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Roserade running physical sets

Discussion in 'BW UU' started by Cheatingtaco, Apr 2, 2013.

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  1. Cheatingtaco

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    First and foremost, I would like to say that I have much experience running roserade sets, and I have found these to be most effective.

    *Both of these are fit for rain teams, to keep pesky fire types away.*

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    Offensive Physical Sweeper
    Poison Point/ Natural Cure
    Adamant Nature, @Choice Band
    252 Atk, 252 Spe

    Bullet Seed
    Poison Jab
    Return/Frustration
    Pin Missile

    *I know this set may sound crappy, but it is totally unexpected and relies mostly on the art of surprise. The poison point/ poison jab gives a chance of poisoning, and return/ frustration is just in there for good measure.*

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    Poison Point/ Natural Cure
    Adamant Nature, @Life Orb
    252 Atk, 252 Spe

    Poison Jab
    Bullet Seed
    Return/ Frustration
    Swords Dance

    *Same as last time, but relies on getting a swords dance to perform an effective sweep.*

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    Got any other sets? Recommendations? Post them.
  2. jrp

    jrp wanker of the highest order

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    why are you using sets off of Roserade's base 70 attack when it has 125 special attack

    Surprise factor only works once in a battle.
  3. Kenny

    Kenny don't expect me

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    Even surprise wouldn't make this good, special sets completely outclass it. Sorry.
  4. SpareAacount

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    What does physical Roserade beat that special Roserade struggles with. I wonder what. You've obviously haven't had much experience with Roserade if you think these sets are the best with Roserade's paltry 70 base attack. I also think that you shouldn't be making threads specifically about sets a Pokemon can run, and that you should post it in like the np thread.

    EDIT: How about the Special Attack that Roserade has, which is far superior to its Attack. Pokemon that switch into Roserade, like Crobat, will not even take much damage from a physical set, so I really don't see the point of running such a set. Also, I'm curious on what sets you ran with Roserade outside of that set.
  5. Cheatingtaco

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    Yes, but it only needs to really hit hard once. Plus, it's speed allows it to out-speed most switch ins and lets it hit hard multiple times, if necessary.

    It's a completely powerful set, regardless the disadvantages.
  6. Morgenstern

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    Not to be a douche, but a physical Roserade is a really bad idea. Well moving on, Poison Point should never be considered over Natural Cure since if you are using Poison Point and get burned, it gets crippled for the rest of the match, but if you run Natural Cure you can just switch to get rid of the burn. Also Poison Jab shouldnt be used on Roserade, Grass/Normal already has pretty good coverage and Poison isnt helping. So maybe adding Sleep Powder would be a better idea. Well imma leave some sets for you to replace the current ones and add some new ones. Also Seed Bomb>Bullet Seed since you dont have Technician, and Pin Missile is bad. But if you opt to use TechniRade then just pick something else to replace Pin Missile.
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    Roserade (F) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Natural Cure/Technician
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - Sleep Powder
    - Return
    - Seed Bomb/Bullet Seed

    Banded
    Roserade (M) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 32 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 220 Spd
    Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
    - Seed Bomb
    - Return
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Rest

    Mixed
    Roserade (F) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Natural Cure/Technitian
    EVs: 32 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 220 Spd
    Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
    - Growth
    - Seed Bomb/Bullet Seed
    - Return
    - Hidden Power [Fire] (HP Fire should have 59 Base Power with Technician)

    Sub 3 Attacks
    Roserade (F) @ Black Sludge
    Trait: Technician
    EVs: 16 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SAtk / 232 Spd
    Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
    - Substitute
    - Bullet Seed
    - Return
    - Hidden Power [Fire](HP Fire should have 59 Base Power with Technician)

    I think this are probably the most viable physical Roserade sets for Roserade, also you might want to consider using HP Ice for Gligar.
  7. LonelyNess

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    Why wouldn't you use Technician on that Bullet Seed abusing Choice Band set?
  8. cim

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    Too bad it really hits hard zero times... Even against Snorlax / Umbreon, special attacks hit much harder.
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    358 Atk vs 197 Def & 513 HP (75 Base Power): 147 - 174 (28.65% - 33.92%)

    You don't even 3HKO the standard Snorlax with Bullet Seed (on average)

    349 Atk vs 330 Def & 513 HP (140 Base Power): 207 - 244 (40.35% - 47.56%)

    This is Leaf Storm vs. that same Snorlax

    So like, what exactly are you trying to accomplish by using a set that does -less- damage to its counters?
  10. Morgenstern

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    He probably just wants to be original or something like that.
  11. jrp

    jrp wanker of the highest order

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    That is not an excuse

    I can go off about how good Nasty Plot Weavile is if I want to be original. Doesn't mean that NP weavile is good
  12. Vileman

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    Uh, this will never be good. Rosearade doesn't has the power to get "surprise kills" to anything, and has a paper defense stat that wont help it if its not O/2HKOing stuff like the special offensive set does.
    Also lol pin missile it doesn't even has moves to do this, sorry but this won't work.
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    April Fools' was yesterday.
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