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Reshiram (Substitute)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by Furai, Apr 20, 2012.

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  1. Furai

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    [B][U]QC checks:[/U][/B] trickroom, shrang, barry4ever [B][3/3][/B]
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    [SET]
    name: Substitute
    move 1: Substitute
    move 2: Blue Flare
    move 3: Dragon Pulse
    move 4: Focus Blast
    item: Leftovers
    nature: Modest
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe


    [SET]
    name: Substitute
    move 1: Substitute
    move 2: Blue Flare
    move 3: Dragon Pulse
    move 4: Focus Blast
    item: Leftovers
    nature: Modest
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Because Reshiram forces a lot of switches due to its brute force and unresisted coverage, it can utilize Substitute to scout switch-ins such as Kyogre, Palkia, Tyranitar, and Dialga, which take heavy damage from Reshiram's moves. Substitute also allows Reshiram to have a better chance against weather teams, especially those which are rain- or sun-based. It is able to lure in and kill Kyogre with the aid of entry hazards, and can also set up a Substitute against Pokemon such as Ferrothorn, whereas sun teams cannot switch into anything bar the rare Rock Arceus or Water Arceus, Blissey and Chansey, or Ho-Oh (which must be cautious of Stealth Rock). Moreover, prediction, a key part in order to take on Reshiram, is nullified if it packs Substitute.</p>

    <p>Blue Flare, Reshiram's signature move, is also its strongest attack. Under the sun, 252 HP / 200 SpD Dialga is easily OHKOed after it has taken damage from Stealth Rock and two layers of Spikes. Dragon Pulse is a great secondary STAB move, offering perfect coverage due to Reshiram's Turboblaze ability with Blue Flare. It OHKOes 4 / 0 Giratina-O after Stealth Rock damage, easily 2HKOes physically defensive Giratina (specially defensive has a 98.05% chance to be 2HKOed after Stealth Rock damage), and has a 98.83% chance to 2HKO 52 HP Kyogre after it has switched into Stealth Rock and a layer of Spikes. Focus Blast rounds off the set with great overall coverage, striking Rock- and Steel-types for super effective damage; Tyranitar is easily OHKOed, and Dialga, which can easily sponge a Blue Flare in rain, is going to take a lot of damage. Offensive Dialga is OHKOed 43.75% of the time, whereas defensive Dialga is always 2HKOed.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EV spread provided grants Reshiram maximum offensive capabilities. Modest nature is required to guarantee the OHKO on 4 / 0 Giratina-O after Stealth Rock; Timid is thus an inferior option, even with the boost in Speed it provides. If Speed is still a concern, Flame Charge can be used over Focus Blast to nab a Speed boost on weakened opponents, but it is very weak and results in loss of coverage. Leftovers makes the preferred item as it heals Reshiram each turn, allowing it to set up more Substitutes.</p>

    <p>As said, due to Reshiram's immense power and coverage, it forces a lot of switches. Therefore, entry hazards are greatly appreciated and are key to this set's success. Groudon is an outstanding teammate to any Reshiram, as it not only lays down Stealth Rock, which ensures some OHKOs (such as the aforementioned one on Giratina-O), but also summons sun with Drought which boosts Reshiram's STAB Blue Flare. Forretress and Tentacruel also make good teammates by spinning away the entry hazards that bother Reshiram, especially Toxic Spikes. Both of the aforementioned Pokemon are also capable of laying Toxic Spikes, which allow Reshiram to get past special walls such as the pink blobs: Chansey and Blissey. That's not all; Forretress can lay down Spikes as well, whereas Tentacruel can remove Toxic Spikes instantly due to its Poison typing. Wish support is advised, letting Reshiram create more Substitutes; Chansey, Blissey, and Jirachi are viable teammates for this role. Opposing Chansey or Blissey can be problematic, so Mixed Palkia or Dialga are great partners due to their ability to lure in and defeat the blobs. Wobbuffet can grant more opportunities to set up a Substitute with Encore, as well as provide status immunity thanks to Safeguard.</p>

    <p>With its great special bulk, typing, and access to Roost, Ho-Oh can easily take on this set. Once you see it in Team Preview, be sure to get Stealth Rock up as fast as possible, as Reshiram can only 2HKO it after Stealth Rock damage with Dragon Pulse. Therefore, each time you suspect it will switch in, use Dragon Pulse so that Reshiram will be able to get past it. Although this set fares better than any other Reshiram against rain, the latter still messes things up for it; rain considerably diminishes Blue Flare's power, allowing bulkier Arceus formes, Lugia, and even Deoxys-D to wall Reshiram. Gastrodon only takes 34.5% - 40.84% from Dragon Pulse, and it can 2HKO Reshiram back with STAB Earthquake or Mirror Coat while healing off the damage with Recover.</p>
  2. Lord of Bays

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    Dragon Pulse doesn't always OKHO after Rocks, and that's only on 4/0 or 0/0 builds. Any bulk on the set and it lives.
  3. Furai

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    Which is the standard set. I'll give that a mention, though, to be 100% correct.
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    Should mention how SubResh can punish sun teams. With immense coverage and power it's bound to scare away many Pokemon, allowing for Substitute to be set up. Thing is, besides Rock Arceus (rare) or some weird Water Arceus (even rarer), Ho-Oh (Stealth Rock), or Chansey/Blissey, nothing else can swap in to Reshiram safely in sun teams. They usually rely on prediction to minimize the damage it does. Substitute just messes that up really badly, especially if your opponent switches in a Steel-type expecting a Dragon move because chances are it's going to die and Resh will still have its Sub up. IMO it punishes sun teams more than Rain teams as Kyogre is bulky enough to eat a few Dragon Pulses, and stuff like Tentacruel can semi-wall it in Rain with Protect + Rain Dish. Plus, Resh loses the ability to damage most Arceus formes due to the lack of sun.
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    This Reshiram set dies to Toxic Spikes easily, unless you switch in before it is set up. Tentacruel is a fine partner, since it can use Rapid Spin and provide Toxic Spikes so Reshiram has a better chance at defeating Chansey/Blissey. Using Tentacruel on sun teams isn't that horrible, it doesn't get OHKOed by Dialga regardless of weather(Excadrill dies to Fire Blast in sun). Opposing Kyogre is also very common.

    I like to say Specially Defensive Giratina can actually survive 2 Dragon Pulse at full health, 45.7% - 54.1%. Giratina can take a Dragon Pulse and Roar you out :) Blue Flare does less obviously.

    If Ho-Oh switches in as you use Sub, you are walled even if Stealth Rock is out. You should mention attack Ho-Oh first instead of using Sub if you see one in Team Preview. Dragon Pulse does 29.9% - 35.4% to 248 HP / 0 SpD Ho-Oh.

    Does it really deserve the slash then? Reshiram is more about power and coverage anyway with this set. Focus Blast also helps take out Arceus in the rain.

    Rain really messes up this Reshiram. Many things can wall it in rain, like what Jibaku mentioned, almost any bulky Arceus forme, Lugia and even Deoxys-D. Although it sucks usually, Gastrodon walls this Reshiram as well. Earthquake 2HKOes you while Dragon Pulse cannot 2HKO Gastrodon.

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    I've always liked this set.

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  8. Furai

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    Done, done, and done!
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    I tried this sometime back and it definitely works on Sun teams due to the large number of switches it causes. Trickroom got everything I wanted to point out especially unslashing Flame Charge. Also, maybe rename this set like Substitute + 3 Attacks ?
  10. Furai

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    Sweet, thanks. Will write this asap!


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    I just noticed this, how can Gastrodon kill Reshiram with Magic Coat? I think it should be Mirror Coat.
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    Fuck I always confuse between these two... Fixed, thanks trickroom, will write this later today!
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    [SET]
    name: Substitute
    move 1: Substitute
    move 2: Blue Flare
    move 3: Dragon Pulse
    move 4: Focus Blast
    item: Leftovers
    nature: Modest
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Because Reshiram forces a lot of switches due to its immense, brute force and unresisted coverage, it can utilize Substitute to scout in switch-ins, such as Kyogre, Palkia, Tyranitar, and Dialga, which are badly hit by take heavy damage fromReshiram's moves. Substitute also allows Reshiram to have a better chance against weather teams, especially those which are rain- or sun-based. It is able to lure in and kill Kyogre with the aid of entry hazards, and can also set up a Substitute against Pokemon such as Ferrothorn, whereas sun teams cannot switch into anything bar the rare Rock Arceus or Water Arceus, Blissey and Chansey, or Ho-Oh (which must be cautious of Stealth Rock). Moreover, prediction, a key part in order to take on Reshiram, is nullified with if it packs Substitute within its moves.</p>

    <p>Blue Flare, Reshiram's signature move, is also its strongest attack. Under the sun, 252 HP / 200 SpD (you missed the Pokemon here) is easily OHKOed after it has taken damage from Stealth Rock and two layers of Spikes. Dragon Pulse is a great secondary STAB, offering a perfect coverage due to Reshiram's Turboblaze ability with Blue Flare. It OHKOes 4 / 0 Giratina-O after Stealth Rock damage, easily 2HKOes physically defensive Giratina (specially defensive has a 98.05% chance to be 2HKOed after Stealth Rock damage), and has a 98.83% chance to 2HKO 52 HP Kyogre after it has switched into Stealth Rock and a layer of Spikes. Focus Blast rounds off the set with great overall coverage, striking Rock- and Steel-types for super effective damage; such as Tyranitar, which is easily OHKOed, and Dialga, which can easily sponge a Blue Flare in rain, is OHKOed most of the time (I am kinda iffy about this, actually. Offensive Dialga sets are OHKOed after a layer of Spikes, but defensive sets are only 2HKOed).</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EV spread provided grants Reshiram maximum offensive capabilities. Modest nature is required to guarantee the OHKO on 4 / 0 Giratina-O after Stealth Rock; therefore Timid nature makes the is thus an inferior option, even with the Speed boost it provides. If Speed is still a concern, Flame Charge can be used over Focus Blast to nab a Speed boost on weakened opponents, but it is very weak and results in a coverage loss of coverage. Leftovers makes the preferred item as it heals Reshiram each turn, allowing it to set up more Substitutes.</p>

    <p>As said, due to Reshiram's immense power and coverage, it forces a lot of switches. Therefore, entry hazards are greatly appreciated, and are a key for to this set's success. Groudon is an outstanding teammate to any Reshiram, as not only does it lay down Stealth Rock, which ensures some OHKOs (such as the aforementioned one on Giratina-O), the sun it summons with Drought boosts its Reshiram's Fire STAB in Blue Flare. Forretress and Tentacruel also make good teammates by utilizing Rapid Spin to spin away the entry hazards that bother Reshiram, especially Toxic Spikes that limit Reshiram's lifespan. Both are also capable of laying Toxic Spikes, which allow Reshiram to get past special walls, such as the pink blobs, Chansey and Blissey. However, That's not all; Forretress gets the bonus in the ability to canlay down Spikes as well, whereas Tentacruel can remove Toxic Spikes instantly due to its Poison typing. Wish support is advised, letting Reshiram create more Substitutes; thus Chansey, Blissey, and Jirachi are viable teammates for this role. Opposing Chansey or Blissey can be problematic, so Mixed Palkia or Dialga are great partners, due to withtheir ability to lure in and defeat the blobs. Wobbuffet can grant more opportunities to set up a Substitute with Encore, as well as status immunity thanks to Safeguard.</p>

    <p>Ho-Oh, With its great special bulk, typing, and access to Roost, Ho-Oh can easily take on this set. Once you see it in Team Preview, be sure to get Stealth Rock up as fast as possible, as Reshiram can only 2HKO it only after Stealth Rock damage with Dragon Pulse. Therefore, each time you suspect it will switch in, use Dragon Pulse, so that Reshiram would be able to get past it. Although this set fares better than any other Reshiram against rain, it the latter still messes thing up for it; the rain considerably diminishes Blue Flare's power, allowing bulkier Arceus formes, Lugia, and even Deoxys-D to wall Reshiram. Gastrodon only takes 34.5% - 40.84% from Dragon Pulse, and in return it can 2HKO Reshiram back with STAB Earthquake or double the damage back to Reshiram with Mirror Coat, whilehealing off the damage with Recover still being able to Recover the damage off.</p>


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    Implemented, thanks a lot CP! Check #2 leggo~
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    [SET]
    name: Substitute
    move 1: Substitute
    move 2: Blue Flare
    move 3: Dragon Pulse
    move 4: Focus Blast
    item: Leftovers
    nature: Modest
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Because Reshiram forces a lot of switches due to its brute force and unresisted coverage, it can utilize Substitute to scout switch-ins such as Kyogre, Palkia, Tyranitar, and Dialga, which take heavy damage from Reshiram's moves. Substitute also allows Reshiram to have a better chance against weather teams, especially those which are rain- or sun-based. It is able to lure in and kill Kyogre with the aid of entry hazards, and can also set up a Substitute against Pokemon such as Ferrothorn, whereas sun teams cannot switch into anything bar the rare Rock Arceus or Water Arceus, Blissey and Chansey, or Ho-Oh (which must be cautious of Stealth Rock). Moreover, prediction, a key part in order to take on Reshiram, is nullified if it packs Substitute.</p>

    <p>Blue Flare, Reshiram's signature move, is also its strongest attack. Under the sun, 252 HP / 200 SpD Dialga is easily OHKOed after it has taken damage from Stealth Rock and two layers of Spikes. Dragon Pulse is a great secondary STAB move, offering perfect coverage due to Reshiram's Turboblaze ability with Blue Flare. It OHKOes 4 / 0 Giratina-O after Stealth Rock damage, easily 2HKOes physically defensive Giratina (specially defensive has a 98.05% chance to be 2HKOed after Stealth Rock damage), and has a 98.83% chance to 2HKO 52 HP Kyogre after it has switched into Stealth Rock and a layer of Spikes. Focus Blast rounds off the set with great overall coverage, striking Rock- and Steel-types for super effective damage; Tyranitar is easily OHKOed, and Dialga, which can easily sponge a Blue Flare in rain, is takinggoing to take a lot of damage. Offensive Dialga is OHKOed 43.75% of the time, whereas defensive Dialga is always 2HKOed.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EV spread provided grants Reshiram maximum offensive capabilities. Modest nature is required to guarantee the OHKO on 4 / 0 Giratina-O after Stealth Rock; Timid is thus an inferior option, even with the Speed boost in Speed it provides. If Speed is still a concern, Flame Charge can be used over Focus Blast to nab a Speed boost on weakened opponents, but it is very weak and results in loss of coverage. Leftovers makes the preferred item as it heals Reshiram each turn, allowing it to set up more Substitutes.</p>

    <p>As said, due to Reshiram's immense power and coverage, it forces a lot of switches. Therefore, entry hazards are greatly appreciated and are key to this set's success. Groudon is an outstanding teammate to any Reshiram, as it not only does it lays down Stealth Rock, which ensures some OHKOs (such as the aforementioned one on Giratina-O), the sun itbut also summons sun with Drought which boosts Reshiram's STAB Blue Flare. Forretress and Tentacruel also make good teammates by utilizing Rapid Spin to spspinning away the entry hazards that bother Reshiram, especially Toxic Spikes. Both of the aforementioned Pokemon are also capable of laying Toxic Spikes, which allow Reshiram to get past special walls, such as the pink blobs,: Chansey and Blissey. That's not all; Forretress can lay down Spikes as well, whereas Tentacruel can remove Toxic Spikes instantly due to its Poison typing. Wish support is advised, letting Reshiram create more Substitutes; Chansey, Blissey, and Jirachi are viable teammates for this role. Opposing Chansey or Blissey can be problematic, so Mixed Palkia or Dialga are great partners withdue to their ability to lure in and defeat the blobs. Wobbuffet can grant more opportunities to set up a Substitute with Encore, as well as provide status immunity thanks to Safeguard.</p>

    <p>With its great special bulk, typing, and access to Roost, Ho-Oh can easily take on this set. Once you see it in Team Preview, be sure to get Stealth Rock up as fast as possible, as Reshiram can only 2HKO it only after Stealth Rock damage with Dragon Pulse. Therefore, each time you suspect it will switch in, use Dragon Pulse so that Reshiram wouldill be able to get past it. Although this set fares better than any other Reshiram against rain, the latter still messes things up for it; the rain considerably diminishes Blue Flare's power, allowing bulkier Arceus formes, Lugia, and even Deoxys-D to wall Reshiram. Gastrodon only takes 34.5% - 40.84% from Dragon Pulse, and it can 2HKO Reshiram back with STAB Earthquake or Mirror Coat, while healing off the damage with Recover.</p>


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    [SET]
    name: Substitute
    move 1: Substitute
    move 2: Blue Flare
    move 3: Dragon Pulse
    move 4: Focus Blast
    item: Leftovers
    nature: Modest
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Because Reshiram forces a lot of switches due to its brute force and unresisted coverage, it can utilize Substitute to scout switch-ins such as Kyogre, Palkia, Tyranitar, and Dialga, which take heavy damage from Reshiram's moves. Substitute also allows Reshiram to have a better chance against weather teams, especially those which are rain- or sun-based. It is able to lure in and kill Kyogre with the aid of entry hazards, and can also set up a Substitute against Pokemon such as Ferrothorn, whereas sun teams cannot switch into anything bar the rare Rock Arceus or Water Arceus, Blissey and Chansey, or Ho-Oh (which must be cautious of Stealth Rock). Moreover, prediction, a key part in order to take on Reshiram, is nullified if it packs Substitute.</p>

    <p>Blue Flare, Reshiram's signature move, is also its strongest attack. Under the sun, 252 HP / 200 SpD Dialga is easily OHKOed after it has taken damage from Stealth Rock and two layers of Spikes. Dragon Pulse is a great secondary STAB move, offering perfect coverage due to Reshiram's Turboblaze ability with Blue Flare. It OHKOes 4 / 0 Giratina-O after Stealth Rock damage, easily 2HKOes physically defensive Giratina (specially defensive has a 98.05% chance to be 2HKOed after Stealth Rock damage), and has a 98.83% chance to 2HKO 52 HP Kyogre after it has switched into Stealth Rock and a layer of Spikes. Focus Blast rounds off the set with great overall coverage, striking Rock- and Steel-types for super effective damage; Tyranitar is easily OHKOed, and Dialga, which can easily sponge a Blue Flare in rain, is going to take a lot of damage. Offensive Dialga is OHKOed 43.75% of the time, whereas defensive Dialga is always 2HKOed.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EV spread provided grants Reshiram maximum offensive capabilities. Modest nature is required to guarantee the OHKO on 4 / 0 Giratina-O after Stealth Rock; Timid is thus an inferior option, even with the boost in Speed it provides. If Speed is still a concern, Flame Charge can be used over Focus Blast to nab a Speed boost on weakened opponents, but it is very weak and results in loss of coverage. Leftovers makes the preferred item as it heals Reshiram each turn, allowing it to set up more Substitutes.</p>

    <p>As said, due to Reshiram's immense power and coverage, it forces a lot of switches. Therefore, entry hazards are greatly appreciated and are key to this set's success. Groudon is an outstanding teammate to any Reshiram, as it not only lays down Stealth Rock, which ensures some OHKOs (such as the aforementioned one on Giratina-O), but also summons sun with Drought which boosts Reshiram's STAB Blue Flare. Forretress and Tentacruel also make good teammates by spinning away the entry hazards that bother Reshiram, especially Toxic Spikes. Both of the aforementioned Pokemon are also capable of laying Toxic Spikes, which allow Reshiram to get past special walls such as the pink blobs: Chansey and Blissey. That's not all; Forretress can lay down Spikes as well, whereas Tentacruel can remove Toxic Spikes instantly due to its Poison typing. Wish support is advised, letting Reshiram create more Substitutes; Chansey, Blissey, and Jirachi are viable teammates for this role. Opposing Chansey or Blissey can be problematic, so Mixed Palkia or Dialga are great partners due to their ability to lure in and defeat the blobs. Wobbuffet can grant more opportunities to set up a Substitute with Encore, as well as provide status immunity thanks to Safeguard.</p>

    <p>With its great special bulk, typing, and access to Roost, Ho-Oh can easily take on this set. Once you see it in Team Preview, be sure to get Stealth Rock up as fast as possible, as Reshiram can only 2HKO it after Stealth Rock damage with Dragon Pulse. Therefore, each time you suspect it will switch in, use Dragon Pulse so that Reshiram will be able to get past it. Although this set fares better than any other Reshiram against rain, the latter still messes things up for it; rain considerably diminishes Blue Flare's power, allowing bulkier Arceus formes, Lugia, and even Deoxys-D to wall Reshiram. Gastrodon only takes 34.5% - 40.84% from Dragon Pulse, and it can 2HKO Reshiram back with STAB Earthquake or Mirror Coat while healing off the damage with Recover.</p>
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    Sweet, thanks for the check DittoCrow and for the stamp Jellicent, good to upload!
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