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Gen 3 RoA Speed CCAT - [DONE]

Discussion in 'Ruins of Alph' started by sandshrewz, Mar 18, 2013.

  1. BKC

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  2. Ryanor

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    Then what set is gonna be used on Moltres?
  3. sandshrewz

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    That will be revisited in the coming step :)
  4. sandshrewz

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    Step 4: Teammates, Moltres, and Gengar refining

    Pocket 5
    Remedy 1
    There wasn't a lot of votes :( but, moving on~ Here's what we have so far:

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    Moltres @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 40 HP / 252 SAtk / 216 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Fire Blast
    - Hidden Power Ice
    - Sunny Day
    - Morning Sun

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    Metagross @ Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 188 HP / 160 Atk / 160 SpA
    Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
    - Psychic
    - Hidden Power Fire
    - Meteor Mash
    - Explosion

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    Gengar @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 40 Atk / 216 SpA / 252 Spe
    Hasty Nature
    - Thunderbolt
    - Ice Punch
    - Explosion
    - Hypnosis / Will-O-Wisp / Hidden Power [Water] / Focus Punch

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    Dugtrio @ Choice Band
    Trait: Arena Trap
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Jolly or Adamant
    - Earthquake
    - Rock Slide
    - Hidden Power [Bug]
    - Aerial Ace

    Playstyle: Offense

    Gonna keep chugging along~~~ Submit either 1 or 2 Pokemon~ Also feel free to re-submit an edited version of Moltres, as long as it's only minor edit(s)! We're revisting Moltres for this step as well :) Also, I see that Gengar's fourth move consist of slashes; do nominate the fourth move for Gengar as well if you can decide what fits with the teammates you're submitting. If not, we can do that in the next step. This step lasts ~48 hours. Thanks! :)
  5. Reymedy

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    Ahm, well, let's try again.

    First, I think we should just take Sir's EVs on Dugtrio.
    For Gengar we must change those EVs, first because Gengar does not need to run max speed, especially for the role Pocket gave him. I don't have my 3rd gen calculator available right now, so I may propose a different later, but I bet some people will have a better spread already. Iirc, you need around two hundreds EVs in Atk to not miss crucial KOs.

    I'm gonna be lazy, and nominate this :

    It has a great defensive synergy with everything here, moreover CMPass Celebi gives a lot of tempo to offensive teams. It works wonder with trappers, and can give to Gengar the boost he needs to sweep since he will be investing in Atk. Thus, Gengar will attract Blissey perfectly, and force the Special Sponge to come out.
    You boost along with Bulky Water, blabla... Works great with Moltres and can pass boosts etc...

    I believe Hypnosis could be the best last move on Gengar, and it would be also cool to fit WillOWisp somewhere on Moltres.
  6. Ryanor

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    Ok, here is my suggestion:

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    Heracross @ Choice Band
    Trait: Guts
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Megahorn
    - Brick Break
    - Rock Slide
    - Sleep Talk / Focus Punch

    At this point this team needs something that threatens CurseLax and Bulky Waters without losing offensive power. Otherwise this team depends on Explosion to kill these Pokemon, and that's pretty risky. Heracross does it with ease and Moltres helps a lot because he can burn things such as Salamence or Gyarados. Plus, when the sun is up he is not afraid of things like offensive Cune, thanks to his pseudo-resistance.
  7. sandshrewz

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    Giving an extension by about a day due to the lack of submissions~ :o
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    Step 4: Teammates, Moltres, and Gengar refining Voting

    D: Let's move on then :c


    Both have made the same changes to Gengar and Moltres :o Dugtrio will have Sir's EV spread. Gengar's fourth move will therefore be Hypnosis. However, I'm going to let Toxic and Hidden Power Grass slide in as submissions as well. For the teammate vote:
    Remedy
    Ryanor
    For Moltres's move:
    Will-O-Wisp
    Toxic
    Hidden Power Grass

    Voting will last ~24 hours. Let us complete this guys! :)
  9. Jorgen

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    Remedy EDIT: assuming we can use Psychic > Grass move. Mostly because I feel like, without another decent answer to opposing Gengar, this team can struggle. I'm a bit more worried about that than letting Skarm/Forr in to Spike, hence why I'm sticking with this over Sir's.

    Will-O-Wisp for Moltres's move.
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    I agree that Calm Mind Baton Pass Celebi should be on this team. However, I don't like the set that Reymedy suggests. We have Dugtrio to to trap Tyranitar so Psychic is without a doubt the better option if we're going for a Recover Baton Pass Celebi.

    Celebi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 240 HP / 128 Def / 140 Spd
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Giga Drain
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Calm Mind

    I feel this Celebi works for our team since it doesn't make us Spikes weak. If we're not Spikes weak, then we don't have to waste a teamslot on something like a Rapid Spinner. Enough Speed to outspeed Heracross and the rest in HP and Defense. Passing Calm Minds to Mixed Metagross, Gengar, and Moltres, are obviously all good. Getting a free switch to Dug is good too.
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    Added in Sir's submission since it wasn't too late. Jorgen / Hyperbeem feel free to change your votes if you want to~
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    SIR LOSE

    will-o-wisp (you guys are gonna regret mono attacker moltres though...)
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    lol why are we getting rid of an attacking move ... Why not just remove Morning Sun?
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    that's what i said. or remove sunny day and put it somewhere else which frees up 2 attacks + status + recovery for moltres n_n
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    keep sunny day remove morning sun
    moltres isn't super strong w/o sun
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    O_k we'll vote on which move to replace on Moltres in the next step then! Keep the votes coming in :)
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    Step 5: Final Teammate

    Sir and Will-O-Wisp!! Here's what we have again!

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    Moltres @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 40 HP / 252 SAtk / 216 Spd
    Modest Nature
    - Fire Blast
    - Hidden Power Ice
    - Sunny Day
    - Morning Sun
    >Will-O-Wisp somewhere

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    Metagross @ Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 188 HP / 160 Atk / 160 SpA
    Brave Nature
    - Psychic
    - Hidden Power Fire
    - Meteor Mash
    - Explosion

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    Gengar @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 40 Atk / 216 SpA / 252 Spe
    Hasty Nature
    - Thunderbolt
    - Ice Punch
    - Explosion
    - Hypnosis

    [​IMG]
    Dugtrio @ Choice Band
    Trait: Arena Trap
    EVs: 8 HP / 208 Atk / 40 SDef / 252 Spd
    Jolly or Adamant
    - Earthquake
    - Rock Slide
    - Hidden Power [Bug]
    - Aerial Ace

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    Celebi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 240 HP / 128 Def / 140 Spd
    Bold Nature
    - Baton Pass
    - Giga Drain
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Calm Mind

    Nominate the 6th and final teammate! We'll vote the move to change on Moltres along with the final teammate. This step lasts ~48 hours! Don't forget we can refine a bit after the 6th teammate if need be :) We're finishing!!
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    Looking at our team so far we're weak to Dragon Dance Mence(can set up on celebi and dugtrio), Gengar(we have nothing to take status or its attacks), and having another Dragon Dance Tyranitar answer is necessary. I don't have a suggestion yet but I'm sure we can think of something

    reserving defensive p2

    Porygon2 @ Leftovers
    Trait: Trace
    EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Thunderbolt
    - Ice Beam
    - Recover
    - Thunder Wave

    This seems to be the best fit for our team. Beats Mence, paralyzes tyranitar, and is a okay check to gengar, especially in tandem with Lum Berry METAGROS OOPS.

    I also think that Will-O-Wisp > Morning Sun.
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    ahhhhh. I need at least one more submission or a general consensus on Sir's post. Also feel free to discuss the lead Pokemon and whether a minor change is needed for it! :)

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