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Sceptile (Choice Scarf) (QC 0/3)

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by kloms, Jun 18, 2013.

  1. kloms

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    [SET]
    name: Choice Scarf
    move 1: Leaf Storm
    move 2: Hidden Power Ice
    move 3: Focus Blast
    move 4: Rock Slide / Earthquake
    item: Choice Scarf
    nature: Naive
    ability: Overgrow
    EVs: 84 Atk / 252 SpA / 172 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]
    • Faster than +2 max speed Cloyster and all relevant +1s
    • Leaf Storm gives power, Hp Ice and Focus Blast are for coverage, Rock Slide is for Volcarona
    • Can out speed and OHKO Keldeo, Terrakion, DD Dragonite with broken Multiscale, Defensive Politoed, Cloyster, and offensive Valcorana (75% for offensive Volcarona)
    • Needs neutral Leaf Storm or 4x Coverage move to deal enough damage.

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
    • Earthquake deals more damage to Ninetails and Heatran.
    • Evs give max attacking stats while still out speeding +2 Jolly Cloyster
    • Naive makes Mamoswine's Ice Shard rarely OHKO, Leaf Storm OHKOs back
    • Maybe ThunderPunch for Gyarados?
  2. AccidentalGreed

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    Rather than explain the set and what it does, I think you should explain "why this set should be on-site" (http://www.smogon.com/forums/announcement.php?f=156&a=227). IMO Sceptile is a little too weak and dependent on coverage to effectively use Scarf, and the only reason I could picture using it is to hit timid 180 Venusaur in the sun, but even then HP Ice only does a little to it.

    I won't immediately reject this, but please make a good case in bold.
  3. dice

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    it's too weak and dependent on coverage moves. leaf storm is easily set up on, and almost all of its moves do not have 100% accuracy making it a liability if they miss. you can outspeed keldeo + terrakion etc, yes; however, they can just go into their ferrothorn / jirachi / scizor and you're walled. i can't see this happening, sorry.

    qc rejected 1/3
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    QC Rejected (2/3)
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    Surprisingly, that has not happened in any of my tests. That is not an excuse however, and you make a very valid point I have oversaw even with testing, so I agree this should be locked and moved.
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