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CAP 2 Revenankh Playtesting

Discussion in 'CAP Process Archive' started by DougJustDoug, Apr 12, 2008.

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  1. DougJustDoug

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    Revenankh is live on the Battle Server!

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    You have to download new sprites. But it's now easier than before. Follow the instructions here:
    http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1067808&postcount=2

    This is the thread where we will coordinate playtesting, post feedback, and discuss possible revisions to Revenankh. For now, load it up on your teams and have some fun with it.

    We are looking for someone to serve as the Playtesting Director for Revenankh. If you are interested and qualified, post in this thread.
  2. KoA

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    Posting my version of the same screen. ;o

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  3. Amelia

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    Choice Specs Bug Buzz on Revenankh, just to see how much he takes :D
    Thanks for the Revenankh!
  4. Fishin

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    Nice, I'll have to try going on the server sometime soon.
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    dude max your hp on that set e__e
  6. KoA

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    Come on Gorm, I can't have a random set for screencap purposes?

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  7. Aki

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    @Playtesting:

    I've added Revenankh to my stall team.
    He works absolutly great at three roles: Breloom counter, BLissey killer and Spin blocker.

    I use this set:
    Revenankh @ Lefties @ Shed skin
    252/252 Hp/defence
    Impish
    -Ice Punch
    -Hammer arm
    -Rest
    -Shadow sneak/punch

    So far it's done extremly well. It works better than dusknoir at what i wanted it to do; however it needs thunderpunch. It really does.
  8. Sunday

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    Just a quick note are we every going to get sprites on Mac or it that just a pipe dream so to speak?
  9. Mekkah

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    Revenankh's main use seems to be to make people disconnect.

    pauped: whats is that pokemon? In my scren is keeping vaporeon
    Mokkah: it's Revenankh
    Mokkah: Fighting/Ghost
    pauped: the name, i only see vaporeon
    Mokkah: stats focused on atk and spdef
    Mokkah: yeah you need to install its sprites to see it
    pauped: cheater
    pauped has left the room.
    Mokkah wins!
  10. Amelia

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    It was the same with Syclant when it came out.

    Edit: Revenankh is incredibly weak against status without shed skin...
  11. Tsukikage

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    I just used Revenankh for the first time. It took out 5/6 of my opponents team while getting 4 or 5 Bulk Ups in.
  12. eric the espeon

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    im testing out the PPToxi staller set

    Revenanhk@leftovers
    Careful
    252 HP/252 Defence/4 Sp.defence
    Shed Skin
    Mean Look
    Toxic
    Spite

    So far it has done nothing... but i have only used it once and I forgot to put leftovers on, if it had had leftovers it would have done well.

    I will try out the BU and NP sets later.
  13. Nilf

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    Revenankh is really easy to get in, and after a couple of bulk ups, STAB Shadow Sneak + Hammer Arm destroy opposing teams. 252 SpDef Ev's means it can take special hits aswell, and easily moonlights them off. Coupled with the fact that you can't explode on the thing to get it out of the way, and the only priority move that can touch it is bullet punch, Revenankh is a bit of a monster.

    I really think Bulk Up is giving it too much. People said with Syclant that after a Tail Glow it was insane, but you could actually KO Syclant pretty easy before it got that Tail Glow in, Revenankh can actually take a hit or two, especially after a bulk up.

    Obviously as it's new, counters still have to be tried and tested against it, so this is really first impressions.
  14. Icy Vegeta

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    This is a log from one of my first battles with Revenankh. His setup was:
    Revenankh (M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Air Lock
    EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 SDef
    Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Bulk Up
    - Hammer Arm
    - Shadow Punch
    - Moonlight
    Code:
    Charizard94 sent out Charizard (lvl 100 Charizard ?).  
    IcyVegeta sent out Ninjask (lvl 100 Ninjask ?).  
    Ninjask used Substitute.  
    Ninjask lost 25% of its health.  
    Ninjask made a substitute!  
    Charizard used Aerial Ace.  
    It's super effective!  
    The substitute took damage for Ninjask!  
    Ninjask's substitute faded!  
    Ninjask's leftovers restored its health a little!  
    Ninjask restored 6% of its health.  
    Ninjask's Speed Boost raised its speed!  
       
    Charizard94: use the velox...  
    Ninjask used Substitute.  
    Ninjask lost 25% of its health.  
    Ninjask made a substitute!  
    Charizard used Dynamicpunch.  
    It's not very effective...  
    The substitute took damage for Ninjask!  
    Ninjask's leftovers restored its health a little!  
    Ninjask restored 6% of its health.  
    Ninjask's Speed Boost raised its speed!  
       
    Charizard94: dont evil... dont evil...  
    Ninjask used Swords Dance.  
    Ninjask's attack was sharply raised.  
    Charizard used Fire Blast.  
    It's super effective!  
    The substitute took damage for Ninjask!  
    Ninjask's substitute faded!  
    Ninjask's leftovers restored its health a little!  
    Ninjask restored 6% of its health.  
    Ninjask's Speed Boost raised its speed!  
       
    Ninjask used Substitute.  
    Ninjask lost 25% of its health.  
    Ninjask made a substitute!  
    Charizard used Fire Blast.  
    It's super effective!  
    The substitute took damage for Ninjask!  
    Ninjask's substitute faded!  
    Ninjask's leftovers restored its health a little!  
    Ninjask restored 6% of its health.  
    Ninjask's Speed Boost raised its speed!  
       
    Ninjask used Substitute.  
    Ninjask lost 25% of its health.  
    Ninjask made a substitute!  
    Charizard used Aerial Ace.  
    It's super effective!  
    A critical hit!  
    The substitute took damage for Ninjask!  
    Ninjask's substitute faded!  
    Ninjask's leftovers restored its health a little!  
    Ninjask restored 6% of its health.  
    Ninjask's Speed Boost raised its speed!  
       
    Charizard94: :)  
    Ninjask used Substitute.  
    Ninjask lost 25% of its health.  
    Ninjask made a substitute!  
    Charizard used Aerial Ace.  
    It's super effective!  
    The substitute took damage for Ninjask!  
    Ninjask's substitute faded!  
    Ninjask's leftovers restored its health a little!  
    Ninjask restored 6% of its health.  
    Ninjask's Speed Boost raised its speed!  
       
    Ninjask used Baton Pass.  
    IcyVegeta switched in Revenankh (lvl 100 Revenankh ?).  
    Charizard used Aerial Ace.  
    It's super effective!  
    Revenankh lost 44% of its health.  
    Revenankh's leftovers restored its health a little!  
    Revenankh restored 6% of its health.  
       
    Revenankh used Shadow Punch.  
    A critical hit!  
    Charizard lost 100% of its health.  
    Charizard94's Charizard fainted.  
    Revenankh's leftovers restored its health a little!  
    Revenankh restored 6% of its health.  
       
    Charizard94 switched in Arceus (lvl 60 Arceus).  
    Charizard94: retry chsarizard, go arceus!  
    Revenankh used Hammer Arm.  
    It's super effective!  
    Arceus lost 100% of its health.  
    Charizard94's Arceus fainted.  
    Revenankh's speed was lowered.  
    Revenankh's leftovers restored its health a little!  
    Revenankh restored 6% of its health.  
       
    Charizard94 switched in Venusaur (lvl 74 Venusaur ?).  
    Revenankh used Shadow Punch.  
    Venusaur lost 80% of its health.  
    Venusaur used Attract.  
    But it failed!  
    Revenankh's leftovers restored its health a little!  
    Revenankh restored 6% of its health.  
       
    Revenankh used Shadow Punch.  
    Venusaur lost 20% of its health.  
    Charizard94's Venusaur fainted.  
    Revenankh's leftovers restored its health a little!  
    Revenankh restored 6% of its health.  
       
    Charizard94 switched in Infernape (lvl 73 Infernape ?).  
    angelgirl has entered the room.  
    hybridherp has entered the room.  
    Charizard94: see with the fire!  
    Revenankh used Shadow Punch.  
    Infernape lost 93% of its health.  
    Infernape used Blast Burn.  
    Revenankh lost 63% of its health.  
    Revenankh's leftovers restored its health a little!  
    Revenankh restored 6% of its health.  
       
    Revenankh used Shadow Punch.  
    Infernape lost 7% of its health.  
    Charizard94's Infernape fainted.  
    Revenankh's leftovers restored its health a little!  
    Revenankh restored 6% of its health.  
       
    Charizard94 switched in Bulbasaur (lvl 89 Bulbasaur ?).  
    angelgirl has left the room.  
    hybridherp: Icy, I'm almost ready  
    Revenankh used Moonlight.  
    Revenankh restored 50% of its health.  
    Bulbasaur used Amnesia.  
    Bulbasaur's special defence was sharply raised.  
    Revenankh's leftovers restored its health a little!  
    Revenankh restored 6% of its health.  
       
    Revenankh used Shadow Punch.  
    Bulbasaur lost 100% of its health.  
    Charizard94's Bulbasaur fainted.  
    Revenankh's leftovers restored its health a little!  
    Revenankh restored 6% of its health.  
       
    hybridherp has left the room.  
    Charizard94 switched in Charmander (lvl 90 Charmander ?).  
    Revenankh used Shadow Punch.  
    Charmander lost 100% of its health.  
    Charizard94's Charmander fainted.  
    IcyVegeta wins!  
    IcyVegeta: gg  
    Charizard94 has left the room.  
    
    So, as you can see, it can be formiddible with BO or stats passed as a sweeper.
  15. Dane

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    You passed:
    +6 Speed
    +2 Attack

    Of course it's going to freaking sweep everything. Not only that, but your opponent was an idiot. Who Dynamic Punches a Ninjask with their Charizard who also has Fire Blast and Aerial Ace? And what's up with battling a level 100 Revenankh against lvl 60 Arceus with fighting weak, 74 Venusaur with attract, 73 Infernape with blast burn, 89 Bulbasaur with amnesia, and 90 Charmander.

    Plus, you didn't even heal after you got Blaze Burned, despite having a free turn. That's the worst way to try and say something is powerful.
  16. X-Trader

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    Dane said it all! But man, was that match funny, and how you talked about it, all I have to say is: "LoL"
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    I really dont see how this doesn't apply to most pokemon when its been passed a Swords Dance and a couple Speed boosts. Level balance also doesnt help much but your opponent was using Bulbasaurs and Charmanders so i doubt it mattered anyway =/

    Edit: Beaten to the post...
  18. Wayff

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    Currently testing this...

    Revenankh @ Leftovers
    Ability: Air Lock
    EVs: 124 HP/108 Atk/52 Def/8 Spd/176 SDef
    Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Moonlight
    - Hammer Arm
    - Ice Punch/Power Whip/Earthquake
    - Knock Off

    Hammer Arm provided me with good STAB, and let me kill Blissey. 8 speed lets me outspeed 4 speed base 65s. 216 SpDef gave me a good 310 Special Defence, while 108 attack gave me a good 300 Attack. 124 HP give you a good Leftovers number. Finally, I dumped the rest into Defence.

    HP gave me 352 HP, a good Leftovers number. Ice Punch lets you beat Gliscor, Power Whip lets you beat Swampert, and Earthquake lets you OHKO Heatran switch ins.
  19. Deck Knight

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    If you've seen the debate threads you know what I'm running.

    Revenankh @ Leftovers
    Air Lock, Careful (+SDef, -SA)
    ~ Substitute
    ~ Bulk Up
    ~ Focus Punch
    ~ Shadow Sneak

    If you don't have an effective way to break its Subs, it sets up and proceeds to slaughter an entire team. I'm still working out the best EV's, but thus far I have maxed HP and split the rest between Attack and Defense.
  20. sbc

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    I've played quite a few battles with it, and it counters fighters really well. I've used the bulk up/shadow sneak/hammer arm/moonlight and its swept a few people that are unprepared. I think the balance is better with Revenankh than Syclant, this looks to be a solid OU pokemon. Definitely counterable but still a pain.
  21. KoA

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    Yeah, if you aren't packing any SE moves, Rev is the last thing you want to see. It can take out half or more of your team if you don't plan accordingly.
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    Oh, and if your using meta or hera, switch out immediately
  23. Mekkah

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    This thing seems like a great balancing force so far. A better Blissey counter than Hariyama (really saying something), good against Tyranitar and Lucario as well...Bulk Up was the reason it was made so it should not be taken away. I like using it.
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    Don't forget that Heracross's most common moves Stone Edge, Facade, CC and Megahorn don't even scratch it.
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    The server is rocking today! There have been 50-70 users all day long and everyone is remaining very civilized. Lots of people are playing Revenankh and not many are complaining about it. This pokemon is rolling out much easier than I expected. I look forward to seeing some warstories soon!

    PS: In my first battle AGAINST a Revenankh, I used Weezing and did quite well against it. I may mention it as a counter in the analysis thread.
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