Approved by Oglemi OP stolen from sweet jesus so ty sweet jesus for the op Thought it was time to bring this thread back. How it works Every 7 days or so, I will post a core that is commonly used in the current meta. The goal is to suggest a way to counter the core with one or 2 pokemon. You must then explain how your counter(s) will eliminate the core regardless of what happens (bar crits, misses and other hax forms (keep stuff reliable though, zap cannon or multiple focus blasts are very likely not to hit). This means if your counter does not counter the worst possible scenario, it is not valid. Let it be very clear that a counter must be able to come in on both pokemon of the core! For example, Sceptile is not a counter to Moltres as it can't come in on all of its moves, only 1HKO moltres before moltres can 1HKO back with HP Rock. You must include calcs in your post ! Points will be awarded each round and the user with the most points at the time I decide to stop this will be the winner. Leaderboard will be shown in the op. -post a 2 pokemon counter = 2 points -post a 1 pokemon counter = 4 points -prove another user his counter does not counter the core = 1 point You can only post 1 set of counter(s) per core, even if your core has been proven wrong! (Don't modify your post after being proved wrong, we'll catch you). You can prove other people wrong multiple times per round. A same pokemon cannot be used by two users! First one to post a pokemon is the only one to have the rights to use it during that round. However, if you don't have time to post now, you can reserve a maximum of 2 pokemon per round by posting so before they have been used. An example of what your post is expected to look like. Leaderboards Hide (Move your mouse to the hide area to reveal the content) Show Hide Hide Hide Molk-6 points Cherub Agent-4 points NfskMjmMal-4 points Speed Ghilliesniper-4 points Col49-1 points Scorpdestroyer-4 points FLCL-3 points Melvni-8 points Lolazo-4 points Mylo Xyloto-2 points Swamp Rocket-4 points Pkblizzard-2 points Slory-4 points Punchshroom-4 points Round 1: Slowking @ Choice Specs Trait: Regenerator EVs: 248 HP / 252 SAtk / 8 SDef Modest Nature - Psyshock - Surf - Fire Blast - Grass Knot Escavalier @ Choice Band Trait: Overcoat EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SDef Adamant Nature - Megahorn - Iron Head - Return - Pursuit Round 2: Absol @ Life Orb Trait: Super Luck EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SAtk Adamant Nature - Night Slash - Sucker Punch - Thunderbolt - Fire Blast Gallade (M) @ Life Orb Trait: Justified EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Def Adamant Nature - Close Combat - Zen Headbutt - Stone Edge - Night Slash Round 3: Aggron @ Choice Band Trait: Rock Head EVs: 116 HP / 252 Atk / 140 Spd Adamant Nature - Head Smash - Heavy Slam - Low Kick - Aqua Tail Moltres @ Choice Specs Trait: Pressure EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 Def Timid Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Flamethrower - Hurricane - U-turn - Sleep Talk Round 4(current): Samurott @ Life Orb Trait: Torrent EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 Atk Rash Nature - Hydro Pump - Ice Beam - Hidden Power [Grass] - Megahorn Entei @ Choice Band Trait: Pressure EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd Adamant Nature - Flare Blitz - ExtremeSpeed - Stone Edge - Hidden Power [Grass] There is Stealth Rock on both sides. Get posting guys!