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16:33 AOPSUser Two questions
16:34 AOPSUser 1. Does speed reduction mid-action affect the order that action?
16:34 AOPSUser IE: Icy Wind
16:34 Objection no
16:34 Objection otherwise turn order would get fucking complicated
The round begins with an Icy Wind from Mind, but the turn order is not changed action 1, as Pumyra flinches Pants with an Air Slash. Meanwhile, Camille uses a Fly on Pants. Then, Mind tries a Thunder, but misses! Pants seizes the initiative and Thunderpunches Camille, who Air Slashes him in return. Pumyra uses an Aura Sphere in the meantime. Mind then uses a Psychic on Pumyra, while Pants uses Rock Slide. Unfazed, Pumyra Aura Spheres and Camille Air Slashes, KOing Pants!
-Orcinus replaces Pants and orders.
-Lou/Atheno orders.
-I ref.
From a logical point of view, the turn-order ruling makes no sense.
Icy Wind is not delayed until the beginning of the next action, as the chilling wind takes effect immediately.
When ASB logic and simple reasoning take a backseat to convenience of reffing, something is wrong.
From a logical point of view, the turn-order ruling makes no sense.
Icy Wind is not delayed until the beginning of the next action, as the chilling wind takes effect immediately.
When ASB logic and simple reasoning take a backseat to convenience of reffing, something is wrong.
We had a huge debate on IRC about this, and we agreed that this is the way it works in-game, so this is the way it works in ASB.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
EDIT: SDS agrees.
18:10 Gerard what would happen if a pokemon has it's spead reduced in the middle of the round
18:10 SevenDeadlySins speeds are locked at the beginning of each action
All right Purple Boss, guess you're up to salvage this...
Gengar: Thunderbolt (Togekiss) ~ Sludge Bomb (Togekiss) ~ Thunderbolt (Togekiss)
Sub 1) IF Tomohawk targets your partner with Quash THEN Taunt Togekiss
Sub 2) IF Togekiss has Endured, target Tomohawk until Tomohawk is KOed.
KO Sub: IF Togekiss faints, target Tomohawk.
Mr. Mime: Psychic (Togekiss) ~ Psychic (Togekiss) ~ Thunder (Togekiss)
Sub 1) IF Tomohawk targets your partner with Quash THEN Taunt Togekiss
Sub 2) IF Togekiss uses Endure THEN Encore it once and target Tomohawk for all remaining actions or until Tomohawk is KOed.
KO Sub: IF Togekiss faints, Psychic Tomohawk.
Assuming that Leethoof's dead/dying with Lou/been kidnapped and I'm just going to post.
Camille: Protect ~ Extremespeed + Fly (Mind) ~ Cool Down
Pumyra: Air Slash (Mind) ~ Chill ~ Air Slash (Mind)
Also I'm assuming here that each half of Fly is treated as being comboed with ESpeed seperately, i.e. He goes up at +2 and comes down afterwards. If not, then I'd like to use Extremespeed * 2 instead from A2.
Purple Boss used Thunderbolt (Camille)!
It was protected!
Just for reference: (10+5*1.5-4*1.5)*1.5=17.25
-7 Energy
Mind used Psychic (Camille)!
It was protected!
Just for reference: 9+3+4*1.5-4*1.5=12
-6 Energy
Pumyra used Air Slash (Mind)!
Hit: [<=9000] 1555/10000 (Yes)
Crit: [<=625] 1076/10000 (No)
Calculation: 4+3+5*1.5-5*1.5=7
-5 Energy
Action 2:
Camille flew up high very quickly!
Purple Boss used Sludge Bomb (Camille)!
No he didn't
-5 Energy
Mind used Psychic (Camille)!
Yeah right
-10 Energy
Pumyra Chilled!
+12 Energy
Camille used Extremely Quick Fly (Mind)!
Hit: [<=9500] 8536/10000 (No)
Crit: [<=625] 7936/10000 (No)
Calculation: 13+3+1*1.5-3*1.5-1.75=11.25
-25.5 Energy
EN KO
Action 3:
Purple Boss used Thunderbolt (Pumyra)!
Crit: [<=625] 5881/10000 (No)
Para: [<=1000] 3236/10000 (No)
Calculation: (10+5*1.5-3*1.5)*1.5=19.5
-7 Energy
Mind used Psychic (Pumyra)!
Crit: [<=625] 4234/10000 (No)
-Sp.Def: [<=1000] 4439/10000 (No)
Calculation: (9+3+4*1.5-3*1.5)*1.5=20.25
-14 Energy
Camille must recharge!
Pumyra used Air Slash (Mind)!
Hit: [<=9000] 4709/10000 (Yes)
Crit: [<=625] 7239/10000 (No)
Calculation: 4+3+5*1.5-5*1.5=7
-5 Energy
END OF ROUND
Lou AAOO
Pumyra
HP: 35
EN: 28
Other: -1 Attack (permanent)
Camille
HP: 19
EN: -9
Other: -KOed
Orcinus XAAO (Light Screen 1r)
Pants
HP: -8
EN: 57
Other: KOed
Mind
HP: 58
EN: 13
Other: -1 Attack (permanent)
Purple Boss
HP: 90
EN: 81
Other: none
Arena: none
KOC: Camille
Well Lou is recovering (I hope) from a gunshot, and Leethoof hasn't posted actions, so Athenodoros saves the team from DQ.
*crowd cheers for the Harbingers*
The round begins with Camille Protecting itself from Purple Boss's Thuderbolt and Mind's Psychic. Then Pumyra unleashes an Air Slash, which is dampened by Light Screen, but it still damages Mind.
Camille then flies up into the air very quickly, evading Purple Boss's Sludge Bomb and Mind's Psychic. Weird, because it's slower than those two... Pumyra just chills, as Camille uses an Extremely Quick Fly on Mind. However, she has exhausted herself!
Purple Boss fires another Thunderbolt on Pumyra, while Mind uses Psychic on Pumyra. Pumyra fires another Air Slash at Mind.
-Lou('s team) sends our a new mon and orders.
-Orcinus orders.
-I ref.
I feel like Extreme Fly should have done more damage (4), and that Camille should have fainted after action 2, which means that his Pokes would have battered Pumyra a bit. Could we have those editted/discounted publicly before 'Lou' sends out?
I feel like Extreme Fly should have done more damage (4), and that Camille should have fainted after action 2, which means that his Pokes would have battered Pumyra a bit. Could we have those editted/discounted publicly before 'Lou' sends out?
Anyway, looks like Lou isn't around for this one either. So we send out Absol the Absol.
Absol: Night Slash (Mind) ~ Mega Horn (Mind) ~ Night Slash (Mind)
Pumyra: Hurricane (Mind) * 3
IF the Absol faints, switch targets to Gengar.
IF either Pokemon successfully uses a Protective/Evasive move targetting your target, switch targets.
IF Mind uses Endure, switch targets to Gengar from then on.
Action 2:
Mind used Mud-Slap (Absol)!
Hit self: [<=5000] 4115/10000 (Yes)
Calculation: 4+1*1.5-3*1.5=1
-3 Energy
Purple Boss used Focus Blast (Absol)!
Hit: [<=8700] 8597/10000 (Yes)
Crit: [<=625] 2523/10000 (No)
-SpDef: [<=1000] 6277/10000 (No)
Calculation: (12+5*1.5-2*1.5)*1.5=24.75
-12 Energy
Pumyra used Hurricane (Mind)!
Hit: [<=7000] 221/10000 (Yes)
Crit: [<=625] 5530/10000 (No)
Calculation: 6+3+5*1.5-5*1.5=9
-11 Energy
Absol used Megahorn (Mind)!
Hit: [<=8500] 4560/10000 (Yes)
Crit: [<=625] 3232/10000 (No)
Calculation: (12+5*1.5-3*1.5)*1.5=22.5
-8 Energy
Action 3:
Purple Boss used Focus Blast (Absol)!
Hit: [<=8700] 504310000 (Yes)
Crit: [<=625] 3015/10000 (No)
-SpDef: [<=1000] 5701/10000 (No)
Calculation: (12+5*1.5-2*1.5)*1.5=24.75
-16 Energy
Mind used Hyper Beam (Absol)!
Hit self: [<=5000] 1332/10000 (Yes)
Calculation: 4+1*1.5-3*1.5=1
-3 Energy
Pumyra used Hurricane (Mind)!
Hit: [<=7000] 1073/10000 (Yes)
Crit: [<=625] 1841/10000 (No)
Calculation: 6+3+5*1.5-5*1.5=9
-15 Energy
EN KO!
Absol used Night Slash (Mind)!
Crit: [<=1250] 5444/10000 (No)
Calculation: (7+3+5*1.5-3*1.5)*1.5=19.5
-4 Energy
Mind fainted!
END OF ROUND
Lou XXAO
Pumyra
HP: 35
EN: -5
Other: KOed
Camille
HP: 19
EN: -9
Other: KOed
Absol
HP: 46
EN: 88
Other: none
Orcinus XXAO
Pants
HP: -8
EN: 57
Other: KOed
Mind
HP: -13
EN: 3
Other: KOed
Purple Boss
HP: 90
EN: 45
Other: none
Arena: none
KOC: Camille, Pants, Mind, Absol
The round begins with Mind giving Absol a Fake Out, flinching it. Purple Boss tries a Focus Blast on Absol, but misses. Pumyra uses a Hurricane on Mind, confusing it for 4 actions.
*CCC section of the crowd boos*
Purple Boss hits Absol with a Focus Blast, while Mind hits itself in its confusion. Pumyra hits Mind with yet another Hurricane while Absol uses a Megahorn on Mind.
*"BS HAX" shouts materialize from the crowd*
Purple Boss hits yet another Focus Blast on Absol, who Night Slashes Mind. Mind hits itself again. Pumyra uses a Hurricane on Mind just before Absol uses his Night Slash. Absol has KOed Mind, but that last Hurricane has exhausted Pumyra!
-Nommy and Oros are automagically sent out.
-Orcinus orders.
-"Lou" orders.
-I ref.
Snorlax: Brick Break Absol x3
IF Absol uses Bounce on any action AND Absol is not protected, replace that action with Brick Break Combo
IF Absol uses Endure, then whirlpool that action
IF Absol is KOd, Ice Beam Dragonite
Gengar: Taunt Absol-Focus Blast Absol-Sludge Bomb Absol
IF Successful Protective/Evasive Action, then Sludge Bomb Dragonite and pushback
IF Absol uses Magic Coat when you are supposed to taunt it, Focus Blast Absol and push actions back
IF Absol is KOd, Sludge Bomb Dragonite
Purple Boss used Sludge Bomb (Oros)!
Crit: [<=625] 603/10000 (Yes)
Poison: [<=3000] 9740/10000 (No)
Calculation: [8+3+3+5*1.5-3*1.5]/2=8.5
-5 Energy
Oros used Thunder Wave (Purple Boss)!
-7 Energy
Nommy used Brick Break (Absol)!
Fail
-6 Energy
Action 2:
Oros used Protect (Absol)!
-7 Energy
Absol bounced up!
Purple Boss used Sludge Bomb (Oros)!
Full para: [<=2500] 6183/10000 (No)
Crit: [<=625] 1748/10000 (No)
Poison: [<=3000] 7180/10000 (No)
Calculation: [8+3+5*1.5-3*1.5]/2=7
-5 Energy
Nommy used Brick Break (Absol)!
Fail
-10 Energy
Absol used Bounce (Nommy)!
Crit: [<=625] 8238/10000 (No)
Para: [<=3000] 778/10000 (Yes)
Calculation: 9+5*1.5-3*1.5=12
-10 Energy
Action 3:
Oros used Bodyblock (Absol)!
-5 Energy
Absol used Perish Song!
-15 Energy
Purple Boss used Taunt (Absol)!
It hit Oros instead!
Full para: [<=2500] 4067/10000 (No)
-10 Energy
Nommy used Brick Break (Absol)!
It hit Oros instead!
Full para: [<=2000] 7108/10000 (No)
Crit: [<=625] 717/10000 (No)
Calculation: [(8+4*1.5-3*1.5)*2/3]/2=3.166
-14 Energy
The round begins with an Evasive Agility from Absol, evading Nommy's Brick Break. Then, Purple Boss used a Sludge Bomb on Oros, who Thunder Waves it in return. Oros then Protected Absol as Absol Bounced into the air. Nommy, once again, misses a Brick Break. Purple Boss uses another Sludge Bomb on Oros as Absol lands on Nommy.
*crowd is quiet*
Oros Bodyblocks Absol, who uses a Perish Song. Purple Boss Taunts Oros, and Nommy Brick Breaks Oros.
And now for some stall. Hopefully this can work.
Oros: Fly (Lax) ~ Dive (Lax) ~ Fly (Lax)
Absol: AgiliDodge ~ Bounce (Lax) ~ AgiliDodge
IF Lax faints AND you would otherwise target him, switch targets to GGar.
IF GGar uses Disable, his target uses their other move for the rest of the round.
IF Snorlax uses Counter, switch targets if applicable.
IF Snorlax uses Ice Beam in a combo at Dragonite, Dragonite uses the move he would otherwise use in a combo with itself and moves actions along.