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Reshiram or Zekrom? Lets see...

Discussion in 'BW Other Teams' started by PDC, Oct 31, 2010.

  1. PDC

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    Hi guys, as you may know, my last uber team was pretty good. It reached pretty high on ladder. That was gen 4 though and now it's gen 5! So, I made a pretty simple and probubly averedge uber team. As you may know, shrangs recent team used Skarmory which is one of my favorite pokemon t use in ubers. Anyway, I decided to put him in this team as it has some really good niches. Happy Halloween everyone too!

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    Tyranitar (M) @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Payback
    - Stone Edge
    - Stealth Rock
    - Superpower

    Tyranitar is one of those Pokemon that functions in more than 1 way for this team. It helps take on things like Ho-oh, Latias, Latios, Mew and Mewtwo who are all really annoying. It's also capable of defeating Darkrai. It makes sure that Deoxys dosen't get more than SR up thanks to Sandstorm too. Tyranitar makes a great lead for any team. It even beats Shaymin-S!

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    Arceus-Ghost @ Spooky Plate
    Trait: Multitype
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - ExtremeSpeed
    - Shadow Force
    - Brick Break

    Ghost Arceus is my spin blocker/Stall Break/Check to everything SD. It can check Lucario and SD Rayquaza if it's weakened a bit. It also can take weakened stuff out with ES. As many can atest, Ghost Arceus is one of the best Arceus out there. It has a great stat board while also having a multiple range of types. It has good synergy with most of my team who dosen't take fighting well at all. So ghost Arceus was the best choice.

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    Palkia @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 136 Atk / 120 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
    - Outrage
    - Draco Meteor
    - Fire Blast
    - Thunder

    Palkia revenges DDQQuaza, SD Chomp ect. It also is my SpecsOgre counter which is a pretty big threat to any team. The spread I got from Jibaku, gives me more attacking power with Outrage for stuff like Dialga who I'm forced to Outrage against. This happens so often it's pretty much needed. It also helps vs mewtwo which is a huge threat to my team. Palkia is just amazing. It works as a mix sweeper, revenger, ect.

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    Groudon @ Leftovers
    Trait: Drought
    EVs: 200 HP / 200 Atk / 108 Def
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge
    - Swords Dance
    - Thunder Wave

    Groudon paras pretty much everything from Rayquazas to Kyogres to even Ho-ohs sometimes! It's pretty cool when your opponents entire team ends up getting statused. Later on I can just SD up and sweep whatevers left. I wanted a bit bulkier Groudon incase I needed something for a SDQuaza or Lucario emergensy. It fitted pretty well and saved me more times than I can remember. Groudon also supports Reshiram who i've currently been trying to see if it works on my team.

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    Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Whirlwind
    - Spikes
    - Roost
    - Toxic

    SKARMORY SKARM METAL-BIRD THINGY WITH EPIC RED UNDERWINGS.... UH..UHH.... FTW. Ok Skarmory is the same thing no matter how you saw it's name. It's that metal bird that has epic recovery who has great defence and can set up Spikes while resisting dragon attacks with ease. It also has Toxic to poison Mewtwo =). Skarmory however has been thought of being replaced with Nattori for the time being as i'm using Reshiram who loves Rapid Spin. When i'm using Zekrom though, which I am currently, Skarm is back.

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    Reshiramu @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Turbo Blaze
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Blue Flame
    - Draco Meteor
    - Flamethrower
    - Dragon Pulse

    SpecsReshiram is an awsome pokemon. Blue Fire in the sun owns EVERYTHING. Same with Draco Meteor. If it was faster this thing would be beyond epic uber. It has pretty nice special defence so I use it to help take out Mewtwo sometimes. Or lure it to explode on Arceus. Dragon Pulse and Flamethower are weaker back up moves that never miss. Or can be used for longer sweeping terms. Again, Zekrom = Skarm + Zekrom and Reshiram = Nattori + Reshiram..... or Skarmory. CB Zekrom is win. Tell me who you think I a better choice in rates! Thanks for reading.

    OR ZEKROM AS SKARM CANNOT RS AWAY HAZARDS THAT OWN RESHIRAM. SO SHOULD I USE NATTORI? OR USE ZEKROM OVER RESHIRAM?

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    Zekrom @ Choice Band
    Trait: TeraVoltage
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Outrage
    - Lighting Strike
    - Cross Thunder
    - Dragon Claw

    BandZekrom is also epic. It's Outrage rips through EVERYTHING. Literally. I 2HKO'd a Skarmory with this thing. It all depends on what move I want to use. It can finish of Kyogre with no trouble at all. Well... most of the time. I switch him in on Thunders as it 4X resists it so thats epic set up bait for it. It's ability isn't much help to me as Reshirams is. But still, I guess it could help for something with Volt Absorb. Anyway, Zekrom is pretty cool. Try it out sometime.


    Stuff I'm considering

    Using Forry as lead then using Defencive Groudon as SR? Then use something in place of where Skarm was? (Probubly only when using Reshiram. maybe.) Then use possibly ScarfTar. Diffrent lead instead of TTar?
  2. -TheLucarioEffect-

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    well this might help make your decision, but considering palkia can check kyogre and respond with thunder, i'd go with Reshiram. I've used that set to great success, and under the sun, its a beast. it should also be noted that volt absorb is hardly ever seen in ubers, but heatran can be hit with blue fire/flamethrower. Here's my two cents, enjoy
  3. ZetoTarken

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    Just a note, Nattorei doesn't learn rapid spin
  4. PDC

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    Umm... I think a 24 hour bump? I haven't really gotten any "rates" yet. So would anyone to something I should change?
  5. tawp64

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    You should probably get Arceus adamant, because his main move is priority.

    Reshiram is what I think you should choose, to balance the physical/special split in your team. Plus, it benefits from the sun. Otherwise, there isn't much else to say.
  6. STEELDRAGON

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    Just a short rate.. but

    Rock polish Groudon tears this team limb from limb. After a boost it OHKOes 5 out of the 6 members, and since your Skarmory is Special Defensive, it will take massive damage from Fire punch or Stone Edge. I don't exactly see how Zekrom fits in with your team. I would change that team slot to a Scarf Mewtwo, so It won't pose so much of a threat. You also really need a rapid spinner, as entry hazards will cause horrific damage to your team.


    Good luck with the team!

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