Sceptile (Analysis)

As far as the Dream World ability is concerned. If you use a White Herb with Leaf Storm you won't lose your Sp. Atk (the first time) and you get a speed boost. Potentially setting up a sweep. It also sets up the use of Acrobat which can be potentially lethal to common Fighting types. I also think this can partner well with BP Venomoth or Ninjask/Blaziken provided you can switch into a non threat or pass a substitute along. If it gets a safe entry boosted Earthquakes (Physical BP) or Dragon Pulse (Butteryfly Dance BP) can do serious bodily harm to most threats.

I'd personally run
Hasty White Herb
Leaf Storm
Acrobat
Earthquake
Dragon Pulse/HP Fire/HP Fighting

Bronzor and Skarmory resist Dragon Pulse set, The Fire Rotom and Ballooned Heatran resist the HP Fire set although you can pop the balloon with acrobat, and Electric/Flying types resist the HP Fighting set.

I don't know what I'd do for EV spread yet, gotta think on it, Its obviously meant to be a mixsweeper though.

Even without BP support it can be a contender. You know ... once we can start doing sets for Dream World abilities
Unburden Sceptile has already been released.

And seeing as it's now no longer a TM, Dragon Pulse is illegal with Unburden on Sceptile.

As for an EV spread, 252 Attack / 252 Sp.Atk / 4 Speed (assuming 30 IV in Speed and a Hasty nature) allows it out-speed Jolly Excadrill outside of Sandstorm without any boosts, and inside Sandstorm with +2 Speed or an Unburden boost. Sceptile's unboosted attack stat is quite pitiful, even with 252 EVs, and its Sp.Atk still isn't anything to write home about. So, yeah, Swords Dance/Nasty Plot Baton Passers are a must with this set.
 
I mixed up Egg Moves and Previous Gen Only Moves on Serebii, my bad. Hopefully the 3rd version has move tutors, and one of them has Dragon Pulse. Until then I'll use HP Fire (If I use Sceptile at all). Thanks for the EV Spread and pointing out the Dragon Pulse thing
 
I read somewhere, the UT Sceptile thread I think, that Unburden Mixtile wants 12 Speed to outspeed... something. Can't recall what, but...
 
I understand that the LO set is already done, but I just want to ask why the LO set on Smogon currently has synthesis, and the one you posted has 4 attacking moves. Is it because of the new weather conditions or for better coverage? Because without synthesis Sceps aquires damage quite easily.
 

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[Overview]
  • Sceptile, the infamous lord of the forest. Fast, frail, and dangerous.
  • Unfortunately, somewhat outclassed by Whimsicott as a SubSeeder, who has the advantage of Mischievous Heart to get priority on Leech Seed, as well as access to Taunt, Encore, and U-turn.
  • However, Sceptile's benefits of actually being able to hit hard, by virtue of a high Special Attack stat and a strong movepool give him an advantage as an offensive Subseeder.
[SET]
name: Life Orb
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Focus Blast / Earthquake
move 3: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice
move 4: Dragon Pulse
item: Life Orb
nature: Timid / Hasty
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

Set Comments:
  • Leaf Storm is your powerful STAB attack - for reference, it does 44% minimum to Choice Scarf Hydreigon. However, there is a grand total of seven types resistant to Grass, so you will need plenty of coverage. You could have Giga Drain instead, which helps offset Life Orb recoil, but this gives you a massive, massive reduction in power.
  • For your first coverage move, you will want a way to stop Steel-types. Focus Blast is a powerful move that works off Sceptile's higher attacking stat, and hits most Steel-types for good damage, and also breaks Hydreigon. However, it is very unreliable due to the 70% accuracy. On the other hand, Earthquake is a reliable attack that deals good damage, especially to Heatran, and also helps against Fire- and Poison-types. However, it runs into difficulties especially against those carrying Balloon as their item, and the lower power can be fatal at times.
  • The next slot is also necessary for Steel-types, this time those that can avoid the attack chosen above. Hidden Power Fire is necessary to stop those that are not hit super effectively by one or both of Earthquake or Focus Blast, such as Skarmory, Ferrothorn, and Scizor. It also hits the Bug- and Grass-types that also resist your STAB, such as Yanmega and Whimsicott. Hidden Power Ice is also an option if you want to hit Shaymin-S and Salamence harder, or if you want to tie with other base 120 Speed Pokemon.
  • Lastly, Dragon Pulse is necessary to defeat Dragon-types, as with Hidden Power Fire you cannot get an Ice-type attack. Hence, you score good damage on all dragons. If you do use Hidden Power Ice, you can still use Dragon Pulse for Hydreigon, Latias, and Latios, but you also have the alternative of using a different coverage attack, such as either Focus Blast or Earthquake, or Rock Slide to hit Flying-types.
Additional Comments:
  • If running Hidden Power Ice, you can run a 31 Speed IV and can therefore tie with other similarly natured base 120 Speed Pokemon with 252 Speed EVs, which is usually the most judicious course of action in this circumstance.
  • However, Hidden Power Fire means you are running a 30 Speed IV, which therefore means you cannot tie with other Base 120 Speed Pokemon.
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    For this reason, generally the most happy best course of action in this case with Hidden Power Fire is to run 228 Spe EVs, allowing you to beat the positive base 116 Speed Pokemon, Whimsicott and Zebstrika, and everything below, with a Timid nature.
  • After this, you should maximise your Special Attack stat, and stick all the remaining EVs in HP.
  • If you are running Earthquake over Focus Blast, you should run a Hasty nature and invest your extra HP EVs in Attack to get more use out of them.
  • If you wish, you could run a 29 HP IV in order to minimise Life Orb recoil, but this means you slightly weaken the power of Hidden Power, and have less survivability due to the lower HP, though the difference in all cases is usually negligible.
Teammates & Counters:
  • Stealth Rock support is very useful - it heavily damages Ice-, Fire-, Bug-, and Flying-types especially, all of whom are dangerous to Sceptile. It also causes more damage to accumulate to other foes.
  • There are many ways to stop Sceptile – its main STAB is resisted by all of Bug-, Fire-, Grass-, Poison-, Flying-, Dragon-, and Steel-types.
  • Hence, you'll want some Pokemon that have considerable offensive synergy with Sceptile to work alongside it - Fire-types are a good idea in order to scare off Ferrothorn and Scizor, among others, while Rock-types are also a good idea to beat such threats as Volcarona and Zapdos. Thus, Heatran and Terrakion make good partners.
  • Magnezone and Dugtrio can trap and KO Steel-types with their STAB moves.
  • Sceptile itself can break bulky Ground- and Water-types and can lure out and weaken Steel-types with smart prediction, and so is a good partner to sweepers who dislike having to deal with these Pokemon, such as Tyranitar and Salamence.
[SET]
name: SubSeed
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Giga Drain
move 4: Hidden Power Fire
item: Leftovers
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 28 SpD / 228 Spe
ivs: 7 HP

Set Comments:
  • Fastest *natural* user of Substitute + Leech Seed in the game (go away Erufuun/Monmen), and unlike the cotton balls, actually has some kind of offensive prowess to go along with it, which allows it to muscle through most of the counters to Erufuun itself.
  • This means it can use Giga Drain as a STAB move in order to obtain even more healing (though beware of Tentacruel).
  • Hidden Power Fire obtains a clean 2HKO even on Careful 252/252 Nattorei (though possibly not factoring in Leftovers). This It also allows you to OHKO most Scizor after Stealth Rock.
Additional Comments:
  • Maximum Special Attack is a must in order to make the most of its biggest advantage over Erufuun: its significantly higher greater offensive prowess and ability to hit hard.
  • 228 Speed EVs gives just enough Speed to outrun Jolly Scarftar, because there is nothing else more really worth aiming for.
  • 7 HP IV gives the maximum threshold for Leech Seed recovery, and the remaining EVs are dumped in Special Defense.
  • Hidden Power Ice is an alternative, but the Fire attack is really necessary to deal with your biggest threat, Ferrothorn, so it is not recommended.
  • Leaf Storm could be used over Giga Drain, but is generally a lesser option due to the poor side-effect, especially as Sceptile does not intend to be switching often.
Teammates & Counters:
  • Entry hazard support is immensely helpful with this set, since Sceptile will be causing plenty of switches. Deoxys-S, Ferrothorn, and Skarmory can set up both Stealth Rock and Spikes, while Forretress has access to all three entry hazards.
  • Sceptile can generally set up fairly easily on bulky Water-types. Just watch out for Jellicent, who can Taunt you before you can get your strategy going. Ground-types such as Hippowdon are also notable set-up options. In order to lure them in, you can use a Fire-type such as Chandelure or Heatran.
  • Sceptile will have difficulties with Conkeldurr, who can use Payback to break the Substitute and then Mach Punch away. Be sure to find some way to deal with it, such as Gliscor or Skarmory.
[Team Options]
  • Sceptile needs entry hazard support as it will be forcing a number of switches through its powerful Leaf Storms – Stealth Rock is particularly powerful as it does more damage against several common types that resist Sceptile’s Grass-type STAB.
  • It is probably a good idea to trap and OHKO Steel-types so that Sceptile can spam Leaf Storm more effectively. Magnezone can trap and OHKO such threats as Ferrothorn and Scizor with Hidden Power Fire and has STAB Thunderbolt to use on Skarmory.
  • Dugtrio can also trap Steel-types and do serious damage with STAB Earthquake, and also has the ability to trap and execute Blissey.
  • On the subject of trapping, Tyranitar or Scizor can be a useful partner for Pursuit support, being able to rid you of Blissey and possibly Chansey, and in tandem with Tickle + Encore Wobbuffet makes for an almost guaranteed removal.
  • Sceptile can force out and weaken an opponent’s team thanks to its strength and Speed, and also has the ability to combat both bulky Water- and Ground-types. This makes it a useful partner to Fire-types such as Blaziken and Rock-types such as Rhyperior.
[Optional Changes]
  • Swords Dance / Leaf Blade / Earthquake / Rock Slide for a powerful sweeper set, though low Attack stat means that this is rarely worthwhile.
  • SubSeed can be a useful set, thanks to Sceptile’s ridiculous Speed stat, but is for the most part outclassed by Whimsicott.
  • Physical movepool – Leaf Blade, Earthquake, Rock Slide, X-Scissor, Crunch, Dragon Claw, Bullet Seed, Brick Break, Pursuit, Quick Attack.
  • Endeavor + Focus Sash lead.
  • Substitute + Pinch Berry + Overgrow could work, as Sceptile can function in a similar fashion to Petaya Berry Empoleon, albeit with a worse STAB, worse defences, and worse defensive typing.
[Counters]
  • Bronzong and Skarmory can take just about any attack should Sceptile lack Hidden Power Fire, and Skarmory can OHKO back with Brave Bird while Bronzong can do whatever the hell it likes. To a lesser extent, Ferrothorn and Scizor also fall under this label.
  • Special walls such as Blissey, Chansey, and specially defensive Porygon2 can easily take a Leaf Storm, and recover off the damage. All three can also use Thunder Wave to make Sceptile useless while Porygon2 can attack back with Ice Beam.
  • Other defensive Flying-types such as Dragonite and Zapdos can take on and defeat Sceptile as well.
  • As far as Poison-types go, Roserade can easily take a Leaf Storm but dislikes Hidden Power, while and most other specially defensive Poison-types with a resistance to Leaf Storm do relatively well as well.
  • Celebi has impressive defensive stats and can wall Sceptile reasonably convincingly.
  • Lastly, Fire-types. Heatran and Volcarona have 4x Grass resistances and, although Heatran is weak to Earthquake and Volcarona to Rock Slide, both can OHKO with their STAB Fire-type moves.
[Dream World]
  • Sceptile gets the impressive ability Unburden from the Dream World, which is a blessing on almost any other Pokemon, but a bit wasted on Sceptile.
  • Essentially, when Sceptile loses an item, its Speed doubles, so this would work extremely well alongside a Pinch Berry and Substitute.
  • The only other real way to activate this ability is to use the Grass Jewel, which boosts Leaf Storm or Energy Ball once and is then used up, activating Unburden. Alternatively, you could try running it alongside Focus Sash, but this runs into immense problems when you factor in sandstorm, entry hazards and other such residual damage.
  • Unfortunately, Sceptile’s already immense Speed stat means that Unburden is more often than not a waste of time. Even when running a Pinch Berry set, Overgrow is usually the better option thanks to the Grass-type boost.

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Secptile@Grass Jewel
Unburden
Adamant / Jolly
4 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Spd
~Swords Dance
~Leaf Blade
~X-Scissor
~Quick Attack / Acrobatics / Rock Slide
 

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Secptile@Grass Jewel
Unburden
Adamant / Jolly
4 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Spd
~Swords Dance
~Leaf Blade
~X-Scissor
~Quick Attack / Acrobatics / Rock Slide
that set isnt very efficent with the use of evs.... ive actually been using sceptile extensivly on po and got to below 1000 ranks with this set.

Sceptile @earth jewel
unburden
adamant
148hp/252 atk/108spe
swords dance
leaf blade
eq
dragon claw

with 108 lets you out speed dory in sand after boost rest go into hp. the earth gem is really so you can kill scizor / ferrothorn (+2 for scizor and +4 for ferro) assuming they aren't physically bulky variants. not saying this should be a set because its in the ac already so i guess this point in kinda useless....
 

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[Overview]

<p>Ah, Sceptile.; The the infamous lord of the forest. Fast, frail, and dangerous. While most Grass-types are often looked down on competitively, either because of the sheer number of common weaknesses or competition with Ferrothorn, Breloom, and others, Sceptile stands out from the crowd thanks not only to its impressive Speed stat, but also its very diverse movepool in both offense and support. Now that Shaymin-S has been declared Uber, Sceptile is once again the fastest user of Substitute + Leech Seed in OU, and unlike Whimsicott, who admittedly has the advantage in this area with its Prankster ability and larger support movepool, Sceptile actually has the stats to present a coherent offensive threat, making it more useful for situations where one cannot simply annoy the opponent to death.</p>

<p>However, in competitive terms the competition from Whimsicott and other fast Grass-types is the least of Sceptile's worries. While Sceptile's base 120 Speed stat still allows it to outpace just about the entirety of the unboosted OU metagame, its base 105 Special Attack stat is suddenly underwhelming, and its base 85 Attack stat is more or less useless. Hence, it is a much less threatening presence than it was even in 4th Gen, and thus is relegated to the sad and lonely realms of the niche and the gimmick once more. Still, if you want a fast, powerful special attacker cum revenge killer, or an annoyer who can actually hit back, Sceptile is always there to be used.</p>

[SET]
name: Life Orb
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Focus Blast / Earthquake
move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Dragon Pulse / Earthquake
item: Life Orb
nature: Timid / Hasty
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is Sceptile's most powerful attacking set, which takes full advantage of both its special attacking prowess and large offensive movepool. Leaf Storm is Sceptile's most powerful STAB attack, and powerful it is indeed—for reference, it does 44% minimum to Choice Scarf Hydreigon. However, there are a grand total of seven types resistant to Grass, so you will need plenty of coverage options in your other moveslots. For your first coverage move, you will want a way to stop Steel-types. Focus Blast is the strongest option here, easily OHKOing Magnezone, Hydreigon, and Heatran with Stealth Rock, as well as getting the 2HKO on Ferrothorn. However, it is very unreliable due to its 70% accuracy. On the other hand, Earthquake is a reliable attack that deals good damage, especially to Heatran, and also helps against Fire- and Poison-types. However, it runs into difficulties especially against those carrying Balloon as their item, and the lower power can be fatal at times. It also leaves you much more vulnerable against Ferrothorn, Scizor, and Skarmory.</p>

<p>In the third slot, if you are happy to use Focus Blast then an option to get rid of Flying-types, who which resist Grass-, Fighting-, and Ground-type attacks, is most recommended. Sceptile's best option here is Hidden Power Ice, which is helpful particularly in order to take care of Tornadus and Thundurus, which is great since Sceptile outruns and OHKOes both, making it a useful revenge killer should the situation arise. It is also useful if you want to hit Garchomp and Salamence harder. However, particularly if you have chosen Earthquake, Hidden Power Fire is also worth consideration, if only for the necessity of being able to reliably beat Ferrothorn, Scizor, and Skarmory. The last slot is rather up to personal preference than anything else, as Sceptile has a multitude of potential targets. Dragon Pulse is more or less necessary if you are using Hidden Power Fire in order to defeat Dragon-types, and even if you are using Hidden Power Ice, you can still use Dragon Pulse for Hydreigon, Latias, and Latios. However, in this situation you may want to look at some alternatives. Rather than running one or the other of Focus Blast and Earthquake, you can elect to run both and drop Dragon Pulse, solving quite a few coverage issues. Rock Slide is also an option, preventing Butterfly Dance Volcarona from using Sceptile as set-up fodder, and also hitting other Bug-, Fire-, and Flying-types super effectively.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Since Sceptile is a frail hit-and-run attacker, the only two stats that will really matter are Speed and Special Attack, and thus both should be maximized. The remaining EVs can be shoved into HP or Attack, should you be running a physical attack as a coverage move. In the same way, a Hasty nature should be used over Timid if you are using a physical attack. If you wish, you could run a 29 HP IV in order to minimise Life Orb recoil, but this means you slightly weaken the power of Hidden Power, and have less survivability due to the lower HP, though the difference in all cases is usually negligible. In terms of other options, most of Sceptile's best options have already been covered, though you could have Giga Drain as your main STAB attack, which helps offset Life Orb recoil, but this gives you a massive, massive reduction in power.</p>

<p>As a Grass-type, Sceptile is weak to Ice-, Fire-, Bug-, Flying-, and Poison-type attacks, and the first four of these are all weak to Stealth Rock, so you can get some rather helpful damage on all of them, making them easier to take down. Sceptile also has a knack for forcing switches thanks to its ability to threaten almost anything slower than it. Unfortunately, Sceptile's biggest threat comes from its STAB Leaf Storm, and with seven types resistant to it, considerable offensive synergy in its partners is required to pull out Sceptile's best. On that note, Fire-types are a good idea in order to scare off Ferrothorn and Scizor, as well as other Bug-, Grass-, and Steel-types, while Rock-types are also a good idea to beat such threats as Volcarona and Zapdos. Thus, Heatran and Terrakion make good partners. In order to guarantee the removal of Steel-types, Magnezone support can be useful. And, of course, a way to beat common special walls such as Blissey, Chansey, and Porygon2 is always nice, as despite Sceptile's access to Focus Blast, a Conkeldurr in tow can really help to keep the fat nasties in check. On Sceptile's part, Sceptile itself can break bulky Ground- and Water-types and can lure out and weaken Steel-types with smart prediction, so is a good partner to sweepers who dislike having to deal with these Pokemon, such as Tyranitar and Salamence.</p>

[SET]
name: SubSeed
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Giga Drain
move 4: Hidden Power Fire
item: Leftovers
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 28 SpD / 228 Spe
ivs: 7 HP

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With the demise of Shaymin-S, Sceptile returns to the 5th generation still holding its crown as the fastest natural user of Substitute + Leech Seed in the game, despite the best attempts of Whimsicott, and to a lesser extent Cottonee, trying to ruin everything. Unlike the cotton balls, Sceptile actually has some kind of offensive prowess to go along with it, which allows it to muscle through most conventional responses to the strategy.</p>

<p>Substitute and Leech Seed make up the core combination on this set, where the idea behind the strategy is to first set up Leech Seed on an unsuspecting enemy, and then to create a never-ending chain of Substitutes to stall out the opponent, with healing provided by Leftovers and Leech Seed combined to negate the HP loss. For your STAB move, Giga Drain is generally the best choice as it boasts both reliable power and the potential to get back HP lost from Substitute. The coverage move is important to deal with those who are immune to Leech Seed. Hidden Power Fire can easily 2HKO the standard Ferrothorn and has while having a chance to OHKO Scizor and non-bulky Breloom as well after Stealth Rock.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Maximum Special Attack is a must in order to make the most of its biggest advantage over Whimsicott,: its significantly higher offensive prowess and ability to hit hard. After this, 228 Speed EVs gives just enough Speed to outrun Jolly Scarftar, as nothing else is really worth aiming for. A HP IV of 7 gives the maximum threshold for Leech Seed recovery, and the remaining EVs are dumped into Special Defense. In terms of other options, Hidden Power Ice is an alternative coverage move, but the Fire-type attack is really necessary to deal with your biggest threat,: Ferrothorn, so it is not recommended. Leaf Storm could be used over Giga Drain, but is generally a lesser option due to its poor side-effect, especially as Sceptile does not intend to be switching often.</p>

<p>As with the Life Orb set, Sceptile will be forcing switches pretty often, not only because of the threat it presents but also because of opponents attempting to negate Leech Seed. Hence, entry hazard support is immensely helpful with this set, as it has a real potential to accumulate a lot of damage. Deoxys-S, Ferrothorn, and Skarmory can set up both Stealth Rock and Spikes, while Forretress has access to all three entry hazards, so you can pick and choose what you want. As for what Sceptile can set up on, generally the easiest way of setting up early-game is to bluff an attacking set and set up Leech Seed while your opponent has their guard down. If this is too unreliable an option, Sceptile can generally set up fairly easily on bulky Water-types. Just watch out for Jellicent, who can Taunt you before you can get your strategy going. Ground-types such as Hippowdon (without Roar) are also notable. In order to lure them in, you could use a Fire-type such as Chandelure or Heatran. As for specific threats, Sceptile may have difficulties with Conkeldurr, who can use Drain Punch to break its Substitute and then Mach Punch away. Be sure to find some way to deal with it, such as by using a Gliscor or Tentacruel.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Sceptile has a pretty impressive physical movepool, most importantly containing Leaf Blade, Earthquake, Rock Slide, X-Scissor, Crunch, Dragon Claw, Bullet Seed, Acrobatics Brick Break, Drain Punch, Thunderpunch ThunderPunch, Low Kick, Pursuit, and Quick Attack, and it also has Swords Dance to set up with. However, its low base 85 Attack stat means that it can rarely do enough damage to be considered viable. Most special options have already been discussed on in the Life Orb set. Sceptile also gets Endeavor, so can abuse a strategy with Focus Sash and Quick Attack to take down at least one Pokemon. Sceptile has about a million gimmick sets it could potentially run, with various items or moves, but for the most part these are inferior to the sets given, and as they rely almost solely on surprise factor, listing them here would remove that effectiveness. Don't be afraid to experiment, though.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Special walls such as Blissey, Chansey, and specially defensive Porygon2 can easily take a Leaf Storm, and recover off the damage. All three can also use Thunder Wave to make Sceptile useless while Porygon2 can attack back with Ice Beam. Bronzong and Skarmory can take just about any attack should Sceptile lack Hidden Power Fire, and Skarmory can OHKO back with Brave Bird while Bronzong can do whatever the hell it likes. To a lesser extent, Ferrothorn and Scizor also fall under this label, though both of these do not enjoy Focus Blast.</p>

<p>Defensive Flying-types such as Dragonite and Zapdos can take on and defeat Sceptile as well, although if they don't invest in their defensive stats then Hidden Power Ice will sting. Dragonite's Multiscale ability does allow it to take Hidden Power with relative ease, though. As far as Poison-types go, Roserade can easily take a Leaf Storm but dislikes Hidden Power, while most other specially defensive Poison-types do relatively well as well. In the way of Grass-types, Celebi has impressive defensive stats and can wall Sceptile reasonably convincingly. Lastly, for Fire-types, Heatran and Volcarona have 4x resistances to Grass and, although Heatran is weak to Earthquake and Volcarona to Rock Slide, both can OHKO with their STAB Fire-type moves.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Sceptile gets the impressive ability Unburden from the Dream World, which would be a blessing for almost any other Pokemon, but is a bit wasted on Sceptile. Essentially, the way it works is that, when Sceptile loses an item, its Speed doubles, so if Sceptile were to consume a Petaya Berry, Focus Sash, or Grass Jewel, it would become faster than just about anything. Unfortunately, Sceptile's already immense Speed stat means that Unburden is more often than not a waste of time. Even when running a Pinch Berry set (which are illegal in OU since the Berries are unobtainable in the 5th generation), Overgrow is usually the better option thanks to the boost to Sceptile's STAB attacks.</p>


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[Overview]

<p>Ah, Sceptile;, the infamous lord of the forest. Fast, frail, and dangerous. While mMost Grass-types are often looked down upon competitively, either because of the sheer number of common weaknesses, or due to competition with Ferrothorn, Breloom, and others,. Sceptile, though, stands out from the crowd thanks not only to its impressive Speed stat, but also its very diverse movepool in both offense and support. Now that Shaymin-S has been declared Uber, Sceptile is once again the fastest user of Substitute + Leech Seed in OU, and unlike Whimsicott, who admittedly has the advantage in this area with its Prankster ability and larger support movepool, Sceptile actually has the stats to present a coherent offensive threat, making. This makes it more useful for situations where one cannot simply annoy the opponent to death.</p>

<p>However, in competitive terms, the competition from Whimsicott and other fast Grass-types is the least of Sceptile's worries. While Sceptile's base 120 Speed stat still allows it to outpace just about the entirety of the unboosted OU metagame, its base 105 Special Attack stat is suddenly underwhelming, and its base 85 Attack stat is more or less useless. Hence, it is a much less threatening presence than it was even in the 4th Geneneration, and thus is relegated to the sad and lonely realms of the niche and the gimmick once more. Still, if you want a fast, powerful special attacker cumand revenge killer, or an annoyer who can actually hit back, Sceptile is always there to be used.</p>

[SET]
name: Life Orb
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Focus Blast / Earthquake
move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Dragon Pulse / Earthquake
item: Life Orb
nature: Timid / Hasty
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is Sceptile's most powerful attacking set, which takes full advantage of both its special attacking prowess and large offensive movepool. Leaf Storm is Sceptile's most powerful STAB attack, and powerful it is indeed—for reference, it does 44% minimum to Choice Scarf Hydreigon. However, there are a grand total of seven types resistant to Grass, so you will need plenty of coverage options in your other moveslots. For your first coverage move, you will want a way to stop Steel-types. Focus Blast is the strongest option here, easily OHKOing Magnezone, Hydreigon, and Heatran with Stealth Rock, as well as getting the 2HKO on Ferrothorn. However, it is very unreliable due to its 70% accuracy. On the other hand, Earthquake is a reliable attack that deals good damage, especially to Heatran, and also helps against Fire- and Poison-types. However, it runs into difficulties, especially against those carrying Balloon as their item, and the lower power can be fatal at times. It also leaves you much more vulnerable against Ferrothorn, Scizor, and Skarmory.</p>

<p>In the third slot, if you are happyf you choose to use Focus Blast then, an option to get rid of the Flying-types, which that resist Grass-, Fighting-, and Ground-type attacks, is most recommended in the third moveslot. Sceptile's best option here is Hidden Power Ice, which is helpful particularly in order to take care of Tornadus and Thundurus, which is great sincehelpful as it lets Sceptile outrunsspeed and OHKOes both, making Thundurus and Tornadus. This makes it a useful revenge killer should the situation arise. It is also useful if you want to hit Garchomp and Salamence harder. However, particularly if you have chosen Earthquake, Hidden Power Fire is also worth consideration, if only for the necessity of being able to reliably beating Ferrothorn, Scizor, and Skarmory. The last slot is rathermore up to personal preference than anything else, as Sceptile has a multitude of potential targets. Dragon Pulse is more or less necessary if you are using Hidden Power Fire in order to defeat Dragon-types, and e. Even if you are using Hidden Power Ice, you can still use Dragon Pulse for Hydreigon, Latias, and Latios. However, in this situation you may want to look at some alternatives. Rather than running one or the other of Focus Blast and Earthquake, you can elect to run both and drop Dragon Pulse, solving quite a few coverage issues. Rock Slide is also an option, preventing Quiver Dance Volcarona from using Sceptile as set-up fodder, and also hitting other Bug-, Fire-, and Flying-types super effectively.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>SincBecause Sceptile is a frail hit-and-run attacker, the only two stats that will really matter are Speed and Special Attack, and thus both should be maximized. The remaining EVs can be shoved into HP or Attack, should you be running a physical attack as a coverage move. In the same way, a Hasty nature should be used over Timid if you are using a physical attack. If you wish, you could run a 29 HP IV in order to minimisze Life Orb recoil, but this means you slightly weaken the power of Hidden Power, and have. It also has less survivability due to the lower HP, though the difference in all casefor both drawbacks is usually negligible. In terms of other options, most of Sceptile's best options have already been covered, though you could have Giga Drain as your main STAB attack, which. This helps offset Life Orb recoil, but this gives you a massive, massive reduction in power.</p>

<p>As a Grass-type, Sceptile is weak to Ice-, Fire-, Bug-, Flying-, and Poison-type attacks, and t. The first four of these are all weak to Stealth Rock, so you can get some rather helpful damage on all of them, making them easier to take down. Sceptile also has a knack for forcing switches, thanks to its ability to threaten almost anything slower than it. Unfortunately, Sceptile's biggest threat comes from its STAB Leaf Storm, and with seven types resistant to it, considerable offensive synergy inwith its partners is required to pull out Sceptile's best. On that note, Fire-types are a good idea in order to scare off Ferrothorn and Scizor, as well as other Bug-, Grass-, and Steel-types, while Rock-types are also a good idea to beat such threats as Volcarona and Zapdos. Thus, Heatran and Terrakion make good partners. In order to guarantee the removal of Steel-types, Magnezone support can be useful as well. And, of course, a way to beat common special walls such as Blissey, Chansey, and Porygon2 is always nice, as, despite Sceptile's access to Focus Blast, a Conkeldurr in tow can really help to keep the fat nasties in check. On Sceptile's part, Sceptile itself can break bulky Ground- and Water-types and can lure out and weaken Steel-types with smart prediction, so is a good partner to sweepers who dislike having to deal with these Pokemon, such as Tyranitar and Salamence.</p>

[SET]
name: SubSeed
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Giga Drain
move 4: Hidden Power Fire
item: Leftovers
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 28 SpD / 228 Spe
ivs: 7 HP

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With the demiseremoval of Shaymin-S from OU, Sceptile returns to the 5th generation still holding its crown as the fastest natural user of Substitute + Leech Seed in the game, despite the best attempts of Whimsicott, and to a lesser extent Cottonee, trying to ruin everything. Unlike the cotton balls, Sceptile actually has some kind of offensive prowess to go along with it, which allows it to muscle through most conventional responses to theis strategy.</p>

<p>Substitute and Leech Seed make up the core combination on this set, where the idea behind the strategy is to first set up Leech Seed first on an unsuspecting enemy, and then to create a never-ending chain of Substitutes to stall out the opponent, with healing provided by Leftovers and Leech Seed combined to negate the HP loss. For your STAB move, Giga Drain is generally the best choice as it boasts both reliable power and the potential to get back HP lost from Substitute. The coverage move is important to deal with those who are immune to Leech Seed. Hidden Power Fire can easily 2HKO the standard Ferrothorn while having a chance to OHKO Scizor and non-bulky Breloom as well after Stealth Rock.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Maximum Special Attack is a must in order to make the most of its biggest advantage over Whimsicott: its significantly higher offensive prowess and ability to hit hard. After this, 228 Speed EVs gives just enough Speed to outrun Jolly Scarftar, as nothing else is really worth aiming for. An HP IV of 7 gives the maximum threshold for Leech Seed recovery, and the remaining EVs are dumped into Special Defense. In terms of other options, Hidden Power Ice is an alternative coverage move, but the Fire-type attack is really necessary to deal with your biggest threat: Ferrothorn, so it is not recommended. Leaf Storm could be used over Giga Drain, but is generally a lesser option due to its poor side-effect, especially as Sceptile does not intend to be switching often.</p>

<p>As with the Life Orb set, Sceptile will be forcing switches pretty often, not only because of the threat it presents, but also because of opponents attempting to negate Leech Seed. Hence, entry hazard support is immensely helpful with this set, as it has a real potential to accumulate a lot of damage. Deoxys-S, Ferrothorn, and Skarmory can set up both Stealth Rock and Spikes, while Forretress has access to all three entry hazards, so you can pick and choose what you want. As for what Sceptile can set up on, generally the easiest way of setting up early-game is to bluff an attacking set and set up Leech Seed while your opponent has their guard down. If this is too unreliable an option, Sceptile can generally set up fairly easily on bulky Water-types. Just watch out for Jellicent, who can Taunt you before you can get your strategy going. Ground-types such as Hippowdon (without Roar) are also notable. In order to lure them in, you could use a Fire-type such as Chandelure or Heatran. As for specific threats, Sceptile may have difficulties with Conkeldurr, who can use Drain Punch to break its Substitute and then Mach Punch away. Be sure to find some way to deal with it, such as by using Gliscor or Tentacruel.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Sceptile has a pretty impressive physical movepool, most importantly containing Leaf Blade, Earthquake, Rock Slide, X-Scissor, Crunch, Dragon Claw, Bullet Seed, Acrobatics, Brick Break, Drain Punch, ThunderPunch, Low Kick, Pursuit, and Quick Attack [COMMENT: are these the important options or all of them?], and it also has Swords Dance to set up with. However, its low base 85 Attack stat means that it can rarely do enough damage to be considered viable. Most special options have already been discussed in the Life Orb set. Sceptile also gets Endeavor, so it can abuse a strategy with Focus Sash and Quick Attack to take down at least one Pokemon. Sceptile has about a million gimmick sets it could potentially run, with various items or moves, but for the most part these are inferior to the sets given, and as they rely almost solely on surprise factor, listing them here would remove that effectiveness. Don't be afraid to experiment, though.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Special walls, such as Blissey, Chansey, and specially defensive Porygon2 can easily take a Leaf Storm, and recover off the damage. All three can also use Thunder Wave to make Sceptile useless, while Porygon2 can attack back with Ice Beam. Bronzong and Skarmory can take just about any attack should Sceptile lack Hidden Power Fire, and Skarmory can OHKO back with Brave Bird, while Bronzong can do whatever the hell it likes. To a lesser extent, Ferrothorn and Scizor also fall under this label, though both of these do not enjoy Focus Blast.</p>

<p>Defensive Flying-types such as Dragonite and Zapdos can take on and defeat Sceptile as well, although if they don't invest in their defensive stats then, Hidden Power Ice will sting. Dragonite's Multiscale ability does allow it to take Hidden Power with relative ease, though. As far as Poison-types go, Roserade can easily take a Leaf Storm but dislikes Hidden Power, while most other specially defensive Poison-types also do relatively well as well. In the way of. As far as Grass-types go, Celebi has impressive defensive stats and can wall Sceptile reasonably convincingly. Lastly, for Fire-types, Heatran and Volcarona have 4x resistances to Grass and, although Heatran is weak to Earthquake and Volcarona to Rock Slide, both can OHKO with their STAB Fire-type moves.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Sceptile gets the impressive ability Unburden from the Dream World, which would be a blessing for almost any other Pokemon, but is a bit wasted on Sceptile. Essentially, the way it works is that, when Sceptile loses an item, its Speed doubles, so if Sceptile were to consume a Petaya Berry, Focus Sash, or Grass Jewel, it would become faster than just about anything. Unfortunately, Sceptile's already immense Speed stat means that Unburden is more often than not a waste of time. Even when running a Pinch Berry set (which are illegal in OU since the Berries are unobtainable in the 5th generation), Overgrow is usually the better option thanks to the boost to Sceptile's STAB attacks.</p>


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[Overview]

<p>Ah, Sceptile, the infamous lord of the forest. Fast, frail, and dangerous. Most Grass-types are often looked down upon competitively, either because of the sheer number of common weaknesses, or due to competition with Ferrothorn, Breloom, and others. Sceptile, though, stands out from the crowd thanks not only to its impressive Speed stat, but also its very diverse movepool in both offense and support. Now that Shaymin-S has been declared Uber, Sceptile is once again the fastest user of Substitute + Leech Seed in OU, and unlike Whimsicott, who admittedly has the advantage in this area with its Prankster ability and larger support movepool, Sceptile actually has the stats to present a coherent offensive threat. This makes it more useful for situations where one cannot simply annoy the opponent to death.</p>

<p>However, in competitive terms the competition from Whimsicott and other fast Grass-types is the least of Sceptile's worries. While Sceptile's base 120 Speed stat still allows it to outpace just about the entirety of the unboosted OU metagame, its base 105 Special Attack stat is suddenly underwhelming, and its base 85 Attack stat is more or less useless. Hence, it is a much less threatening presence than it was even in DPP, and thus is relegated to the sad and lonely realms of the niche and the gimmick once more. Still, if you want a fast, powerful special attacker and revenge killer, or an annoyer who can actually hit back, Sceptile is always there to be used.</p>

[SET]
name: Life Orb
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Focus Blast / Earthquake
move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Dragon Pulse / Earthquake
item: Life Orb
nature: Timid / Hasty
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is Sceptile's most powerful attacking set, which takes full advantage of both its special attacking prowess and large offensive movepool. Leaf Storm is Sceptile's most powerful STAB attack, and powerful it is indeed—for reference, it does 44% minimum to Choice Scarf Hydreigon. However, there are a grand total of seven types resistant to Grass, so you will need plenty of coverage options in your other moveslots. For your first coverage move, you will want a way to stop Steel-types. Focus Blast is the strongest option here, easily OHKOing Magnezone, Hydreigon, and Heatran with Stealth Rock, as well as getting the 2HKO on Ferrothorn. However, it is very unreliable due to its 70% accuracy. On the other hand, Earthquake is a reliable attack that deals good damage, especially to Heatran, and also helps against Fire- and Poison-types. However, it runs into difficulties especially against those carrying Air Balloon as their item, and the lower power can be fatal at times. It also leaves you much more vulnerable against to Ferrothorn, Scizor, and Skarmory.</p>

<p>If you choose to use Focus Blast, an option to get rid of the Flying-types that resist Grass-, Fighting-, and Ground-type attacks is recommended in the third moveslot. Sceptile's best option here is Hidden Power Ice, which is particularly helpful as it lets Sceptile outspeed and OHKO both Thundurus and Tornadus with Stealth Rock. This makes it a useful revenge killer should the situation arise. It is also useful if you want to hit Garchomp and Salamence harder. However, particularly if you have chosen Earthquake, Hidden Power Fire is also worth consideration, if only for the necessity of reliably beating Ferrothorn, Scizor, and Skarmory. The last slot is more up to personal preference than anything else, as Sceptile has a multitude of potential targets. Dragon Pulse is more or less necessary if you are using Hidden Power Fire, in order to defeat Dragon-types. Even if you are using Hidden Power Ice, you can still use Dragon Pulse for Hydreigon, Latias, and Latios. However, in this situation you may want to look at some alternatives. Rather than running one or the other of Focus Blast and Earthquake, you can elect to run both and drop Dragon Pulse, solving quite a few coverage issues. Rock Slide is also an option, preventing Quiver Dance Volcarona from using Sceptile as set-up fodder, and also hitting other Bug-, Fire-, and Flying-types super effectively.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Because Sceptile is a frail hit-and-run attacker, the only two stats that will really matter are Speed and Special Attack, and thus both should be maximized. The remaining EVs can be shoved into HP or Attack, should you be running a physical attack as a coverage move. In the same way, a Hasty nature should be used over Timid if you are using a physical attack. If you wish, you could run a 29 HP IV in order to minimize Life Orb recoil, but this means you slightly weaken the power of Hidden Power, and also have less survivability due to the lower HP, though the difference in both cases is usually negligible. In terms of other options, most of Sceptile's best options have already been covered, though you could have Giga Drain as your main STAB attack. This helps offset Life Orb recoil, but this gives you a massive, massive reduction in power.</p>

<p>As a Grass-type, Sceptile is weak to Ice-, Fire-, Bug-, Flying-, and Poison-type attacks. The first four of these are all weak to Stealth Rock, so you can get some rather helpful damage on all of them, making them easier to take down. Sceptile also has a knack for forcing switches, thanks to its ability to threaten almost anything slower than it. Unfortunately, Sceptile's biggest threat comes from its STAB Leaf Storm, and with seven types resistant to it, considerable offensive synergy with its partners is required to pull out Sceptile's best. On that note, Fire-types are a good idea in order to scare off Ferrothorn and Scizor, as well as other Bug-, Grass-, and Steel-types, while Rock-types are also a good idea to beat such threats as Volcarona and Zapdos. Thus, Heatran and Terrakion make good partners. In order to guarantee the removal of Steel-types, Magnezone support can be useful as well. And, of course, a way to beat common special walls such as Blissey, Chansey, and Porygon2 is always nice, as, despite Sceptile's access to Focus Blast, a Conkeldurr in tow can really help to keep the fat nasties in check. Sceptile itself can break bulky Ground- and Water-types and can lure out and weaken Steel-types with smart prediction, so is making it a good partner to sweepers who dislike having to deal with these Pokemon, such as Tyranitar and Salamence.</p>

[SET]
name: SubSeed
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Giga Drain
move 4: Hidden Power Fire
item: Leftovers
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 28 SpD / 228 Spe
ivs: 7 HP

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With the removal of Shaymin-S from OU, Sceptile returns to the 5th generation still holding its crown as the fastest natural user of Substitute + Leech Seed in the game, despite the best attempts of Whimsicott, and to a lesser extent Cottonee, trying to ruin everything. Unlike the cotton balls, Sceptile actually has some kind of offensive prowess to go along with it, which allows it to muscle through most conventional responses to this strategy.</p>

<p>Substitute and Leech Seed make up the core combination on this set, where the idea behind the strategy is to first set up Leech Seed on an unsuspecting enemy, and then to create a never-ending chain of Substitutes to stall out the opponent, with healing provided by Leftovers and Leech Seed to negate the HP loss. For your STAB move, Giga Drain is generally the best choice as it boasts both reliable power and the potential to get back HP lost from Substitute. The coverage move is important to deal with those who are immune to Leech Seed. Hidden Power Fire can easily 2HKO the standard Ferrothorn while having a chance to OHKO Scizor and non-bulky Breloom as well after Stealth Rock.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Maximum Special Attack is a must in order to make the most of its biggest advantage over Whimsicott: its significantly higher offensive prowess power and ability to hit hard. After this, 228 Speed EVs gives just enough Speed to outrun Jolly Scarftar, as nothing else is really worth aiming for. An HP IV of 7 gives the maximum threshold for possibleLeech Seed recovery, and the remaining EVs are dumped into Special Defense. In terms of other options, Hidden Power Ice is an alternative coverage move, but the Fire-type attack is really necessary to deal with your biggest threat—Ferrothorn—so it is not recommended. Leaf Storm could be used over Giga Drain, but is generally a lesser option due to its poor undesirable side-effect, especially as Sceptile does not intend to be switching often.</p>

<p>As with the Life Orb set, Sceptile will be forcing switches pretty often, not only because of the threat it presents but also because of opponents attempting to negate Leech Seed. Hence, entry hazard support is immensely helpful with this set, as it has a real potential to accumulate a lot of damage. Deoxys-S, Ferrothorn, and Skarmory can set up both Stealth Rock and Spikes, while Forretress has access to all three entry hazards, so you can pick and choose what you want. As for what Sceptile can set up on, generally the easiest way of setting up early-game is to bluff an attacking set and set up Leech Seed while your opponent has their guard down. If this is too unreliable an option, Sceptile can generally set up fairly easily on bulky Water-types. Just watch out for Jellicent, who can Taunt you before you can get your strategy going. Ground-types such as Hippowdon (without Roar) are also notable. In order to lure them in, you could use a Fire-type such as Chandelure or Heatran. As for specific threats, Sceptile may have difficulties with Conkeldurr, who can use Drain Punch to break its Substitute and then Mach Punch away. Be sure to find some way to deal with it, such as by using Gliscor or Tentacruel.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Sceptile has a pretty impressive physical movepool, most importantly containing Leaf Blade, Earthquake, Rock Slide, X-Scissor, Crunch, Dragon Claw, Bullet Seed, Acrobatics, (comma) Brick Break, Drain Punch, ThunderPunch, Low Kick, Pursuit, and Quick Attack, and it also has Swords Dance to set up. However, its low base 85 Attack stat means that it can rarely do enough damage to be considered viable. Most special options have already been discussed in the Life Orb set. Sceptile also gets Endeavor, so it can abuse a strategy with Focus Sash and Quick Attack to take down at least one Pokemon. Sceptile has about a million gimmick sets it could potentially run, with various items or moves, but for the most part these are inferior to the sets given, and as they rely almost solely on surprise factor, listing them here would remove that their effectiveness. Don't be afraid to experiment, though.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Special walls, such as Blissey, Chansey, and specially defensive Porygon2 can easily take a Leaf Storm and recover off the damage. All three can also use Thunder Wave to make Sceptile useless while Porygon2 can attack back with Ice Beam. Bronzong and Skarmory can take just about any attack should Sceptile lack Hidden Power Fire, and Skarmory can OHKO back with Brave Bird, while Bronzong can do whatever the hell it likes. To a lesser extent, Ferrothorn and Scizor also fall under this label, though both of these do not neither enjoy taking a Focus Blast.</p>

<p>Defensive Flying-types such as Dragonite and Zapdos can take on and defeat Sceptile as well, although if they don't invest in their defensive stats, Hidden Power Ice will sting. Dragonite's Multiscale ability does allow it to take Hidden Power Ice with relative ease, though. As far as Poison-types go, Roserade can easily take a Leaf Storm but dislikes either Hidden Power, while most other specially defensive Poison-types also do relatively well. As far as Grass-types go, Celebi has impressive defensive stats and can wall Sceptile reasonably convincingly well. Lastly, for Fire-types, both Heatran and Volcarona have 4x resistances to Grass and, although Heatran is weak to Earthquake and Volcarona to Rock Slide, both can OHKO with their STAB Fire-type moves.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Sceptile gets the impressive ability Unburden from the Dream World, which would be a blessing for almost any other Pokemon, but is a bit wasted on Sceptile. Essentially, the way it works is that, when Sceptile loses an item, its Speed doubles, so if Sceptile were to consume a Petaya Berry, Focus Sash, or Grass Jewel, it would become faster than just about anything. Unfortunately, Sceptile's already immense Speed stat means that Unburden is more often than not a waste of time. Even when running a pinch Berry set (which are illegal in OU since the Berries are unobtainable in the 5th generation), Overgrow is usually the better option thanks to the boost to Sceptile's STAB attacks.</p>


I could find very little wrong. GP 2/2.
 
I would think that a Resto-Chesto set would work great with Unburden.

Chesto Berry
252 Atk, 108 Spe, 148 HP

Rest
Swords Dance
Leaf Blade
Rock Slide

This set is made to be a physical sweeper. Rock Slide deals massive damage to Sceptile's weaknesses, while Leaf Blade is Sceptile's STAB of choice. After a Swords Dance or two and a the use of the Chesto Berry, Sceptile suddenly becomes a physical sweeper rivaling Speed Boost Blaziken.
 
Here is another unburden set
Adamant liechi berry
Acrobat
Earthquake
Leafblade
Subsitute

with adamant and leichi boost its attack isn't that bad and this set for the most part hits most things in OU at least for neutral damage (excluding zong and skarm)
 

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I personally think we should really stop with the Unburden sets, since most of them are generally lacking in power and general coverage against popular threats without one of the main offensive options. In any case, the reasons for Unburden's usage has been delineated.
 
I personally think we should really stop with the Unburden sets, since most of them are generally lacking in power and general coverage against popular threats without one of the main offensive options. In any case, the reasons for Unburden's usage has been delineated.
I actually did find a good Unburden moveset that still has a lot of sweeping potential. Credit for it goes to aragornbird on the GameFaq site (and I think he's also on Smogon, too):

Sceptile @Absorb Bulb
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid/Modest Nature
Ability: Unburden
-Giga Drain
-Dragon Pulse
-Hidden Power [Fire/Rock]
-Focus Blast

Switch in on a Water-type attack, possibly Scald, which causes the Absorb Bulb to be used. You lose some HP, but gain +1 SpA and +2 Spd, and have Giga Drain for recovery. The boost brings its sweeping potential through the roof, and has worked pretty well for me when I actually used this set.
 
I run a Sceptile set with success:

Sceptile @ Focus Sash
Ability: Unburden
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Leaf Blade
- Acrobatics
- Earthquake

You might wanna take a look at this. It is quite similar to the Unburden Focus Sash hitmonlee set, which uses counter. But this set allows you to set up while your opponent brings your speed to insane levels. It requires a Spinner since this set is wrecked by any SR incoming. This set is completely wrecked by any status condition, so it must be played well. If you get it working it rocks, but it might be hard to get it that way.

This is a set that actually works, and not just slaps on a Grass Gem, because Sceptile is frail.
However, with the current amount of weather teams running around in OU, this set might be only usable in UU.
I use this as my lead, because it is easily KO'd by any kind of weather.
 
Technitop says hi in UU....
The Focus Sash sets are mostly gimmicks, same with the SubPetaya set, they just dont cut it since now priority is more common than ever.
 
Instead of posting all these untested Unburden sets you people are finding, why not put a Unburden Scepticile on your team? Battle with him on PO and save the battle log, then show it to the people in charge of this analysis.

If you guys believe a Unburden set will make him a good sweeper, show us. Don't just say you had a idea for a set without testing it. If they get some logs showing how deadly he can be with Unburden I'm sure they'll consider adding it to the analysis.
 
Physical Sceptile
Sceptile @ Focus Sash
Ability: Unburden/ Overgrow
EVs: 252 Spe / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) or Jolly Nature (+Spe, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Leaf Blade
- Acrobatics
- Earthquake/ Rock Slide

Special Sceptile
Sceptile @ Focus Sash
Ability: Overgrow/ Unburden
EVs: 252 Spe / 252 SpA / 4 Def
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) or Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
- Giga Drain/ Energy Ball
- Dragon Pulse (Overgrow)/ HP Fire (Either Ability)
- Focus Blast/ HP Fire
- Substitue, Solarbeam maybe?
 

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Okay, in all seriousness, I'm just going to sum things up about Unburden in OU.

  • Without a consistent boosting item, Sceptile is severely lacking in power. Even after a Swords Dance boost, Sceptile can't take out the many tanks and walls lurking in OU (hell it even has trouble with Blissey). Sceptile's physical power is overall low.
  • Sceptile has coverage problems, which can be a problem when trying to KO threats such as Latios and Ferrothorn. With Unburden, Sceptile's coverage is worsened without Dragon Pulse. Even then, Sceptile's most used moves suffer from low Base Power.
  • The item required to activate Unburden has to be summoned upon circumstance. The many Focus Sash/Unburden sets going around here are unviable in OU because of the possibility that Focus Sash may never be activated due to residual and chip damage (very common in OU).
  • There really is no point to using Unburden Sceptile in a tier chock full of so many bulky sweepers and checks. Its presumptive ability to "counter" weather teams is false.
  • FunLovin said:
    If you guys believe a Unburden set will make him a good sweeper, show us. Don't just say you had a idea for a set without testing it. If they get some logs showing how deadly he can be with Unburden I'm sure they'll consider adding it to the analysis.
 
Not to mention, Unburden on something that is naturally at 372 Speed isn't very appealing to begin with.

AG pretty much laid it down without even specifically mentioning the final nail in the coffin to me, the amount of Priority moves. Each one (even Aqua Jet) is strong against it.
 
<p>If you choose to use Focus Blast, an option to get rid of the Flying-types that resist Grass-, Fighting-, and Ground-type attacks is recommended in the third moveslot. Sceptile's best option here is Hidden Power Ice, which is particularly helpful as it lets Sceptile outspeed and OHKO both Thundurus and Tornadus with Stealth Rock. This makes it a useful revenge killer should the situation arise. It is also useful if you want to hit Dragonite and Salamence harder. However, particularly if you have chosen Earthquake, Hidden Power Fire is also worth consideration, if only for the necessity of reliably beating Ferrothorn, Scizor, and Skarmory. The last slot is more up to personal preference than anything else, as Sceptile has a multitude of potential targets. Dragon Pulse is more or less necessary if you are using Hidden Power Fire, in order to defeat Dragon-types. Even if you are using Hidden Power Ice, you can still use Dragon Pulse for Hydreigon, Latias, and Latios. However, in this situation you may want to look at some alternatives. Rather than running one or the other of Focus Blast and Earthquake, you can elect to run both and drop Dragon Pulse, solving quite a few coverage issues. Rock Slide is also an option, preventing Quiver Dance Volcarona from using Sceptile as set-up fodder, and also hitting other Bug-, Fire-, and Flying-types super effectively.</p>
Insert 'of' in the second paragraph of the first set.
 
Sceptile should have a physical set of
Sceptile@ lefties/life orb/focus sash
Overgrow/unberdon
252at 252spe and 4hp
Sword dance/Hone claw
Leaf blade
Night slash
Equake/dragon claw/slam.

If using hone claw go with slam but yeah pretty simple and effective set
 

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Okay, in all seriousness, I'm just going to sum things up about Unburden in OU.

  • Without a consistent boosting item, Sceptile is severely lacking in power. Even after a Swords Dance boost, Sceptile can't take out the many tanks and walls lurking in OU (hell it even has trouble with Blissey). Sceptile's physical power is overall low.
  • Sceptile has coverage problems, which can be a problem when trying to KO threats such as Latios and Ferrothorn. With Unburden, Sceptile's coverage is worsened without Dragon Pulse. Even then, Sceptile's most used moves suffer from low Base Power.
  • The item required to activate Unburden has to be summoned upon circumstance. The many Focus Sash/Unburden sets going around here are unviable in OU because of the possibility that Focus Sash may never be activated due to residual and chip damage (very common in OU).
  • There really is no point to using Unburden Sceptile in a tier chock full of so many bulky sweepers and checks. Its presumptive ability to "counter" weather teams is false.
  • If you guys believe a Unburden set will make him a good sweeper, show us. Don't just say you had a idea for a set without testing it. If they get some logs showing how deadly he can be with Unburden I'm sure they'll consider adding it to the analysis.
 

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