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Gen 3 [RMT] TSS

Discussion in 'Ruins of Alph' started by HUARGH, Apr 6, 2013.

  1. HUARGH

    HUARGH

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    The Team
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    Plot: Nothing really out of the ordinary. This team is unique in the sense that it doesn't use a bulky water, but rather relies on swapping and momentum. The keen observer may have noticed that 4 of my 6 pokemon are weak to electric and/or ice, with Gengar not really being able to take special hits as well. Swampert would be a solution here, but would open up other holes in my team - I would have to replace Gengar, so there would be no way to stop rapid spin plus I'd be less able to hurt water types and I would lose hypnosis. I really like this team but I feel it has a few problems, help is welcome.

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    Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Giga Drain
    - Hypnosis
    - Ice Punch
    - Thunderbolt

    Although lead Gengar can't utilize Hypnosis as well as, say, Milotic, it is still very powerful. Giga Drain kills Swampert.

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    Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP / 216 Atk / 40 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Focus Punch
    - Hidden Power [Bug]
    - Rock Slide
    - Substitute

    Substitute/FPunch because I found that to be the most effective on stall teams. 40 Spd puts it at 167. Used to be Tyraniboah with Pursuit, but I really didn't find it that effective.

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    Flygon (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Blast
    - Substitute
    - Toxic

    Fire Blast used to be HP Bug, but Forretress was ruining my day.

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    Aerodactyl (F) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Rock Head
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Double-Edge
    - Earthquake
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    - Rock Slide

    Thinking of making it Adamant, other than that, nothing to see here. Moving on.

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    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP / 32 Spd / 224 SDef
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Thunderbolt

    Specially defensive Zapdos with rest talk, the closest I got to a special wall.

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    Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 12 Spd / 60 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Spikes
    - Whirlwind

    Don't really feel the need for an offensive move.
  2. Jorgen

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    If Pert is replacing anything on this team, it's that Flygon. It's way better for you defensively; it's tanking Rock Slides for way longer than your Flygon, it can actually deal with Salamence, and it can (kind of) tank BoltBeam.
  3. Endeby

    Endeby formerly Andeby

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    If you add Swampert, you should consider going with Roar>HP Ice on Zapdos. That way, you`ll really rack up Spikes damage. I would also lead with Swampert or Roar Zapdos, as you really don`t want to lose Gengar to Pursuit Tar leads if your Hypnosis miss.

    Raikou and even Jolteon has the potential to became big threats against your team. Definitely stick with Jolly on Aerodactyl.
  4. HUARGH

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    Should I add Fire Punch on Gengar to deal with Forretress if I swap out Flygon for Swampert? Keep in mind that I have no way to remove or prevent spikes, HP Ghost Forretress will eventually win against Gengar (even if you give Gengar Fire Punch - you are going to swap in Gengar against Forretress, Forretress doesn't have to take any attacks). With Fire Punch, at least Forretress will have to swap out 100% (or I can get a lucky KO on the unsuspecting opponent) of the time even if he predicts Gengar coming in and nails him with HP Ghost on the switch; something Forretress doesn't have to do if Gengar has other moves as HP Ghost - even with no attack EVs - is a 2HKO in sand against nearly every Gengar bar the crazy defensive whereas Thunderbolt isn't even a 3HKO against specially defensive Forretress (not even with my 252 sp.attk modest Gengar). With 3 layers of spikes on the field, Swampert and Tyranitar are eventually going to die.

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