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[13:51:46] <Shiv> hey
[13:52:31] <zerowing> hi
[13:53:01] <Shiv> okay
[13:53:06] <Shiv> so you are the wrathful leader right
[13:53:15] <Shiv> im pretty sure but not 100&
[13:53:17] <Shiv> %*
[13:53:41] <zerowing> lol
[13:53:54] <zerowing> why wanna know?
[13:54:09] <Shiv> because i want to talk to him
[13:54:12] <Shiv> and im pretty sure its you
[13:54:17] <Shiv> but its regarding the leader only
[13:54:30] <Shiv> lets say i have my sources too!
[13:55:09] <zerowing> lol
[13:55:10] <zerowing> ok
[13:55:12] <zerowing> yes I am
[13:55:31] <Shiv> okay right before im 100% about that
[13:55:36] <Shiv> please tell me the monk incident
[13:55:47] <Shiv> because supposedly only you are supposed to know about it
[13:55:49] <zerowing> he joined #bet
[13:55:54] <zerowing> and pmed me the topic
[13:55:55] <Shiv> okay good enough
[13:55:56] <Shiv> yeah
[13:55:59] <zerowing> which included all your members
[13:56:15] <Shiv> yeah good enough
[13:56:20] <Shiv> fucking chanserv and jackal!
[13:56:21] <Shiv> anyway
[13:56:27] <Shiv> seeing the game right now
[13:56:37] <Shiv> its pretty obvious mekkah's going to own both you and us
[13:56:39] <Shiv> right?
[13:57:49] <Shiv> or am i wrong to assume that!
[14:00:00] <Shiv> do you think mekkah will completely own us and you
[14:00:01] <zerowing> hmm ok?
[14:00:07] <Shiv> or do you still think you have a chance
[14:00:08] <zerowing> mekkah is scaring me
[14:00:15] <Shiv> well
[14:00:16] <Shiv> i had an idea
[14:00:17] <Shiv> :)
[14:00:23] <zerowing> i actually have info
[14:00:29] <zerowing> on someone mekkah needs
[14:00:32] <Shiv> share with me
[14:00:33] <Shiv> oh
[14:00:37] <Shiv> forget that
[14:00:38] <zerowing> to actually fully function
[14:00:41] <Shiv> mine is much more simpler
[14:00:44] <zerowing> his inspector
[14:00:45] <Shiv> and much more brutal
[14:01:08] <zerowing> ?
[14:01:17] <Shiv> well
[14:01:23] <Shiv> i dont know if itll win anyone the game
[14:01:32] <Shiv> but it will give me great sadistic pleasure to see mekkah die
[14:01:33] <Shiv> what say
[14:01:48] <Shiv> there's a good enough chance that he's protected at night
[14:01:52] <Shiv> so no point doing that right?
[14:02:00] <Shiv> (keep agreeing/disagreeing
[14:02:06] <Shiv> so i know where you stand)
[14:02:08] <zerowing> yea
[14:02:11] <Shiv> okay
[14:02:11] <Shiv> so
[14:02:18] <Shiv> the only way to kill mekkah would be to lynch him
[14:02:19] <Shiv> right?
[14:02:23] <zerowing> yes
[14:02:36] <Shiv> okay
[14:02:44] <Shiv> so there are 38 people alive right now
[14:02:49] <Shiv> out of which 13 are my mafia
[14:02:52] <Shiv> how many of yours?
[14:02:53] <zerowing> 9 me and 13 you
[14:02:53] <Shiv> 8?
[14:02:57] <Shiv> 9 alive?
[14:03:00] <Shiv> or 8 alive?
[14:03:00] <zerowing> yeah
[14:03:05] <zerowing> we started with 10
[14:03:07] <Shiv> okayh
[14:03:09] <zerowing> monk died
[14:03:11] <Shiv> so thats 22/38
[14:03:18] <Shiv> now say one of each dies
[14:03:22] <Shiv> that makes it 20/26
[14:03:25] <Shiv> 36*
[14:03:28] <Shiv> more than 50%
[14:03:34] <Shiv> we invent a plausible story
[14:03:45] <Shiv> that will make a few lustful also jump in
[14:04:09] <Shiv> sure, itll give away a good number of our members
[14:04:10] <Shiv> to each other
[14:04:16] <Shiv> but hell i dont care
[14:04:18] <zerowing> get one of your unimportant mafia to start the sotry
[14:04:26] <Shiv> as long as i get mekkah dead
[14:04:29] <Shiv> are you with me?
[14:04:31] <zerowing> yes
[14:04:40] <Shiv> dont backstab me okay
[14:04:41] <Shiv> lol
[14:04:45] <Shiv> im being totally honest
[14:04:47] <Shiv> if you're not with me
[14:04:52] <Shiv> ill find some other way
[14:04:56] <zerowing> i wont
[14:04:56] <Shiv> but this is the best and most brutal
[14:04:57] <zerowing> lol
[14:05:04] <Shiv> alright
[14:05:06] <zerowing> i have little chance to win anyway
[14:05:08] <Shiv> now help me think of a good story
[14:05:10] <Shiv> same here
[14:05:12] <Shiv> lets make a pact
[14:05:15] <Shiv> no killing each others men
[14:05:19] <zerowing> ok
[14:05:21] <Shiv> we destroy all lustful
[14:05:23] <Shiv> one by one!
[14:05:25] <zerowing> lol
[14:05:27] <Shiv> then we call it a draw
[14:05:34] <Shiv> im prepared to do that
[14:05:34] <zerowing> alright
[14:05:38] <zerowing> i will agree
[14:06:22] <Shiv> you 100% sure?
[14:06:37] <zerowing> yes
[14:07:31] <Shiv> okay great
[14:07:36] <Shiv> now help me design a great post
[14:07:44] <Shiv> that will convince some of the villagers too
[14:07:48] <zerowing> since i obvioualy know who everyone is
[14:08:01] <zerowing> i can just relay info
[14:08:14] <Shiv> what do you mean?
[14:08:14] <zerowing> ok
[14:08:22] <zerowing> i know all of my team
[14:08:25] <zerowing> i know your team
[14:08:27] <zerowing> so by that
[14:08:29] <Shiv> yeah i know that
[14:08:31] <zerowing> i know who is lustful
[14:08:32] <Shiv> you know who's clean
[14:08:34] <Shiv> yeah
[14:08:41] <Shiv> but what do you mean by relay info
[14:08:50] <zerowing> so you dont kill my men!
[14:08:59] <Shiv> sure
[14:09:04] <zerowing> ok
[14:09:05] <Shiv> is pidgeot79 a part of your men lol
[14:09:08] <zerowing> story wise
[14:09:10] <zerowing> yeah
[14:09:12] <Shiv> haha
[14:09:14] <Shiv> and bulblax too
[14:09:15] <Shiv> :)
[14:09:21] <zerowing> yea
[14:09:26] <Shiv> im not that bad see
[14:09:31] <Shiv> is gorm in them too?
[14:09:35] <zerowing> nope
[14:09:46] <Shiv> ah
[14:09:48] <Shiv> anyway
[14:09:57] <Shiv> lets design a story
[14:10:23] <zerowing> i see a few options
[14:10:27] <zerowing> you can either
[14:10:35] <zerowing> say something about him lying
[14:10:45] <zerowing> and that you have proof via an inspector
[14:11:11] <zerowing> ok there is no either
[14:11:20] <Shiv> lol
[14:11:22] <zerowing> we have the current majority
[14:11:25] <Shiv> yes
[14:11:30] <zerowing> so even if they suspect someone
[14:11:33] <Shiv> ok i got a good idea
[14:11:34] <zerowing> they cant lynch
[14:12:22] <Shiv> yes
[14:12:22] <Shiv> okay
[14:12:23] <Shiv> anyway
[14:12:26] <Shiv> can you pass this message
[14:12:28] <Shiv> to all your mafia guys
[14:12:39] <zerowing> yeah
[14:12:39] <zerowing> yeah
[14:12:39] <Shiv> tell them to NOT vote
[14:12:43] <Shiv> till they see a mekkah vote come up
[14:12:47] <zerowing> ok
[14:12:56] <Shiv> if mekkah goes 'shiv is mafia'
[14:13:19] <Shiv> i will go 'hey mekkah fuck you so what if i am i am still lynching you and we hold a fucking majority here bitch'
[14:13:25] <Shiv> thats the best thing ever
[14:13:37] <zerowing> lol
[14:14:19] <Shiv> 'you shouldnt have decided to act all powerful and all knowning otherwise this wouldnt have happened to you bitch!'
[14:15:24] <Shiv> okay anyway you good with that?
[14:15:28] <Shiv> ill pm my guys this convo
[14:15:33] <zerowing> currently we are killing the lustful inspector
[14:15:34] <zerowing> at night
[14:15:35] <Shiv> if he doesnt lynch one of us
[14:15:38] <Shiv> oh cool man :)
[14:15:39] <zerowing> which will weaken him
[14:15:42] <Shiv> that wont happen though
[14:15:51] <Shiv> your kill will be redirected towards one of us
[14:15:53] <Shiv> remember
[14:16:02] <Shiv> we WERE killing pidgeot79
[14:16:08] <Shiv> but now ill tell him to cancel that out
[14:16:11] <Shiv> anyway
[14:16:17] <Shiv> if he attempts to blame any of us
[14:16:27] <Shiv> that person from my team will proceed like shown above
[14:16:31] <Shiv> otherwise
[14:16:34] <Shiv> one of us will do it
[14:16:38] <Shiv> i say dak will actually
[14:16:44] <Shiv> because mekkah already suspects him
[14:16:48] <Shiv> so why not confirm those suspicions
[14:16:50] <Shiv> or maybe i will!
[14:16:52] <zerowing> hmm
[14:16:54] <zerowing> lol
[14:16:56] <Shiv> anyway im pming everyone this log
[14:17:01] <zerowing> same
[14:17:02] <Shiv> thats why i gave you more details here lol
[14:17:03] <Shiv> :)

Best plan ever. And we would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
 

obi

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Anyway, m0nkfish, the fact is that you were dead and thus out of the game. Your reasoning is like "Well, I could have been given the role of inspector instead, so I might as well hack into people's PM boxes and read their roles!" The result may be the same, but the point of the game is that not everyone has every power, and when you die, that's it, you're out. One of the major reasons to kill someone is because you don't like the trail they are on, so you shut them up. Talking after you are dead violates this principle.
 

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If we should blame anyone, its ChanServ!

also, come to think of it though we were really p. dumb. The first night we talked all night about plans and stuff and the channel was really useful. We put the roles in the topic so we could remember. But honestly after that, shiv set up the forums and we really really should have realized "hmmm those names in the topic are really gonna get us in trouble later". Furthermore, even if we did set mass ban, we should have STILL had a password. We just werent thinking. Oh well :(

Moral: Next mafia game, when you make a channel (make no mistake it is the best way to communicate), make it on a different server (NOT dejatoons) so people cannot whois you, and make sure it has mass ban AND a password. and dont put the roles in the topic ;_____;

PS mekkah i really do have to applaud you, that was some job you did. I obviously didnt expect you to believe my whole speech i gave you in pm, it would be dependant on me getting the role of stalker right. I took a guess, it was wrong lol what you gonna do. It was a last ditch effort anyways until we needed to team up with zerowing, I was mole so i might as well kamikaze myself.

FURTHERMORE, i was seriously considering doing a harry potter one of these lol, mekkah you stole my plan. I have several roles drawn up too. Maybe we should talk about it!
 

Sunday

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I'm up for HP Mafia, make me Dumbledor please :P

and Lord_Sunday for giving the Psychic AIDs.
Yeh lol, sorry about that Gorm. On the second night I was like, "Hmmm... Gorm or m0nk? They both seem suspucious..." Well at least I got one right!

And If the game had gone on longer I'm sure I would have been more useful XD
 
Oh yeah, I wanted to ask...was that mention about the corpse being strange smelling actually a clue referencing M0nkfish (or me, even), or was that just a red herring? Apologies if that was asked earlier, I haven't read through the whole topic yet.
 
actually, the guess about it being me was surprisingly accurate, because it was actually me who was most supporting the killing of hipmonlee

and yeas hipmonlee was a betrayer kill
 
PS mekkah i really do have to applaud you, that was some job you did. I obviously didnt expect you to believe my whole speech i gave you in pm, it would be dependant on me getting the role of stalker right. I took a guess, it was wrong lol what you gonna do. It was a last ditch effort anyways until we needed to team up with zerowing, I was mole so i might as well kamikaze myself.
Heh, during that last night half of you tried to find my role or at least my source. I was hoping I could at least get you to "inspect" more people and vote with me during the day, thinking you're making yourself clean, while in fact I knew #bet ever since Night 2 or so.

FURTHERMORE, i was seriously considering doing a harry potter one of these lol, mekkah you stole my plan. I have several roles drawn up too. Maybe we should talk about it!
if you're not in sure. I already have all the roles though but I might have to work out some kinks in the balance of it.
 

Shiv

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yeah chanserv sucked last game :)

you were great mekkah, especially for a lustful. after a while, killing you was the only pleasure left in the game heh.

anyway, how come you knew about #bet since night 2?
 
anyway, how come you knew about #bet since night 2?
Blue Kirby found it and PMed me, unsure of what to do and afraid that he might die if he came out with it or kept it to himself. Of course, he didn't know that he couldn't die at this point.

Anyway, just to show you how much I loved this game: my total amount of PMs scored (in- and out box) is now over 800. I think it used to be a little below 700.

@Lord_Sunday: as it is, it is about this one's difficulty, which I believe is doable as long as (BAN ME PLEASE) don't fuck it up.
 
Yeah, I see that now, I just didn't know during the game. You were on a top priority for inspection though because you talked a lot, which meant you would be handy to have 100% clean (and a disaster if you turned out Wrathful).
 
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