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Seaking (QC 0/3)

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by -Tsunami-, Dec 8, 2011.

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  1. -Tsunami-

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    [Overview]
    • Stats are lacking
    • Access to 2 great abilities in Lightningrod and Swift Swim
    • Decent base Attack
    • Access to Rain Dance and Agility
    • Water typing

    [SET]
    name: Rain Dance
    move 1: Rain Dance
    move 2: Waterfall / Aqua Tail
    move 3: Megahorn
    move 4: Return
    item: Life Orb / Damp Rock
    ability: Swift Swim
    nature: Jolly nature
    evs: 72 HP / 252 Atk / 184 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]
    • Rain Dance lets Seaking double its Speed for 5 turns and power up its STAB
    • Waterfall is a reliable stab move with a 20% flinch chance that is boosted by rain
    • Aqua Tail is 10% stronger, but is also 10% less accurate
    • Megahorn provides Seaking with good coverage to hit Grass-types
    • Return provides almost unresisted type coverage when combined with Waterfall or Aqua Tail
    • Damp Rock sacrifices the extra power than Life Orb grants Seaking for 8 turns of rain in comparison to 5
    • 184 Speed EVs lets Seaking outrun Jolly Choice Scarf Primape after a Rain Dance

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
    • Seaking can run Substitute over Rain Dance if your team already has rain support
    • Works well on rain teams
    • Appreciates the help of other Swift Swimmers such as Kabutops and Omastar
    • Appreciates hazard support

    [SET]
    name: Agility
    move 1: Agility
    move 2: Hydro Pump
    move 3: Ice Beam
    move 4: Megahorn
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Lightningrod
    nature: Hasty
    evs: 72 Atk / 252 SpA / 184 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]
    • Agility lets Seaking boost its lackluster Speed
    • 184 Speed EVs lets it outrun Jolly Primeape after an Agility
    • This set takes advantage of a great asset to Seaking in Lightningrod
    • Switch Seaking on a Pokemon such as Galvantula using Volt Switch to grab a Special Attack boost
    • Hydro Pump provides great power
    • Ice Beam provides coverage
    • Megahorn rounds off the set by hitting off of Seaking’s decent base Attack stat and rounding off coverage

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
    • Can easily set up on Pokemon that rely on paralysis such as Uxie
    • “Surprise” ability of sorts
    • Surf could be used over Hydro Pump for reliability, but Seaking really needs the power
    • Hidden Power Fire can be used over Megahorn with a Timid nature to hit Ferroseed
    • Appreciates hazard support greatly

    [Other Options]
    • Hidden Power Fire
    • Surf
    • Substitute
    • Water Veil prevents Seaking from being burned, but it is outclassed by Seaking’s other abilities
    • Hidden Power Grass
    • Hidden Power Electric
    • Signal Beam

    [Checks and Counters]
    • Ferroseed causes trouble for all variants of Seaking
    • Not all that bulky, so priority can handle it
    • Poliwrath
    • Munchlax eats the Agility set alive
    • Scarf variants of Galvantula and Manectric outspeed it, and can hit it with a Bug Buzz or Hidden Power Grass, respectively
  2. Forte.EXE

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    Nice Whishcash.
  3. athleteandy1

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    What does Ice beam hit? You have it in the ac of the first set, but what does it hit?
  4. -Tsunami-

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    I took it out just now. It didn't strike me for a minute that Seaking's uninvested Special Attack was 166.
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    I'm sorry, but Seaking is just...well, bad. Terrible stats, outclassed by other Swift Swimmers (Megahorn does not make up for the terrible Attack stat) and Lightningrod is a cool gimmick but it just isn't any good.

    QC REJECTED 1/3
  6. Nails

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    you only have to reject it once windsong

    but here's twice for good measure

    seaking is bad
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