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Rotom-F (Analysis) [QC 2/2][GP 2/2]

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by Tan, Oct 5, 2011.

  1. Tan

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    Rotom-F
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    [Overview]

    <p>Rotom-F is a good Pokemon both offensively and defensively, and should not be underestimated in VGC 2012. With a new secondary Ice typing to add to its Electric typing, Rotom-F has STAB on popular moves such as Blizzard and Thunderbolt, and is still able to take a hit. It should be considered on any hail team. </p>

    [SET]
    name: Offensive
    move 1: Blizzard
    move 2: Thunderbolt
    move 3: Protect / Trick
    move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Thunder Wave
    item: Ice Gem / Choice Scarf
    nature: Modest
    evs: 12 HP/ 248 SpA / 248 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Rotom-F may not immediately stand out as an excellent sweeper, but with a decent base 105 Special Attack and enough Defense to take a Bullet Punch, it has great potential in the VGC 2012 metagame. Blizzard is Rotom-F's best STAB attack, as it hits both of the opposing Pokemon. It also does a huge amount of damage to Pokemon that don't resist it, especially when boosted by an Ice Gem. Thunderbolt is another powerful STAB move that can seriously hurt threats such as Kingdra and Politoed and possibly leave a Pokemon paralyzed. Protect is a staple VGC move; it allows Rotom-F's partner to take out threats to Rotom-F while protecting Rotom-F from damage, and it lets Rotom-F scout out potential moves its opponents could have. If Rotom-F is using a Choice item, however, you should use Trick instead. Tricking a Choice Scarf to a Trick Room starter or a support Pokemon, such as Cresselia, will probably force a switch and render them useless for the rest of the battle. The last moveslot has two good options. Hidden Power Fire is useful for taking out popular Bug- and Grass-type Pokemon, such as Scizor and Abomasnow, while Thunder Wave allows Rotom-F to paralyze anything that is not immune to Electric-type moves, enabling it and its teammate to outspeed their opponents. A Choice set should obviously go for Hidden Power Fire, but a non-Choice user should decide based on personal preference.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>An Ice Gem is the best option, as it would increase the power of Blizzard, allowing Rotom-F to sweep Pokemon from the beginning of the match, while maintaining its ability to switch moves. However, a Choice Scarf is a viable option as well. With base 86 Speed, Choice Scarf Rotom-F can be an excellent revenge killer, as it outruns Pokemon such as Tornadus and Thundurus. Rotom-F should be paired with an Abomasnow, as hail ensures a 100% accurate Blizzard while dealing residual damage. Rotom-F also works well with Tailwind inducers such as Tornadus. With Tailwind support, Rotom-F easily outspeeds all opposing Pokemon. A great offensive partner would be Garchomp, as it can Earthquake opposing Steel-types without damaging Rotom-F due to Levitate, and it also resists Fire-type attacks, particularly Heat Wave, which Rotom-F is weak to. </p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Choice Specs can be a very good alternative Choice item. A Choice Specs-boosted move can deal serious damage to just about everything; however, Choice Specs Rotom-F might be too slow to be very effective. Other good items are resist berries. A Chople or an Occa Berry makes Rotom-F harder to take down with Fighting- or Fire-type attacks, respectively, and can allow it to get an extra hit off. A dual screens set is possible, and it can be effective in VGC if you are able to get both screens up in time. Discharge could replace Thunderbolt if paired with a Ground-type, such as Garchomp. </p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Rotom-F unfortunately has multiple weaknesses to popular VGC Pokemon. STAB Flamethrower or Heat Wave from the likes of Chandelure and Volcarona, as well as Blaziken's Flare Blitz, can OHKO Rotom-F with ease. Both Rock Slide and Close Combat from Terrakion will OHKO it, and Mach Punch from Hitmontop, Breloom, or Conkeldurr will 2HKO it. A Scizor's Bullet Punch, however, only 3HKOes Rotom-F. </p>
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    Change EVs on the Choice Specs to 12 HP / 248 SpA / 248 Spe. You're wasting EVs cause of the IV drop.
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    Ok fixed. I also been really busy with school, but my initial work is done. Ready for critiques and QC Checks
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    Ctrl+F: "Protect", nothing found.

    I thing you should probably mention Protect being an option at least somewhere in the write up.
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    definitely need protect

    choice scarf should be slashed with specs IMO
    thunderbolt instead of thunder on the choice set

    edit: don't bother mentioning sr, it's not relevant for vgc 12
    should probably have resist berries mentioned as well
    tailwind support is cool
    also mention sitrus berry
  6. Tan

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    Ok. I decided to replace volt switch with protect as a main option on the dual screen set, and I put volt switch in the additional comments section. I also added all the items Solace mentioned. anything else?
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    rotom frost should be viewed as 'the stab blizzard that isnt weak to bullet punch.' please remove the screens set and change the main set to offensive with ice gem / scarf / specs, hp fire, remove volt switch, occa, chople berry, and screens in oo. mention garchomp as a decent partner to EQ steel mons and resist heat wave.
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    should I remove the choice set too and combine it with this offensive set?
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    On the Choice set, Trick should get a mention IMO. If using a CScarf, Rotom can Trick CScarf on to Trick Room starters and support pokemon usually forcing them to switch and screwing them for the rest of the match. Some of your damage calcs are wrong or very unlikely to happen and probably shouldn't be your main points.
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    @tan yes, also add trick to OO, its always satisfying locking cresselia into one move x)
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    It seems like thats more of a singles set than vgc. Rotom's set should normally look blizzard,t-bolt,protect,Filler(t-wave,hp-fire/hpground).

    As muffinhead said icegem is good for rotom. Also Specs rotom is too slow to beat half the pokemon you listed it can ko.Latios usually ohko's with dracometeor factoring gem/Lifeorb. Same for latias carrying dragongem. Terrakion C.C I believe is a ohko. Venasaur and the other clorophyll users will be in sun 9000% of the time so if you don't have your weather up your looking at a sleeppowder or hpfire(withsun) for the ko.

    So in conclusion i don't think the specs are too viable. I believe scarf is a whole different story getting the jump on many things that ko it.
  12. Tan

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    Ok I took everyone's advice in to consideration and here is my newest draft. Am I missing anything?
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    I'm not really a VGC player, but shouldn't there be some mention of Discharge, at least in the OO?
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    yes in oo, but only if garchomp is the teammate. its only usable on a hail team or with garchomp, and you dont want to hit your other mon.

    after that qc 1 / 2
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    qc 2/2
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    sorry question, how does protect work should one use choice scarf. D: Should there be an alternative move suggested for when using scarf?
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    it'd probably go for trick->protect, which should be mentioned
  18. Tan

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    I mentioned this in OO that you should replace it with trick, should I move this to the main set?

    Edit: I just moved it up to the main set an this is ready for GP!
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    fixed
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    [Overview]

    <p>Rotom-F is a good Pokemon both offensively and defensively, and should not be underestimated in VGC 2012. With a new secondary Ice typing to add to its Electric typing, Rotom-F gains STAB on popular moves such as Blizzard and Thunderbolt (It doesn't GAIN STAB on thunderbolt), and is still able to take a hit. It should be considered on any hail team. </p> This needs to be expanded A LOT

    [SET]
    name: Offensive
    move 1: Blizzard
    move 2: Thunderbolt
    move 3: Protect / Trick
    move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Thunder Wave
    item: Ice Gem / Choice Scarf
    nature: Modest
    evs: 12 HP/ 248 SpA / 248 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Rotom-F may not immediately stand out as an excellent sweeper, (comma) but with a decent base 105 Special Attack and enough Defense to take a Bullet Punch, it has great potential in the VGC 2012 metagame. Blizzard is Rotom-F's best STAB attack, (comma) as it hits both of the opposing Pokemon. It also does a huge amount of damage to Pokemon that don't resist it, especially when boosted by an Ice Gem. Thunderbolt is another powerful STAB move that can seriously hurt threats such as Kingdra and Politoad and possibly leave a Pokemon paralyzed. Protect is a staple VGC move; (semicolon) it allows Rotom-F's partner to take out threats to Rotom-F while protecting Rotom-F from damage, or to scout out potential moves its opponents could have. If Rotom-F is using a Choice item, however, you should use Trick instead. Tricking a Choice Scarf to a Trick Room starter or a support Pokemon, such as Cresselia, will probably force a switch and render them useless for the rest of the battle. The last moveslot has two good options. Hidden Power Fire is useful for taking out popular Bug- and Grass-type Pokemon, such as Scizor and Abomasnow, while Thunder Wave allows Rotom-F to paralyze anything that is not immune to Electric-type moves, enabling it and its teammate to outspeed their opponents. (Remove space) A Choice set should obviously go for Hidden Power Fire, but a non-Choice user should decide based on personal preference.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>An Ice Gem is the best option, as it would increase the power of Blizzard, allowing Rotom-F to sweep Pokemon from the beginning on the match, while maintaining its ability to switch moves. However, a Choice Scarf can be a viable option as well. With base 86 Speed, Choice Scarf Rotom-F can be an excellent revenge killer, as it outruns Pokemon such as Tornadus and Thundurus. Rotom-F should be paired with a hail inducer, specifically Abomasnow, as hail ensures a 100% accurate Blizzard while dealing residual damage. Rotom-F also works well with Tailwind inducers, such as like Tornadus. With Tailwind support, Rotom-F will easily outspeed all opposing Pokemon. (remove space) A great offensive partner would be Garchomp, as it can Earthquake away opposing Steel-types without Rotom-F taking any damage due to Levitate, and it also resists Fire-type attacks, particularly Heat Wave, which Rotom-F is weak to. </p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Choice Specs can be a very good alternative Choice item. A Choice Specs-boosted move can deal serious damage to just about everything; however, Choice Specs Rotom-F might be too slow to be very effective. Other good items are resist berries. A Chople or an Occa Berry makes Rotom-F harder to take down with Fighting- or Fire-type attacks, (comma) respectively, and can allow it to get an extra hit off. A dual screens set is possible, and it can be effective in VGC if you are able to get both screens up in time. Discharge could replace Thunderbolt if paired with a Ground-type, such as Garchomp. Just be cautious, however, as Discharge will damage a non-ground partner. </p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Rotom-F unfortunately has multiple weaknesses to popular VGC Pokemon. STAB Flamethrower or Heat Wave from the likes of Chandelure and Volcarona, as well as Flare Blitz from Blaziken, (comma) can OHKO Rotom-F with ease. Both Rock Slide and Close Combat from Terrakion will OHKO, and finally, Mach Punch from Hitmontop, Breloom, or Conkeldurr will probably 2HKO Rotom-F (Will it 2HKO or not?). Technician (All Scizor are technician) Scizor's Bullet Punch, however, only 3HKOes Rotom-F. </p>
  22. Tan

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    fixed, Rotom-F has a electric typing so it does get STAB
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    I meant that with its new typing, it hasn't GAINED any new STAB from generation 4, while it DID gain STAB on blizzard. It might have been a bit confusing in the analysis.
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    [Overview]
    <p>Rotom-F is a good Pokemon both offensively and defensively, and should not be underestimated in VGC 2012. With a new secondary Ice typing to add to its Electric typing, Rotom-F has STAB on popular moves such as Blizzard and Thunderbolt, and is still able to take a hit. It should be considered on any hail team. </p>

    [SET]
    name: Offensive
    move 1: Blizzard
    move 2: Thunderbolt
    move 3: Protect / Trick
    move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Thunder Wave
    item: Ice Gem / Choice Scarf
    nature: Modest
    evs: 12 HP/ 248 SpA / 248 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Rotom-F may not immediately stand out as an excellent sweeper, but with a decent base 105 Special Attack and enough Defense to take a Bullet Punch, it has great potential in the VGC 2012 metagame. Blizzard is Rotom-F's best STAB attack, as it hits both of the opposing Pokemon. It also does a huge amount of damage to Pokemon that don't resist it, especially when boosted by an Ice Gem. Thunderbolt is another powerful STAB move that can seriously hurt threats such as Kingdra and Politoed and possibly leave a Pokemon paralyzed. Protect is a staple VGC move; it allows Rotom-F's partner to take out threats to Rotom-F while protecting Rotom-F from damage, and it lets Rotom-F scout out potential moves its opponents could have. If Rotom-F is using a Choice item, however, you should use Trick instead. Tricking a Choice Scarf to a Trick Room starter or a support Pokemon, such as Cresselia, will probably force a switch and render them useless for the rest of the battle. The last moveslot has two good options. Hidden Power Fire is useful for taking out popular Bug- and Grass-type Pokemon, such as Scizor and Abomasnow, while Thunder Wave allows Rotom-F to paralyze anything that is not immune to Electric-type moves, enabling it and its teammate to outspeed their opponents. A Choice set should obviously go for Hidden Power Fire, but a non-Choice user should decide based on personal preference.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>An Ice Gem is the best option, as it would increase the power of Blizzard, allowing Rotom-F to sweep Pokemon from the beginning of the match, while maintaining its ability to switch moves. However, a Choice Scarf is a viable option as well. With base 86 Speed, Choice Scarf Rotom-F can be an excellent revenge killer, as it outruns Pokemon such as Tornadus and Thundurus. Rotom-F should be paired with an Abomasnow, as hail ensures a 100% accurate Blizzard while dealing residual damage. Rotom-F also works well with Tailwind inducers such as Tornadus. With Tailwind support, Rotom-F will easily outspeeds all opposing Pokemon. A great offensive partner would be Garchomp, as it can Earthquake opposing Steel-types without Rotom-F taking any damaging Rotom-F due to Levitate, and it also resists Fire-type attacks, particularly Heat Wave, which Rotom-F is weak to. </p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Choice Specs can be a very good alternative Choice item. A Choice Specs-boosted move can deal serious damage to just about everything; however, Choice Specs Rotom-F might be too slow to be very effective. Other good items are resist berries. A Chople or an Occa Berry makes Rotom-F harder to take down with Fighting- or Fire-type attacks, respectively, and can allow it to get an extra hit off. A dual screens set is possible, and it can be effective in VGC if you are able to get both screens up in time. Discharge could replace Thunderbolt if paired with a Ground-type, such as Garchomp. </p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Rotom-F unfortunately has multiple weaknesses to popular VGC Pokemon. STAB Flamethrower or Heat Wave from the likes of Chandelure and Volcarona, as well as Blaziken's Flare Blitz, can OHKO Rotom-F with ease. Both Rock Slide and Close Combat from Terrakion will OHKO it, and finally, Mach Punch from Hitmontop, Breloom, or Conkeldurr will 2HKO it. A Scizor's Bullet Punch, however, only 3HKOes Rotom-F. </p>


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    oh, ok I understand what you mean

    Fixed above. This is now done and ready to upload

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