Rhyperior (Analysis)

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[Overview]

<p>Rhyperior is the perfect example of a Pokemon that is heavily unbalanced. On one hand, its physical stats are immense, with both its Attack and Defense stats topping out at over 130 each. Unfortunately, its special stats do not live up to the same standards, and this, in conjunction with a typing that is a double edged sword, is what relegates it to the UU tier.</p>

<p>Don't get me wrong though, Rhyperior is by no means a bad Pokemon. Its Rock/Ground typing gives Rhyperior perhaps the best dual STAB in the game, and coming off a base 140 Attack stat, Stone Edge and Earthquake will dent almost anything. Rhyperior's ability Solid Rock allows it to take many hits that it wouldn't be able to take without it, including Staraptor's Close Combat and weaker Grass- and Water-type attacks, such as Azumarill's Aqua Jet. Rhyperior's versatility is also a boon to it, as when it switches in, it can be difficult to guess what set it may be running, giving it some unpredictability. Rhyperior can run offensive or defensive sets utilizing Substitute or Rock Polish
, respectively. All in all, Rhyperior is a great Pokemon, and can find a place on nearly any team.</p>

[SET]
name: Tank
move 1: Substitute / Stealth Rock
move 2: Earthquake / Focus Punch
move 3: Rock Blast / Stone Edge
move 4: Megahorn
item: Leftovers
ability: Solid Rock
nature: Adamant
evs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Rhyperior's standard set is one that abuses its physical stats to the max. Rhyperior is able to take almost any physical attack, and it can deal out some huge damage in return. The set itself is fairly standard; Substitute eases prediction for Rhyperior, and it can easily set it up as a Pokemon such as Staraptor, switches out. The other moves on the set provide perfect coverage, and they allow Rhyperior to do its job in tanking damage and dishing it out. Earthquake is obligatory, as a 100 base power STAB move with no drawbacks is perfect for Rhyperior. It will OHKO almost any Pokemon that takes super effective damage from it, while also giving a chance to 2HKO Eviolite Chansey, a feat that shows how powerful Rhyperior really is.</p>

<p>Rhyperior's other moves, Rock Blast and Megahorn, are for coverage. Rock Blast allows Rhyperior to break Substitutes, while being a remarkably powerful move in its own right. Megahorn is powerful too, and it provides super effective coverage on Pokemon such as Celebi that would otherwise switch in
and try to setup on Rhyperior.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Rhyperior can run many moves on this set, and all of them to great effect. Stealth Rock is an excellent move, and Rhyperior has the ability to abuse it to it fullest. It can easily come in on a physical move, tank the hit, and then set up Stealth Rock as the opposing Pokemon switches out. Focus Punch is another great move for this set, as it has the ability to OHKO Chansey, while Chansey can avoid being 2HKOed by Earthquake thanks to Softboiled or Wish and Protect. Focus Punch can also do good damage against the Steel-types that Earthquake already hits, and it has the same base power as a STABed Earthquake, meaning that it is about as good on the whole. Stone Edge can also be used thanks to its more consistent power and high critical hit ratio, which can really help Rhyperior in "do or die" moments. However, it lacks the ability to break Substitutes and still cause damage to the Pokemon, which is preferred on this more defensive set.</p>

<p>The EVs for this set can be tweaked in many different ways. More Defense can be used, as it allows Rhyperior to take on Pokemon such as Staraptor without even breaking a sweat, and it enables Rhyperior to really abuse its humongous Defense stat. Special Defense EVs can also be allocated, as it helps Rhyperior in tanking resisted special hits, such as Fire Blast from mixed Houndoom. Also, when coupled with
sandstorm support, this Special Defense boost can really go a long way, making Rhyperior extremely bulky on both sides. Feel free to play around with the EV spread as needed, as most options will work like a charm.</p>

<p>Rhyperior is obviously countered by special Grass- and Water-types, with their STAB attacks hitting Rhyperior for 4x super effective damage. Slowbro is the perfect counter to Rhyperior, as its huge defensive bulk allows it to tank even a super effective Megahorn, and it can retaliate with a Scald that will threaten a burn and easily 2HKO Rhyperior. Bulky Grass-types
, such as Celebi and Shaymin, that can hit Rhyperior with STAB attacks will also have almost no problem dealing with it, though they should be wary of switching into Megahorn. Other physical walls can stop Rhyperior in its tracks. Donphan is a prime example of such, and it can even spin away Stealth Rock if Rhyperior chooses to utilize the move.</p>

<p>Rhyperior really needs teammates that can switch into the aforementioned threats with impunity. A special wall is extremely helpful, as it helps to patch up Rhyperior's mediocre Special Defense stat. Chansey is a great option, as it does this with ease, and it can easily take on the abundant Grass- and Water-types without breaking a sweat. A Grass-type of your own is helpful, as it is able to take on Water- and Ground-types without difficulty, and it can also wall most Grass-types. Defensive Celebi is perhaps the best option, as Grass Knot or Leaf Storm will make short work of the aforementioned threats to Rhyperior, and Celebi can also Toxic or
paralyze a Grass-type, rendering it less useful. Finally, any Pokemon that can do well when Scarf Staraptor is down is a great teammate, as Rhyperior is able to deal with Staraptor without difficulty. Azelf is a prime example of such, as it cannot be easily revenge killed when Staraptor is down, allowing it to sweep without difficulty.</p>

[SET]
name: Rock Polish
move 1: Rock Polish
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Stone Edge / Rock Blast
move 4: Megahorn
item: Life Orb
ability: Solid Rock
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>As stated in the overview, Rhyperior has two excellent physical stats, and it is only held back by its poor Speed and awful Special Defense stat. This set attempts to remedy both issues, as with a Rock Polish boost, Rhyperior becomes quite fast, and it is very difficult to abuse its low Special Defense
when it can outspeed its usual counters, such as Defensive Celebi and Life Orb Shaymin. This set is a perfect late-game cleaner, as when Rhyperior's checks and counters are removed, it is easy to set up a Rock Polish and win the game, thanks to Rhyperior's huge base 140 Attack stat.</p>

<p>The moves on this set are all fairly straightforward. Rock Polish provides Rhyperior the boost to its Speed that it really needs, as well as being the crux of this set. Earthquake is an obligatory attack for Rhyperior, as with STAB and great coverage, it can cause huge damage to many common Pokemon. Stone Edge is more or less the same in that respect,
and complements Earthquake perfectly. The last move on the set, Megahorn, completes the coverage that Rhyperior needs, and it allows Rhyperior to score KOs on Celebi, Shaymin, and weakened Slowbro.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Rhyperior has a few other options that it can utilize on this set. First off, Aqua Tail allows Rhyperior to finish off weakened Ground-types, such as Donphan,
; however, Megahorn is preferred for its ability to OHKO Celebi and Shaymin, as well as doing huge damage to Slowbro, Rhyperior's number one counter. Substitute can be used to ease prediction, and it may allow Rhyperior to gain an extra boost, meaning that it can outspeed Pokemon such as Choice Scarf Flygon and Choice Scarf Staraptor. Megahorn, as stated before though, is perhaps the better option, as it enables Rhyperior to finish off weakened Slowbro, while KOing most common Grass-types. Swords Dance can be used, since if Rhyperior can get both boosts almost nothing will be able to stop it. Regarding items, Leftovers can be used over Life Orb to grant Rhyperior some more survivability, but the power boost from Life Orb is needed to allow Rhyperior to gain crucial KOs on Defensive Shaymin and weakened Slowbro.</p>

<p>This Rhyperior set has trouble with fast Choice Scarfers, as they can revenge kill it when it is at low enough HP. Flygon can revenge kill Rhyperior with Earthquake, although Rhyperior must be weakened enough
due to Solid Rock. Scarf Shaymin is perhaps a better example, as a STAB Seed Flare always KOes Rhyperior. Also, physically bulky Pokemon such as Slowbro (who must be on high health due to Megahorn) and Donphan can take on Rhyperior, since without an Attack boost, it isn't exceedingly powerful.</p>

<p>To take on the Choice Scarfers, the obvious choice is Wobbuffet. Wobbuffet can switch in on almost any
Scarfer thanks to its humongous HP stat, and then proceed to KO it with either Counter or Mirror Coat. Wobbuffet can also use Tickle on Slowbro, so that it is KOed by a Pursuit from Spiritomb, Escavalier, or Houndoom. Any Pokemon that can utilize Pursuit effectively is acceptable, so don't worry about using any of the aforementioned three specifically. Grass-types that can deal with Donphan and Slowbro such as Celebi, Shaymin, and Roserade are all great teammates for this Rhyperior. Roserade can also set up Toxic Spikes, which will put a timer on bulky Water-, Grass-, and Ground-types as soon as they switch in.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Band
move 1: Stone Edge
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Megahorn
move 4: Aqua Tail / Avalanche
item: Choice Band
ability: Solid Rock
nature: Adamant
evs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This Rhyperior
is more powerful than a wrecking ball on steroids. A hit from an Earthquake or Stone Edge will almost always mean a KO, unless the Pokemon on the receiving end of the attack is either extremely bulky or is immune or resistant to the move. However, even if the Pokemon taking the attack has extremely good bulk, such as Slowbro or Donphan, it can still be 2HKOed by the appropriate super effective coverage move. In short, this Rhyperior is truly a monster, only rivaled in power by Haxorus, Darmanitan, and Chandelure, although they are locked away in OU. If you are looking for some true power in UU, then you have found your Pokemon.</p>

<p>The moves on this set are fairly straightforward. Rhyperior was blessed with an amazing dual STAB typing, and this set uses that to its advantage. Both Earthquake and Stone Edge have 100 base power, making them obligatory options for the set. Megahorn is the next move on the set, as it does huge damage to Slowbro, easily 2HKOing it. Surprisingly, Slowbro is actually outsped by Rhyperior, meaning that Slowbro has no chance of scoring a burn or crippling Rhyperior
if it switches into Megahorn. Aqua Tail, the final move on this set can be used for opposing Rhyperior, as well as Donphan that can take almost any attack on the set.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Choice Band Rhyperior is relatively simple. Switch in, click a move, kill something, switch out. Other options for this set are also simple. Rock Blast can be used
to break through Substitutes, but Stone Edge is generally more reliable, as hitting only twice is very underwhelming. More HP EVs can be added over Speed to make Rhyperior really bulky, but the Speed is helpful when up against Chansey and other base 50s. On the other hand, Rhyperior can run more Speed to outspeed base 70s with no investment, but this is kind of pointless since Rhyperior needs its bulk.</p>

<p>There is no true counter to this Rhyperior,
because if any Pokemon switches in on the wrong move, it is at least 2HKOed. For example, you can bring in your Celebi to take an Earthquake, but if it switches in on a Megahorn, the Celebi is certainly dead. Prediction is the only way to beat this Rhyperior. By switching in on resistances, or keeping Rhyperior from switching in, you will have a much easier time countering this Pokemon.</p>

<p>In terms of teammates, Rhyperior needs free switch-ins. Pokemon that can use U-turn work well, with Azelf and Staraptor being prime examples of such. Also, Pokemon that can lure out physical attacks for Rhyperior to switch in on are good teammates. Pokemon with bad physical defense, such as Alakazam, work well in this position.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Rhyperior does not have many other options out of those listed. A Swords Dance set can be slightly effective, as any move from Rhyperior that has been boosted by Swords Dance will do ridiculous amounts of damage. Rhyperior is too slow to use this effectively though,
and is easily revenge killed by the likes of Shaymin and Celebi. It can, however, score a surprise KO on Slowbro and Donphan, if it's been EVed to outspeed them both. That set can also work well under Trick Room or Tailwind support to fix Rhyperior's abysmal Speed stat. In fact, almost any set appreciates Trick Room support, as under it, Rhyperior can get some Speed that can really help it to sweep.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>As stated many times before, Grass-, Water-, and Ground-types are the key to beating Rhyperior. Slowbro has been listed throughout, as all it really fears is a Choice Band Megahorn. A Megahorn from any other set can be shrugged off, and Slowbro can just regain back its health with Regenerator. Celebi and Shaymin are more or less in the same boat, although unless they are defensively EVed, both are going to be taking a lot from Megahorn, while Celebi will more often than not be OHKOed. Donphan is an excellent counter, as it takes pittance from almost any attack, other than Aqua Tail. Surprisingly enough, opposing Rhyperior can also work well thanks to Solid Rock, but they must beware of Aqua Tail. Finally, anything with a Special Grass- or Water-type move that can get in safely is almost guaranteed a KO on Rhyperior, but it must be careful of switching in.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Rhyperior gets Reckless in the Dream World. This may sound like an excellent ability, but unfortunately, Rhyperior does not have access to the moves to abuse it. Double-Edge can be used, but other than that, it is outclassed by Solid Rock, which really helps Rhyperior by enhancing its ability to take hits.</p>
 
A rock polishing set has proven itself time and time again for me.

Set: Rock Polish
Move1: Rock Polish
Move2: Megahorn
Move3: Stone Edge
Move4: Earthquake
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Sp, 4 Hp

This set is a great physical sweeper. Megahorn can be swiched for something else, but isn't recomended. Rhyperior does get dual STAB for the infamous EdgeQuake combo, but at the cost of having two 4x weaknesses, which is somewhat weakened by the awesome ability Solid Rock.
This set is very easy to use and set up: Keep Rhyperior at good health for most of the game. When the opposing teams counters are dealt with, switch in Rhyperior when it's safe, Rock Polish, then destroy the rest of the opposing team with his huge 140 base attack, which is nothing to scoff at.
 

breh

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also needs a Substitute set, probably its best asset.

Essentially the set mentioned above with Sub in place of RP and more bulky EVs. You can also choose to invest in enough speed to beat Chansey (it can't break your subs and you get a free attacking turn).
 

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[SET]
name: Rest Talk
move 1: Rest
move 2: Sleep Talk
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Rock Blast
item: Leftovers
ability: Solid Rock
nature: Impish
evs: 244 HP / 184 Def / 72 SpD

This is a great defensive set for Rhyperior. Its massive Defense and HP lets it wall shit like Victini and Staraptor, (watch out for Close Combat) And it has a pseudo EdgeQuake coming off a 318 Attack stat with no investment. Rock Blast breaks subs, and is more powerful with 5 hits, and has better accuracy and PP.

Hippopotas is a great partner because it raises Rhyperior's Special Defense. That makes it very difficult to take down on both sides, thanks to Solid Rock. Celebi makes a cool partner to take Water, Grass, and Fighting attacks. Rhyperior can take Fire moves and is a pretty good switch in to anything with U-turn.
 
I'm thinking: Standard (Sub / Stealth Rock slashed), Choice Band, Rock Polish, Restalk if Staraptor isn't banned.
 
Rock Blast deserves a slash next to Stone Edge on Standard, if not the slash over it. It's great for breaking subs and Focus Sashes and has a lot more utility over Stone Edge since it grabs a lot of the same KOs for more accuracy.

Also:

[SET]
name: Choice Band
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Stone Edge
move 3: Megahorn
move 4: Aqua Tail / Rock Blast
item: Choice Band
ability: Solid Rock
evs: 92 HP / 252 Atk / 164 Spe

Bit of a C/P from the 4th gen analysis since its just as viable this gen. Aqua Tail nearly gets an OHKO on Donphan.

Speaking of which, you can also run a perfectly fine offensive set with max HP and attack, with the same moves as on the defensive set (minus Roar). Its viable since it still can take on Staraptor with ease (3HKO with Close Combat) while taking on quite a few more threats and nabbing KOs easier.
 

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SubPunch deffo needs a set, it really eases prediction and actually has great coverage.

Sub
Focus Punch
Rock Blast
Megahorn

Tears shit up from behind a sub. Not sure about EVs but im assuming max hp attack
 

breh

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lol, geez mooo why are you such a fan of rock blast?

anyway, how does that do any better against donphan?
 

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Rock Blast breaks subs, has better accuracy, and has a chance to be more powerful than Stone Edge. More PP is nice too.

No Rhyperior is gonna do that good against a Donphan, just use a grass type as a partner.
 

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Rock Blast > Stone Edge on the Defensive and ResTalk sets for the reasons that Moo listed. Also slash Toxic in the fourth slot on the Defensive set to hit stuff like Slowbro. Remove Substitute from the Defensive set. Also I don't see why the Attack EVs are necessary there but I'll let another QC member weigh in on it.

Also remove Aqua Tail from the Rock Polish set and just mention it in AC.

EDIT: Idk if ResTalk is deserving of a set really, it just kind of sits there and takes on some physical attackers. At least the regular defensive set can afford to lay rocks. I'd remove it.
 

breh

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yeah, it really should be impish. it's laughable, but Rhyperior actually does use that speed at times.

also, why isn't there a separate rhyperior set with max attack and max HP? it plays differently from defensive. hell, the attack difference between your set and adamant max attack is something like an expert belt boost.
 

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I have concerns about the SubPunch set as well. Earthquake and Focus Punch offer extremely redundant coverage, there's no reason to have both. I think the set should be scrapped and replaced with something like this:

SubPerior
Rhyperior @ Leftovers
160 HP/252 Atk/96 Spe
Adamant
-Substitute
-Earthquake/Focus Punch
-Rock Blast/Stone Edge
-Megahorn

Make sure you note that the only advantage of Focus Punch over Earthquake is that it ohkos Chansey, whereas Earthquake doesn't 2hko (jesus, how sad is that). Megahorn is an absolute necessity, and I like Rock Blast so much better than Stone Edge but both are viable. The Spe let you sub on Chansey before it Toxics you.
 

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Ok, done. I put Focus Punch as the first option though, as it hits the same things for the same BP, while OHKOing Chansey
 

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Ok, done. I put Focus Punch as the first option though, as it hits the same things for the same BP, while OHKOing Chansey
It does not. Focus Punch leaves you walled by Nidoqueen, Nidoking, and Qwilfish. But I don't care if it's the first option, as long as you mention the previous.
 

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dont forget to mention evs to outpace base 55s and lower; this includes omastar, chansey, and donphan. this should be stressed in offensively inclined sets more
 

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Make sure you note that the only advantage of Focus Punch over Earthquake is that it ohkos Chansey, whereas Earthquake doesn't 2hko (jesus, how sad is that).
What?

Focus Punch: 150 Base Power * 2 Super Effective = 300 Base Power.
Earthquake: 100 Base Power * 1.5 STAB * 2 turns = 300 Base Power.

There's no Expert Belt boost either and no Lefties to bring Chansey's HP back up.

Focus Punch only KOes 0/252 Calm Chansey (I dunno standard spread so I'm just covering all the bases) with SR down while it KOes 0/252 Bold Chansey 33% of the time with SR down. If it's 252/252 Bold, you're not KOing without Spikes.
 

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What?

Focus Punch: 150 Base Power * 2 Super Effective = 300 Base Power.
Earthquake: 100 Base Power * 1.5 STAB * 2 turns = 300 Base Power.

There's no Expert Belt boost either and no Lefties to bring Chansey's HP back up.

Focus Punch only KOes 0/252 Calm Chansey (I dunno standard spread so I'm just covering all the bases) with SR down while it KOes 0/252 Bold Chansey 33% of the time with SR down. If it's 252/252 Bold, you're not KOing without Spikes.
If Chansey softboileds on your EQ, it heals more than you can damage, moving it out of 2hko range. Since Focus Punch hits all at once, it ohkos. That's what I was talking about.
You're right though, it doesn't ohko the standard spread (252/252 Bold), which is even sadder...
 
[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Rock Blast / Stone Edge
move 4: Megahorn / Roar
item: Leftovers
ability: Solid Rock
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 132 Atk / 124 Def
Slash Toxic in the last slot, otherwise good.
[SET]
name: Rock Polish
move 1: Rock Polish
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Stone Edge / Rock Blast
move 4: Megahorn
item: Life Orb
ability: Solid Rock
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Nothing to say here, good.

[SET]
name: Substitute
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Focus Punch / Earthquake
move 3: Rock Blast / Stone Edge
move 4: Megahorn
item: Leftovers
ability: Solid Rock
nature: Adamant
evs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spe
I don't like this set...you miss out on so many options besides substitute and it basically uses the same set:

[SET]
name: Standard
move 1: Substitute / Stealth Rock
move 2: Focus Punch / Earthquake
move 3: Rock Blast / Stone Edge
move 4: Megahorn
item: Leftovers
ability: Solid Rock
nature: Adamant
evs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spe

You're adding one slash and changing the name instead of adding another set. You just mention Focus Punch needs Substitute, so you need to use Earthquake if you use Stealth Rock.

[SET]
name: Choice Band
move 1: Stone Edge
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Megahorn
move 4: Aqua Tail / Rock Blast
item: Choice Band
ability: Solid Rock
nature: Adamant
evs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spe
Looks good, just mention Avalanche (with max HP instead of Speed - make sure you're slower than Donphan) to OHKO Flygon and very likely OHKO Donphan after rocks (because of Sturdy). It also nearly OHKOes Celebi (81% minimum) and the rare Gligar. (Note: also OHKOes Zapdos and other Flying-types that Stone Edge hits.
 

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I reallly want to see a 252 HP / 252 Atk spread for the Defensive set at least in AC as Breludicolo stated. Rhyperior really doesn't need that much Defense to tank Staraptor, and the power difference from 132 to 252 is actually quite noticeable (I can't think of any KOs off the top of my head but I know they're there). Really that set is played as two different tanks, a more defensive one and a more offensive one depending on the spread.

Also, be sure to mention a full defensive spread like either 252 HP / 252 Def or 252 HP / 252 SpD in that set too with sandstorm conditions. Just in AC.

Good grief Rhyperior is surprisingly versatile...
 

breh

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actually, I've been using the spread Flareblitz posted and it really is a lot better. The subs are sliiiightly smaller, but you outspeed donphan and chansey; the latter you set up on without it poisoning you (which is a huge advantage) and the former you can KO altogether if it's at low health.

also, avalanche is not speed-based; it always goes last. thus, it is pointless to make it slower than donphan.
 

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