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Rotom-S

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by Lolk, Aug 6, 2013.

  1. Lolk

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    [Overview]

    <p>Rotom-S is blessed with decent stats across the board and an expansive movepool to back them up. Primarily known for its Choice Scarf set, Rotom-S has lost some limelight to Primeape and Jynx due to their higher Speed and greater coverage. Nevertheless, its great offensive typing offers a STAB Volt Switch, and its Speed covers enough significant threats that Rotom-S can see some usage as a Choice Scarf user. In addition, its typing covers many physical threats, so Rotom-S can use its large movepool to function as a wall or pivot, showcasing its versatility. However, a Pokemon with a weakness to Stealth Rock and a lack of reliable recovery cannot thrive on its own, so Rotom-S needs proper team support to function to its fullest.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    move 1: Thunderbolt
    move 2: Air Slash
    move 3: Volt Switch
    move 4: Trick
    item: Choice Scarf
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set functions as a revenge killer and late-game sweeper. With Thunderbolt and Air Slash as Rotom-S's most reliable STAB options, it can outspeed and KO common threats such as +2 Timid Gorebyss, +2 Carracosta, and Choice Scarf Sawk. If the opponent lacks a Ground-type, Rotom-S can easily spam Volt Switch early-game for damage and momentum. Trick is used for bulky defensive Pokemon, easily crippling whatever comes in to wall Rotom-S's attack and allowing it to switch up moves.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>While lacking in power when compared to Primeape and Jynx due to its lower attacking stat and its lower Base Power STABs, Rotom-S does have surprising fortitude, withstanding Aqua Jets from +2 Carracosta and +2 Samurott and KOing them back. Unfortunately, with its weakness to Stealth Rock, its bulk is hindered with each quarter of health lost, so keeping Stealth Rock out of play is highly beneficial, but not required. Great partners to keep Stealth Rock off the field are Choice Band Mold Breaker Sawk and Taunt Samurott, both of which fit into the offensive playstyle nicely. Ground-types are also a problem, as they are immune to Thunderbolt and Volt Switch, severely limiting Rotom-S in the match. Multiple measures can be taken, however, to alleviate this issue. For starters, Rotom-S can use Hidden Power Grass to hit common Ground-types, such as Seismitoad and Golem, for massive damage. Most Water-, Grass-, and Ice-type Pokemon can dispose of Ground-types as well; Ludicolo is a good partner because it has the bulk to switch in and threaten them with Giga Drain, Hydro Pump, or Ice Beam. Good defensive partners for Rotom-S cover its Rock- and Ice-type weaknesses, so Steel-types such as Hone Claws Metang and Shift Gear Klang are good choices for this playstyle.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Expert Belt
    move 1: Volt Switch
    move 2: Hidden Power Grass
    move 3: Air Slash
    move 4: Thunderbolt
    item: Expert Belt
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe


    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Fitting best on balanced and offensive teams, this set acts as a lure, targeting Ground-types that switch in expecting the common Choice Scarf set's Volt Switch. Hidden Power Grass hits all of them for major damage, KOing the 4x weak Seismitoad and Golem. Air Slash and Thunderbolt are the most reliable STABs and are meant to dish out optimal damage.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Expert Belt is the key item for this set, because the lack of residual damage when attacking creates the impression that Rotom-S is holding a Choice Scarf. Because it is not locked into any moves, Rotom-S can use much of its large arsenal to exploit the bluff. Will-O-Wisp can be used to cripple almost all of NU's physical attackers, but KOing them with the appropriate coverage move is more beneficial. Also, Rotom-S could use the ChestoRest strategy for good recovery while utilizing the same masquerade, but the lack of immediate power is noticeable. Pain Split could also be used for recovery, but the lack of coverage would hurt it more.</p>

    <p>Much like the Choice Scarf set, Steel-types such as Metang and Klang are good partners because they cover Rotom-S's weaknesses to Ice- and Rock-type moves. Wallbreakers such as Choice Band Sawk are great for disposing of walls that can handle all of Rotom-S's attacks, such as Lickilicky and Regice, and Sawk can possibly keep Stealth Rock off the field as well, aiding in Rotom-S's longevity. Lastly, more balanced teams can afford a Wish passer, such as Lickilicky or Alomomola, which helps keep Rotom-S alive.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Defensive
    move 1: Pain Split
    move 2: Discharge / Substitute
    move 3: Air Slash
    move 4: Will-O-Wisp
    item: Leftovers
    nature: Bold
    evs: 224 HP / 220 Def / 64 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>A surprising set for defensive teams, Rotom-S's role is to spread harmful status conditions on many unsuspecting Pokemon. Its Flying typing allows it to switch in on the popular Fighting- and Ground-types of NU and burn them with Will-O-Wisp or hurt them with Air Slash. Discharge is preferred for its paralysis chance, and Rotom-S can create a mean para-flinching scenario with Air Slash. Pain Split is important because it's Rotom-S's most reliable recovery move. Substitute could be used instead of Discharge to ease prediction and handle more switch-ins that would threaten Rotom-S out.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The 64 Speed EVs allow Rotom-S to outspeed Timid Gorebyss before it can use Shell Smash, which is an important precaution. The rest of the EVs offer the highest amount of Leftovers recovery and maximize its bulk. It is possible to make Rotom-S specially defensive, but there is less it can wall on that side of the spectrum. It can use the ChestoRest strategy for guaranteed recovery, but the more balanced the team and the longer matches drag on, the more the strategy proves to be underwhelming. Another option is to use Volt Switch, which turns Rotom-S into a bulky pivot.</p>

    <p>Metang is the best partner for this set because of its synergy with Rotom-S and its bulk, creating a sound defensive core. Defensive teams always appreciate Wish support, which comes best from Audino or Alomomola in this playstyle. Good partners that also fit the defensive playstyle are Taunt Misdreavus and Rapid Spin Wartortle because they help patch up Rotom-S's weakness to Stealth Rock.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Some viable options for Rotom-S include a Choice Specs wallbreaker set and a Rain Dance set with Damp Rock, as it can use the weather itself with Thunder or pivot to a rain sweeper with Volt Switch. It can also set up with Sunny Day, but it doesn't fit well on sun teams. Rotom-S also has access to dual screens, but its lack of reliable recovery leaves it outclassed by Musharna. A Life Orb set with Substitute and Pain Split is also viable, but it is often underwhelming with the lack of coverage. Rotom-S can take the annoying path with Confuse Ray, Thunder Wave, and Air Slash, but any strategy dependent on luck is unreliable. Some moves that it can possibly fit into a slot on the offensive sets to hit situational threats are Dark Pulse, Shadow Ball, Signal Beam, and Sucker Punch. A Charge Beam set is possible, but setup sweepers such as Nasty Plot Misdreavus and Calm Mind Serperior are more reliable.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Because of Rotom-S's low power, most dedicated special walls, such as Regice, Lickilicky, Audino, and Munchlax, can handle the offensive sets. Tanks can also take most of Rotom-S's attacks as long as they have an advantageous typing. For example, Piloswine is immune to Thunderbolt and Volt Switch and can deal damage back with super effective STAB Ice-type attacks. However, if any of these Pokemon are Tricked onto a Choice Scarf, they are severely crippled for the rest of the match. Electric-types such as Eelektross, Zebstrika, and Ampharos are able to switch in on Rotom-S's STABs with minimal damage, and most generally do not fear a Choice item being Tricked onto them. Also, faster Pokemon with super effective coverage such as Choice Scarf Jynx are able to revenge kill Rotom-S quite easily. Pokemon with Taunt such as Misdreavus are able to stop the defensive set from recovering, and Pokemon that don't fear status, such as Ursaring and RestTalk users, can generally handle that set.</p>

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    [Overview]
    • Notorious Scarfer overshadowed by the faster Primeape and Jynx, but it is still good nevertheless, outspeeding threats such as Sawk, Braviary, +2 Gorebyss, and Shiftry
    • Pretty good stats all around, good offensive and defensive typing, and a great movepool offer much versatility; it an use an offensive, defensive, or support role.
    • Weak to SR and must rely on Rest or Pain Split for recovery
    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    move 1: Thunderbolt
    move 2: Air Slash
    move 3: Volt Switch
    move 4: Trick
    item: Choice Scarf
    ability: Levitate
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    • Functions as revenge killer and late game sweeper
    • Strongest dual STABS
    • Volt Switch for early game momentum
    • Trick cripples most Pokemon, working greatest against bulky teams
    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
    • Has enough bulk to tank an Aqua Jet from +2 Carracosta and +2 Samurott and KO
    • Lacking of power compared to other scarfers
    • Cannot switch in numerously to SR, so a Wish Passer (Alomomola Lickilicky) is helpful
    • Good defensive partners can take the Ice- and Rock-type attacks headed towards Rotom-S. Steels like Metang are your best bet.
    • Offensive partners that can deal with other Electric's that resist both of Rotom-S's stabs, and walls in general, like Golurk, and are good.
    • CB Sawk can keep SR off the field with Mold Breaker bypassing Sturdy and can handle walls that Rotom-S cannot break through, such as Lickilicky, Regice, and Munchlax
    • Grass-, Water-, and Ice-type Pokemon are great for predicting Ground-type switch ins planning to absorb Volt Switch. Ludicolo is probably the best partner, since it learns moves of all three types.
    • HP Grass can be used to get past the Ground-types such as Golem and Seismitoad itself, but that involves risky prediction because it will not due enough damage to neutral opponents.
    [SET]
    name: Expert Belt
    move 1: Volt Switch
    move 2: Hidden Power Grass
    move 3: Air Slash
    move 4: Thunderbolt
    item: Expert Belt
    ability: Levitate
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    • Volt Switch is great for momentum
    • Great at faking Choice items, with HP grass surprising Ground-types such as Golem and Seismitoad who switch in on the predicted Volt Switch
    • Dual STABs for most reliable offenses
    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
    • Good partners who can take out the ice- and rock-types threatening Rotom-S super-effectively are Steel-types like Metang and Klang who can handle Jynx and cover Rotom-S's weaknesses.
    • CB Sawk can handle most walls that take little from Rotom-S's attacks, such as Lickilicky, Regice, and Munchlax, and can possibly keep SR off the field with Mold Breaker bypassing Sturdy. Golurk can handle these walls also, and it can handle Electric-types that take little from Rotom-S's coverage.
    • Will-O-Wisp or HP Ice could be used in a slot
    • ChestoRest also accomplishes the lure
    [SET]
    name: Defensive
    move 1: Pain Split
    move 2: Discharge / Substitute
    move 3: Air Slash
    move 4: Will-O-Wisp
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Levitate
    nature: Bold
    evs: 224 HP / 220 Def / 64 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    • Surprising to unprepared foes
    • Pretty nice defensive typing since most physical attackers will have to rely on Stone Miss to hit it super-effectively. Faces the common choiced fighting-types well.
    • Pain Split is the best option for longevity
    • Air Slash has safest mono coverage, and can make a mean para-flinch situation with discharge.
    • Discharge is for a second STAB, but it can conflict with Will-O-Wisp when statusing.
    • Will-O-Wisp cripples most of NUs physical attackers
    • Substitute is for switches to ease prediction, as well as to absorb status.
    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
    • evs outspeed Timid Gorebyss and below
    • ChestoRest is viable and allows an extra move, but in longer matches it will fail you
    • evs for maximum leftovers recovery and bulk
    • SpD set optional but it resists less on that spectrum
    • Metang is a good partner that can set up SR and they make a good Defensive core since Physical Fire-types are nonexistant in NU
    • Appreciates Wish support (Alomomola and Audino) since Pain Split can be unreliable
    • Good partners who can take out the ice- and rock-types threatening Rotom-S super-effectively are Steel-types like Metang and Klang
    • Mold Breaker Sawk can possibly stop SR.
    • Volt Switch could be used to make Rotom-S more of a pivot
    [Other Options]
    • Choice Specs wall breaker set
    • Can run a great Rain Dance set utilizing it itself with Thunder or pivoting into a sweeper with Volt Switch
    • Annoying Sub Confuse Ray Air Slash set
    • Offensive SubSplit Life Orb
    • RestTalk (But not as effective as Sub Split)
    • Moves it fails to fit in a slot: Thunder Wave, Charge Beam, Shadow Ball, Signal Beam, Dark Pulse, Sucker Punch
    • Sunny Day (but doesnt really fit in a sun team)
    • Dual Screens (but no reliable recovery)
    [Checks and Counters]
    • Bulky Electric-types (Eelectross) resists STABs and can dish damage back
    • Most Bulky Pokemon fear being tricked a choice item, but most special walls (Lickilicky, Regice) can handle Rotom-S's attacks
    • Ground-types absorb Thunderbolt and Volt Switch but also fear Trick and HP Grass
    • Taunt users (Liepard, Misdreavus, Serperior) can stop the Defensive set but can all be hit with strong STABs
    • Faster pokemon with super-effective attacks (Jynx especially) can KO Rotom-S
    • Stealth Rock
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  2. Rohail

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    The Choice sets need to be split into two, as they both do completely different tasks. Choice Specs is a wallbreaker while Choice Scarf is a revenge killer and late-game cleaner. Oh and that point about Timid should be in AC, not SC.

    EDIT: One more nitpick: it's Will-O-Wisp
  3. Lolk

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    K edited, but a lot of the moves/points are very similar. Thanks
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    make scarf first set, take out hp ice, make trick the only option so therefore take out the iv mention
    add hp ice and hp grass in oo for scarf since scarf is mainly based on revenge killing and not luring

    i would scrap choice specs so id honestly put an expert belt set instead of choice specs as a lure with hp grass
    looks like this: max spa max spe timid volt switch, air slash, hp grass, and tbolt (restochesto and wisp in ac for this slot)
    mention for the lure set that it lures out stuff like seismitoad and golem for other mons on the team to take advantage of that as well as not giving up momentum with volt switch

    on the defensive set, put discharge slashed with substitute and take out the slash of discharge with wisp
    also on the defensive set, id use the ev spread of 224 hp / 220 def / 64 spe with bold nature (outspeeds timid gorebyss as well as speedy subbu brav and hits jump point in def as well as odd hp number)
    put volt switch in oo of the defensive set to act like more of a pivot but state how discharge in general is better so it wont have to switch out

    add a sub confuse ray air slash set to annoy ppl in oo

    you need to mention partners for all of the sets too

    a lot needs to be worked on this and this is just the first step to clear up part of the mess
  5. Lolk

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    K i think i got everything. It was the consensus on irc to have Specs as a set but you're the boss with the stamp. Thanks :)

    Edit: QC has mixed opinions on the Lure and Defensive sets so any input on them would be nice!

    Edit: Updated with various suggestions off irc and forums
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2013
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    list mons the scarf set revenge kills such as sawk, gurdurr, +2 gorebyss, and can tank a hit from +2 rott (no torrent) or +2 costa ajet even after one sr switchin
    go into a bit more detail on the lure set such as listing what ground mons it lures (golem, toad)
    put discharge as first slash, sub as second
    in description of defensive set, i think you mean timid gorebyss
    list an offensive subsplit life orb set in OO

    looks a lot better now good job
    qc 1/3
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    [Overview]
    • First point shouldn't refer to Jynx and Primeape as "dropdowns." Change it to something like "Notorious Choice Scarf user, but tends to be overshadowed by the faster Jynx and Primeape."
    • For the second point, mention why Rotom-S is versatile—good stats all around, good offensive and defensive typing, cool movepool, etc.
    • The mention of its ability can be cut. Levitate is neither good nor bad for Rotom-S, and as such, it doesn't affect the way Rotom-S plays at all. Instead, you can make a mention about how its Speed is good enough to handle some big threats and NU and bad enough to make it fairly easy to check.
    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] (Choice Scarf)
    • Timid is used to beat +Speed base 80 and 85 Speed Scarfers as well as +2 Timid Gorebyss, so you don't need to mention +Atk/SpA base 95s at all.
    • Mention HP Grass here as an alternative over another move to get passed Seismitoad/Golem/other Ground-types.
    [SET] (Expert Belt)
    • I'd like the set order to be Volt Switch / Hidden Power Grass / Air Slash / Thunderbolt. This set is all about luring in and beating Ground-types so that you can spam Volt Switch later in the match, so the order of the set should reflect how important that is.
    [SET COMMENTS] (Expert Belt)
    • Mention that luring in Ground-types and beating them with Hidden Power Grass so that it can freely Volt Switch later is a big reason to use the set.
    • Change the order of the bulletpoints to reflect the new set order.
    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] (Expert Belt)
    • I'd change the mention of Wish support to something along the lines of "appreciates Wish support" rather than "needs" it. I don't think I've ever used Wish support with Rotom-S before. It's not obligatory, but it's nice.
    • All mentions of Will-O-Wisp should be spelled "Will-O-Wisp" with two l's rather than one.
    [Other Options]
    • Second point, avoid using "abuse" in your write-up over something like "utilize" or "take advantage of," as "abuse" has a negative connotation.
    Mostly looks good, just a lot of nit-picky technical stuff. Make sure to add these and Annoyer's changes, and I'll stamp.
  8. Lolk

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    K I think I got everything. Thanks!
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    Add what Treecko said in the Overview: "make a mention about how its Speed is good enough to handle some big threats and NU and bad enough to make it fairly easy to check." Basically its Speed is good enough that it handles threats such Sawk, Braviary, Shiftry etc.. but not good enough for Kanga, Haunter, Jynx, Primeape etc.

    [Additional Comments] (Scarf)
    Wish passing to Rotom-S is useful but going as far as saying it's recommended somewhat implies that it kind of needs it; which is not true. I would just say it's useful over recommended. (Also change Audino mention to Lickilicky. Audino is a stall Pokemon; Lickilicky fits better on balance which is where you could potentially find Scarf Rotom-S + Wish user in the first place)

    [Additional Comments] (Lure)
    This set is pretty much used only on offensive teams, which makes the point on Wish not really make sense. Just because it has an SR weakness does not mean it needs Wish support. Wish support mention on Scarf is ok, because it fits on bulky offense teams that can afford to run an Alomo or Licky, but this set is basically offense only and none of those mons really fit. On CB Sawk's mention add that it can also prevent Stealth Rock thanks to Mold Breaker. Why do you keep saying that CB Sawk handles Electric-type Pokemon? It can outspeed and KO Eel and Ampharos sure, but it does not switch into them and if you use this logic anything capable of OHKOing them would fit in the criteria. Keep Sawk there for helping keep SR off the field and dealing with the Normals (Audino, Licky, Munchlax) that can take VSwitches. Add Golurk here as well as it can check Electric-types and has a good match up vs the Normals.

    [Additional Comments] (Defensive)
    Same thing as I said above on Sawk.

    Make these changes and I can stamp. I really hope you step up the quality when the write-up happens, this is less than satisfactory at the moment.
  10. Lolk

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    K edited. And sorry if the skeleton doesn't look pretty, but to me, it really is just a list of what I need to put in the write up. As long as all the information is there, I will be good.
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    Ok as long as the write up is good. Also don't forget to keep the skeleton under Hide tags.

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    The only thing I can say is add Piloswine to Checks and Counters, it's immune to Electric moves, has STAB Ice moves to KO Rotom-S with, and doesn't take much from Air Slash.

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    Changes in bold. Deletions in strikeout. AC and RC are comma changes.

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    [Overview]

    <p>Rotom-S is blessed with decent stats across the board and an expansive movepool to back it up. Primarily known for its Choice Scarf set, Rotom-S has lost some limelight to Primeape and Jynx, due to their higher Speed and greater coverage. Nevertheless, its great offensive typing offers a STAB Volt Switch, and its Speed covers enough significant threats that Rotom-S can see some usage as a Choice Scarf user. In addition, its typing covers many physical threats, so Rotom-S can use its large movepool to function as a wall or pivot, showcasing its versatility. However, a Pokemon with a weakness to Stealth Rock and a lack of reliable recovery cannot thrive on its own, so Rotom-S needs proper team support to function to its fullest.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    move 1: Thunderbolt
    move 2: Air Slash
    move 3: Volt Switch
    move 4: Trick
    item: Choice Scarf
    ability: Levitate
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set functions as a revenge killer and late game sweeper. With Thunderbolt and Air Slash as Rotom-S's most reliable STAB options, it can outspeed and KO common threats such as Scarf Sawk, Scarf Braviary, and +2 Timid Gorebyss. If the opponent lacks a Ground-type, Rotom-S can easily spam Volt Switch early game for damage and momentum. Trick is used for stall teams, easily crippling whatever comes in to wall Rotom-S's attack and allowing it to use multiple moves.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>While lacking in power when compared to Primeape and Jynx due to its lower attacking stat and/or its lower base power STABs, Rotom-S does have surprising fortitude girth, withstanding Aqua Jets from +2 Carracosta and +2 Samurott while KOing them back. Unfortunately, with its weakness to Stealth Rock, its bulk is hindered with each quarter of health lost, [changed ; to ,] so [RC] keeping Stealth Rock out of play is highly beneficial. Great partners to keep Stealth Rock off the field are Choice Band Sawk with Mold Breaker and Taunt Samutrott, who both of which fit into the offensive playstyle nicely. Ground-types are also a problem, since they are immune to Thunderbolt and Volt Switch, severely limiting Rotom-S in the match. Multiple methods measures can be taken, however, to alleviate this issue. For starters, Rotom-S can use Hidden Power Ice for BoltBeam coverage or Hidden Power Grass to hit the common Ground-types, Seismitoad and Golem, for massive damage. Both moves would most likely be used over Trick, but they will can only fit if stall teams aren't an issue. Most Water-, Grass-, and Ice-type Pokemon can dispose of Ground-types as well; Ludicolo is a good partner since it has the bulk to switch in and threaten them with Giga Drain, Hydro Pump, or Ice Beam. Good defensive partners for Rotom-S cover its Rock- and Ice-type weaknesses, so Steel-types such as Hone Claws Metang and Shift Gear Klang are good choices for this playstyle.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Expert Belt
    move 1: Volt Switch
    move 2: Hidden Power Grass
    move 3: Air Slash
    move 4: Thunderbolt
    item: Expert Belt
    ability: Levitate
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Fitting best on balanced and offensive teams, this set acts as a lure, targeting Ground-types that switch in expecting the common Choice Scarf set's Volt Switch. Hidden Power Grass hits all of them for major damage, KOing the 4x weak Seismitoad and Golem. Air Slash and Thunderbolt are the most reliable STABs and are meant to dish out optimal damage.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Expert Belt is the key item for this set, because the lack of residual damage when attacking creates the impression that Rotom-S is holding a Choice Scarf. Since it is not locked into any moves, Rotom-S can use much of its large arsenal to exploit the bluff. Will-O-Wisp can be used to cripple almost all of NU's physical attackers, but KOing them with the appropriate coverage move is more beneficial. Also, Rotom-S could use the ChestoRest strategy for good recovery while utilizing the same masquerade calling the same bluff, but the lack of immediate power is noticeable. Pain Split could also be used for recovery, but the lack of coverage would hurt it more.</p>

    <p>Much like the Choice Scarf set, Steel-types such as Metang and Klang are good partners because they cover Rotom-S's weaknesses to Ice- and Rock-type moves. Wallbreakers such as Choice Band Sawk are great for disposing of walls that can handle all of Rotom-S's attacks, such as Lickilicky and Regice, and Sawk can possibly keep Stealth Rocks off the field, aiding in Rotom-S's longevity. Lastly, more balanced teams can afford a Wish passer, such as Lickilicky or Alomomola, which helps keep it alive.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Defensive
    move 1: Pain Split
    move 2: Discharge / Substitute
    move 3: Air Slash
    move 4: Will-O-Wisp
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Levitate
    nature: Bold
    evs: 224 HP / 220 Def / 64 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>A surprising set for defensive teams, Rotom-S's role is to spread harmful status conditions on many unsuspecting Pokemon. Its Flying-type allows it to switch in on the popular Fighting- and Ground-types of NU [RC] and burn them with Will-O-Wisp or hurt them with Air Slash. Discharge is preferred for its paralysis chance, and Rotom-S can create a mean para-flinching scenario with Air Slash. Pain Split is important because it's Rotom-S's most reliable recovery move. Substitute could be used instead of Discharge to ease prediction and handle more switch-ins that would threaten Rotom-S out.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The 64 Speed EVs allow Rotom-S to outspeed Timid Gorebyss before it can use Shell Smash, which is an important precaution. The rest of the EVs offer the highest amount of Leftovers recovery and maximize its bulk. It is possible to make Rotom-S specially defensive, but there is less it can wall on that side of the spectrum. An option it could use, though, is ChestoRest for guaranteed recovery, but the more balanced the team [RC] and the longer matches drag on, the more the strategy proves to be underwhelming. Another option is to use Volt Switch, which turns Rotom-S into a bulky pivot.</p>

    <p>Metang is the best partner for this set because of its synergy with Rotom-S and its bulk, creating a sound defensive core. Defensive teams always appreciate Wish support, which comes best from Audino or Alomomola in this playstyle. Good partners that also fit the defensive playstyle are Taunt Misdreavus or Rapid Spin Wartortle because they help patch up Rotom-S's weakness to Stealth Rock.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Some viable options for Rotom-S include a Choice Specs wallbreaker set [RC] and a Rain Dance set with Damp Rock, [AC] since it can make use of abuse the weather itself with Thunder or pivot to a rain sweeper with Volt Switch. It can also set up with Sunny Day, but it doesn't fit well on sun teams. Rotom-S also has access to dual screens, but its lack of reliable recovery leaves it outclassed by Musharna. A Life Orb set with Substitute and Pain Split is also viable also, but it is often underwhelming with the lack of coverage. Rotom-S can take the annoying path with Confuse Ray, Thunder Wave, and Air Slash, but any strategy dependent on luck is unreliable. Some moves that it can possibly fit into a slot on the offensive sets to hit situational threats are Dark Pulse, Shadow Ball, Signal Beam, and Sucker Punch. A Charge Beam set is possible, but setup sweepers like Nasty Plot Misdreavus and Calm Mind Serperior are more reliable.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Because of Rotom-S's lower power, most dedicated special walls can handle the offensive sets, such as Regice, Lickilicky, Audino, and Munchlax. Tanks can also take most of Rotom-S's attacks as long as they have an advantageous typing. For example, Piloswine is immune to Thunderbolt and Volt Switch and can deal damage back with super-effective STAB Ice-type attacks. However, if any of these Pokemon are Tricked onto a Choice Scarf, they are severely crippled for the rest of the match. Electric-types such as Eelektross, Zebstraika, and Ampharos are able to switch in on Rotom-S's STABs with minimal damage, such as Eelektross, Zebstraika, and Ampharos, and most generally do not fear a Choice item being Tricked onto them. Also, faster Pokemon with super effective coverage such as Scarf Jynx are able to revenge kill Rotom-S quite easily. Pokemon with Taunt such as Misdreavus are able to stop the defensive set from recovering, and Pokemon that don't fear status, such as Ursaring and RestTalk users can generally can manipulate handle that set.</p>
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2013
  15. Lolk

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    K thank you Ender37! The only thing i did not change is Girth->Fortitude because they are synonyms and girth is one of my favorite words, so I will see what the next GP says about it :)
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    Girth actually means something akin to largeness or size and does not correlate to strength, so it doesn't work in the context that you used it.

    Edit: http://thesaurus.com/browse/girth

    Treecko edit: please don't use girth
  17. Lolk

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    Aw ok i've been using it out of context forever. thanks for crushing my dreams nbd
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    @Lolkomori GP time; oh and you don't need to announce that you're ready for the second GP check in the GP queue, just do so in this thread alone.

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    [Overview]

    <p>Rotom-S is blessed with decent stats across the board and an expansive movepool to back it them up. Primarily known for its Choice Scarf set, Rotom-S has lost some limelight to Primeape and Jynx,(RC) due to their higher Speed and greater coverage. Nevertheless, its great offensive typing offers a STAB Volt Switch, and its Speed covers enough significant threats that Rotom-S can see some usage as a Choice Scarf user. In addition, its typing covers many physical threats, so Rotom-S can use its large movepool to function as a wall or pivot, showcasing its versatility. However, a Pokemon with a weakness to Stealth Rock and a lack of reliable recovery cannot thrive on its own, so Rotom-S needs proper team support to function to its fullest.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    move 1: Thunderbolt
    move 2: Air Slash
    move 3: Volt Switch
    move 4: Trick
    item: Choice Scarf
    ability: Levitate (Levitate is the only ability Rotom-S can get :o)
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>This set functions as a revenge killer and late game late-game sweeper. With Thunderbolt and Air Slash as Rotom-S's most reliable STAB options, it can outspeed and KO common threats such as Choice Scarf Sawk, Choice Scarf Braviary, and +2 Timid Gorebyss. If the opponent lacks a Ground-type, Rotom-S can easily spam Volt Switch early game early-game for damage and momentum. Trick is used for stall teams, easily crippling whatever comes in to wall Rotom-S's attack and allowing it to use multiple moves.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>While lacking in power when compared to Primeape and Jynx due to its lower attacking stat and its lower base power Base Power STABs, Rotom-S does have surprising fortitude, withstanding Aqua Jets from +2 Carracosta and +2 Samurott while and KOing them back. Unfortunately, with its weakness to Stealth Rock, its bulk is hindered with each quarter of health lost, so keeping Stealth Rock out of play is highly beneficial. Great partners to keep Stealth Rock off the field are Choice Band Mold Breaker Sawk with Mold Breaker and Taunt Samutrott Samurott, both of which fit into the offensive playstyle nicely. Ground-types are also a problem, since as they are immune to Thunderbolt and Volt Switch, severely limiting Rotom-S in the match. Multiple measures can be taken, however, to alleviate this issue. For starters, Rotom-S can use Hidden Power Ice for BoltBeam coverage or Hidden Power Grass to hit the common Ground-types, such as Seismitoad and Golem, for massive damage. Both moves would most likely be used over Trick, but they will only fit if stall teams aren't an issue. Most Water-, Grass-, and Ice-type Pokemon can dispose of Ground-types as well; Ludicolo is a good partner since because it has the bulk to switch in and threaten them with Giga Drain, Hydro Pump, or Ice Beam. Good defensive partners for Rotom-S cover its Rock- and Ice-type weaknesses, so Steel-types such as Hone Claws Metang and Shift Gear Klang are good choices for this playstyle.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Expert Belt
    move 1: Volt Switch
    move 2: Hidden Power Grass
    move 3: Air Slash
    move 4: Thunderbolt
    item: Expert Belt
    ability: Levitate
    nature: Timid
    evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Fitting best on balanced and offensive teams, this set acts as a lure, targeting Ground-types that switch in expecting the common Choice Scarf set's Volt Switch. Hidden Power Grass hits all of them for major damage, KOing the 4x weak Seismitoad and Golem. Air Slash and Thunderbolt are the most reliable STABs and are meant to dish out optimal damage.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Expert Belt is the key item for this set, because the lack of residual damage when attacking creates the impression that Rotom-S is holding a Choice Scarf. Since Because it is not locked into any moves, Rotom-S can use much of its large arsenal to exploit the bluff. Will-O-Wisp can be used to cripple almost all of NU's physical attackers, but KOing them with the appropriate coverage move is more beneficial. Also, Rotom-S could use the ChestoRest strategy for good recovery while utilizing the same masquerade, but the lack of immediate power is noticeable. Pain Split could also be used for recovery, but the lack of coverage would hurt it more.</p>

    <p>Much like the Choice Scarf set, Steel-types such as Metang and Klang are good partners because they cover Rotom-S's weaknesses to Ice- and Rock-type moves. Wallbreakers such as Choice Band Sawk are great for disposing of walls that can handle all of Rotom-S's attacks, such as Lickilicky and Regice, and Sawk can possibly keep Stealth Rocks Rock off the field as well, aiding in Rotom-S's longevity. Lastly, more balanced teams can afford a Wish passer, such as Lickilicky or Alomomola, which helps keep it Rotom-S alive.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Defensive
    move 1: Pain Split
    move 2: Discharge / Substitute
    move 3: Air Slash
    move 4: Will-O-Wisp
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Levitate
    nature: Bold
    evs: 224 HP / 220 Def / 64 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>A surprising set for defensive teams, Rotom-S's role is to spread harmful status conditions on many unsuspecting Pokemon. Its Flying-type Flying typing allows it to switch in on the popular Fighting- and Ground-types of NU and burn them with Will-O-Wisp or hurt them with Air Slash. Discharge is preferred for its paralysis chance, and Rotom-S can create a mean para-flinching scenario with Air Slash. Pain Split is important because it's Rotom-S's most reliable recovery move. Substitute could be used instead of Discharge to ease prediction and handle more switch-ins that would threaten Rotom-S out.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The 64 Speed EVs allow Rotom-S to outspeed Timid Gorebyss before it can use Shell Smash, which is an important precaution. The rest of the EVs offer the highest amount of Leftovers recovery and maximize its bulk. It is possible to make Rotom-S specially defensive, but there is less it can wall on that side of the spectrum. An option it could use, though, is It can use the ChestoRest strategy for guaranteed recovery, but the more balanced the team and the longer matches drag on, the more the strategy proves to be underwhelming. Another option is to use Volt Switch, which turns Rotom-S into a bulky pivot.</p>

    <p>Metang is the best partner for this set because of its synergy with Rotom-S and its bulk, creating a sound defensive core. Defensive teams always appreciate Wish support, which comes best from Audino or Alomomola in this playstyle. Good partners that also fit the defensive playstyle are Taunt Misdreavus or and Rapid Spin Wartortle because they help patch up Rotom-S's weakness to Stealth Rock.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Some viable options for Rotom-S include a Choice Specs wallbreaker set and a Rain Dance set with Damp Rock, since as it can abuse use the weather itself with Thunder or pivot to a rain sweeper with Volt Switch. It can also set up with Sunny Day, but it doesn't fit well on sun teams. Rotom-S also has access to dual screens, but its lack of reliable recovery leaves it outclassed by Musharna. A Life Orb set with Substitute and Pain Split is also viable, but it is often underwhelming with the lack of coverage. Rotom-S can take the annoying path with Confuse Ray, Thunder Wave, and Air Slash, but any strategy dependent on luck is unreliable. Some moves that it can possibly fit into a slot on the offensive sets to hit situational threats are Dark Pulse, Shadow Ball, Signal Beam, and Sucker Punch. A Charge Beam set is possible, but setup sweepers like such as Nasty Plot Misdreavus and Calm Mind Serperior are more reliable.</p> (Avoid using the word "since" in an analysis, as it's a bit too vague; replace it with either "as" or "because")

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Because of Rotom-S's lower low power, most dedicated special walls, such as Regice, Lickilicky, Audino, and Munchlax, can handle the offensive sets, such as Regice, Lickilicky, Audino, and Munchlax. Tanks can also take most of Rotom-S's attacks as long as they have an advantageous typing. For example, Piloswine is immune to Thunderbolt and Volt Switch and can deal damage back with super-effective super effective STAB Ice-type attacks. However, if any of these Pokemon are Tricked onto a Choice Scarf, they are severely crippled for the rest of the match. Electric-types such as Eelektross, Zebstraika Zebstrika, and Ampharos are able to switch in on Rotom-S's STABs with minimal damage, and most generally do not fear a Choice item being Tricked onto them. Also, faster Pokemon with super effective coverage such as Choice Scarf Jynx are able to revenge kill Rotom-S quite easily. Pokemon with Taunt such as Misdreavus are able to stop the defensive set from recovering, and Pokemon that don't fear status, such as Ursaring and RestTalk users,(AC) can generally handle that set.</p>

    Great job :D!

    GP Approved 2/2
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2013
  19. Lolk

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    K this is done and ready for upload! Thx @Rohail17 :)
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