I am so stupid.
You are missing Clefable, Wooper, and Bidoof. Also, Hustle Deino is pretty good. I can't access the spreadsheet currently, can someone give the stats for Exploud please? I was thinking about trying it out on a team.
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Exploud has 127/111/77/111/89/83
I would also like to point out this guy:
Snorlax: 178/122/72/72/122/33
Pretty much a less bulky Munchlax but if used right he's still a beast.
Eh. Snorlax has Immunity to protect from toxic, but a burn will still cripple him. Anyway, from this I can see a monotype Normal team in order.
Snorlax/Chansey/Bibarel are all really solid as walls, not to mention Furfrou. Exploud and Chatot get Boomburst. Anyway, has anyone tried a ResTalk Curse Snorlax set bc I might if it is good?
Please play this now that it is implemented!
There is a small issue, however. Some things are just too bulky. In the near future I'd like to implement something that nerfs defensive mons that are near impossible to take down. Think azumarill, audino, slowpoke, amoonguss.
However once I figure out a check to nerf their defensive stats this should be great! When they aren't present it already is
There is a small issue, however. Some things are just too bulky. In the near future I'd like to implement something that nerfs defensive mons that are near impossible to take down. Think azumarill, audino, slowpoke, amoonguss.
However once I figure out a check to nerf their defensive stats this should be great! When they aren't present it already is
I have a snorlax with Curse, Rest, Return and Crunch. I've been wondering how to go about adding sleep talk without losing coverage or STAB but Idk :/ But if the snorlax gets off even a curse or two it gets much harder to take down.
Do you have a cleric? This meta is so much fun; BO gets Azumarill/Clefable/Wooper, and Cloyster would be a big threat too if not for Quag/Wooper. Using them on a team could be fun. Bidoof/Wooper/Clefable core? Are there any other good Unaware defensives Pokémon in this meta that I am missing?
AWailOfATail
viva la darmz
All hail Serene Grace:
Death (Dunsparce) @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SDef / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Headbutt
- Rock Slide
- Roost
Dunsparce now has the stats 145/101/101/94/94/65, making it a much better wall than before.
The set I run is above. I run Thunder Wave over Body Slam because of Ghosts coughaegislashcough and Headbutt and Rock Slide for the flinch. Roost is for recovery, and that's about it.
Also, I can say that Knock Off Alomomola can actually do some damage. Base 96 Attack isn't too bad for a wall.
Death (Dunsparce) @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SDef / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Headbutt
- Rock Slide
- Roost
Dunsparce now has the stats 145/101/101/94/94/65, making it a much better wall than before.
The set I run is above. I run Thunder Wave over Body Slam because of Ghosts coughaegislashcough and Headbutt and Rock Slide for the flinch. Roost is for recovery, and that's about it.
Also, I can say that Knock Off Alomomola can actually do some damage. Base 96 Attack isn't too bad for a wall.
AWailOfATail
viva la darmz
Truthfully, actual base 600 pokemon aren't that big of a problem. I mean, they keep their exact same stats and now there are other things that overshadow them. Want a special sweeper? Use Abra, not Deoxys. And now there's MUCH better bulk than 100/100/100.
I think he meant that the stat distributions in this metagame do not follow the "standard" stat distributions for existing 600 BST mons, which usually have all stats >= 75
That's not true at all, plenty of 600 BST mons (Tyranitar, Goodra, Metagross, Shaymin-S, Metagross, etc...) have base stats lower than 75.
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60/30/165/45/60/240
top kek. But Defensive Magikarp would be fun to use.
90/150/120/80/60/100
Gets Dragon Dance and Sheer Force Fire Fang, Crunch, Zen Headbutt. Also gets Dragon Rush, which would be insanely powerful, but has a lopsided accuracy.
55/194/166/46/46/92
A wonderful Scarfer with Sheer Force STAB Crabhammer (Which was recently buffed to a 100 BP in Gen VI). It's other moves are rather shallow. It still gets Rock Slide and Brick Break. An agility set could also work, I suppose.
91/157/52/124/52/124
We all know how effective Sharpedo already is. Now it's really just better. It's not like you used his defenses anyway. A LO or even a banded set is quite possible.
96/151/19/19/19/118
252 Atk Toxic Boost Zangoose Facade (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Hippowdon: 246-291 (58.5 - 69.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
76/161/85/68/85/127
Anorith gets Swords Dance and its movepool is amazing. That's all there is to say, really.
92/120/157/65/65/102
At first, the stats may seem underwhelming, but that next to Shell Smash and you've got something terrific.
48/39/29/203/106/174
Give it a Sash and have Magic Guard. With Psyshock around, you can put a dent in everything, even walls.
3/229/114/76/76/102
OP Ability? Check. Insane Attack? Check. STAB Priority? Check. Seriously, with a Focus Sash/Lum Berry, heck even without, this thing could be a serious threat. If you play smart and scout for a while and take out Shedinja's counters, nothing can touch it. And now it also has an usable Speed.
82/141/76/53/100/147
Better Attack, Speed, Swords Dance and STAB Priority.
97/171/102/59/73/98
An already excellent combination of Swords Dance/Dragon Dance and Mold Breaker, now with an insane Attack.
unfortunately increased critical hit chances don't count as secondary effects, so crabhammer isn't boosted by sheer force.
55/194/166/46/46/92
A wonderful Scarfer with Sheer Force STAB Crabhammer (Which was recently buffed to a 100 BP in Gen VI). It's other moves are rather shallow. It still gets Rock Slide and Brick Break. An agility set could also work, I suppose.
While it was initially decided against for being too confusing, the "500 Clause" is now going to be a part of scalemons. Under this the most powerful pokemon are nerfed a bit so that more pokemon have a fair shot (this is particularly aimed at defensive threats.)
The starting list will be:
Smeargle
Munchlax
Ferrothorn
Clefable
Alomomola
Skarmory
Audino
Foongus
Amoonguss
Slowpoke
Kangaskhan-Mega
Gothitelle
Gothorita
Gothita
Medicham-Mega
Mawile-Mega
Azumarill
Clefairy
Marill
Quagsire
Wooper
I just sort of came up with that on a whim, more can be added.
This does lift a few bans, but huge and pure power are still banned outside of megas.
The starting list will be:
Smeargle
Munchlax
Ferrothorn
Clefable
Alomomola
Skarmory
Audino
Foongus
Amoonguss
Slowpoke
Kangaskhan-Mega
Gothitelle
Gothorita
Gothita
Medicham-Mega
Mawile-Mega
Azumarill
Clefairy
Marill
Quagsire
Wooper
I just sort of came up with that on a whim, more can be added.
This does lift a few bans, but huge and pure power are still banned outside of megas.
How exactly do you decided that something is 'powerful'? You can't pick random mons.
I've seen them all be ridiculous firsthand, and this is an autocratic metagame so I can of can and will do that.
Solosis and Abra are dangerous pokemon to face. Abra can just have a focus sash and magic guard so you need two pokemon with piority to stop it. Solosis is just a slower and bulkier version of Abra ( and hits harder and gets regenerator ). Over 200 Special Attack Base is stronger than Mega Mewtwo Y.
I think you need a client to do that, which I may be able to set up with Oiawesome.
Sandshrew has some bad special defense, I imagine most sandschrews having assault vest, being a donphan clone.
why no ferroseed?
Ferroseed basically does the same thing as Ferrothorn, I think Ferrothorn repersents it's entire evolution line.
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