderbolt complements Ice Beam well, allowing Regice to hit the likes of Gorebyss and Samurott. Rest is an unreliable move thanks to the new sleep mechanics, but Regice needs some kind of recovery as it is easily weakened, which is where Rest + Chesto Berry comes in. It's not like Regice actually misses Leftovers, as it's usually only out for a few turns, nor does it really miss whatever else it can use in the last slot, as it doesn't have many options. It's also worth noting that Chesto Berry helps Regice check Jynx on the first use of Lovely Kiss.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Stealth Rock is a pain, and even though such an issue probably won't happen in a normal match, Regice appreciates the ability to switch in to Stealth Rock four times without fainting. Therefore, 248 HP EVs are used over the standard 252 HP EVs. If you're not a fan of ChestoRest, you can use Leftovers in the item slot and Focus Blast as the last move. Focus Blast, while fairly unreliable thanks to its low accuracy, can still be useful for hitting threats such as Lickilicky and Probopass.</p>

    <p>Regice doesn't have that much in the way of options that wouldn't mess up the set or be anything other than generally useless. However, that's not to say that Regice doesn't appreciate useful teammates. Regice has an incredible Special Defense stat, but its typing really ruins it. Quagsire synergizes well with Regice, resisting the Fire-, Grass-, and Rock-type attacks Regice is weak to, while also tanking physical hits comfortably. Quagsire's only weakness is Grass, and since most Grass-types use special attacks, Regice can easily switch in on them and retaliate with STAB Ice Beam. Regice has a problem with recovery, especially if it has already used up its Chesto Berry, so Pokemon with Wish, such as Lickilicky and Audino, can be very useful for it; they can also use Heal Bell to cure Regice of sleep if it needs to recover earlier. Tangela, while not the best Pokemon when it comes to type synergy with Regice, comfortably tanks physical attacks that would do a lot of damage to Regice, while also healing it a little bit with Leech Seed. As mentioned earlier, Regice hates hazards, so it would be helpful to pack a Rapid Spin user such as Torkoal or Armaldo to spin them away.</p>

    [SET]
    name: RestTalk
    move 1: Rest
    move 2: Sleep Talk
    move 3: Ice Beam
    move 4: Thunderbolt
    item: Leftovers
    nature: Modest
    evs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD

    <p>RestTalk is a generally disliked strategy in BW thanks to the new sleep mechanics; if Regice can't stay in for three turns at a time, it'll have to rely on the unreliable Sleep Talk to do any damage. The lack of Thunder Wave makes this set even easier to switch into. Don't let these points make you think this set is outclassed by the first, though, because RestTalk Regice boasts a key advantage: survivability. Regice will be able to survive longer using this set, as it can Rest whenever necessary and still maintain the ability to check the threats it needs to given a little luck. <mention boltbeam for optimal coverage?></p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Don't play recklessly with this set, as even though it has a slightly more reliable way of healing, Regice can still be weakened rather easily. As such, a more defensive spread with more Special Defense EVs can be useful so Regice has less of an issue with tanking stronger special attacks. Regice might not always be able to stay in for three turns to wake up from Rest; therefore, a cleric such as Lickilicky or Audino can be helpful. Quagsire synergizes well with Regice and deals with threatening Pokemon such as Camerupt and Magmortar. If you want something that can take physical hits well for Regice, Tangela is a great candidate with its amazing Defense stat. As always, a spinner is helpful for Regice, as it's easily worn down by hazards, especially Stealth Rock.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Rock Polish can be used to set up and sweep; however, even with a Modest nature and a Life Orb, Regice simply isn't powerful enough to sweep a team. It will also not be able to last long considering Stealth Rock damage, Life Orb recoil, and possible damage received while setting up or from priority attacks. Charge Beam is another interesting setup option that gives Regice a way to improve its decent Special Attack stat. However, note that Regice is very slow, and Charge Beam eats up a useful moveslot, in which Regice could otherwise run Thunder Wave to cripple sweepers or Rest for semi-reliable recovery. Curse is a more defensive setup option that patches up Regice's low Defense stat to an extent, but a physically based Regice would have to use the weak Ice Punch and ThunderPunch off of base 50 Attack.</p>

    <p>Regice can actually use set-up opponents, such as Calm Mind Jynx and Mesprit, to its advantage by using Psych Up to obtain their boosts and then Frost Breath to negate their Special Defense boosts. It's a pretty gimmicky option, however, as Calm Mind users would usually switch out of Regice, and it leaves Regice as susceptible as ever to physical attacks. Finally, Toxic is a decent option on any defensive Pokemon, but Regice should be spending its time spreading paralysis as it threatens Ground-types well; paralysis also helps Regice get past checks such as Sawk and Braviary.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>As with any Stealth Rock-weak Pokemon, having it up cripples Regice. Regice struggles with walling threats such as Jynx and Gorebyss after it takes Stealth Rock damage; therefore, if you can manage to keep Stealth Rock up throughout the mach, Regice will be a lot less threatening. Camerupt and Quagsire can set up Stealth Rock well and don't care about anything Regice throws at them other than the rare Toxic. Gurdurr and Throh can also switch into Regice with ease, and even enjoy switching into Thunder Wave thanks to Guts. More examples of Pokemon that can switch into Regice without being crippled or taking much damage include Lickilicky, Miltank, and Audino, who can also remove status with Heal Bell.</p>

    <p>You might have noticed that many of Regice's checks are defensive; however, offense doesn't struggle that much against Regice either. While offensive teams tend to lack good switch-ins to Regice, as long as they can avoid switching into Thunder Wave, Regice shouldn't be too threatening to them. Pokemon such as Sawk and Emboar can swiftly KO Regice before it can deal any damage to them, and Magmortar and Braviary can also put a dent into Regice, especially if Stealth Rock is up. Regice generally isn't that hard of a Pokemon to beat; just don't keep your special attacker in on it unless it can manage to muscle through Regice, or you can afford to sacrifice it.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Ice Body would have been an effective ability for Regice back when hail was in NU; unfortunately, with the Snow Warning ban, Ice Body is useless.</p>


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    Sorry, I've been doing a few other things. Check implemented; thanks sirn!

    This should be ready for upload now. :)
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