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Seaking (QC 0/3)

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by -Tsunami-, Dec 8, 2011.

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  1. -Tsunami-

    is a Contributor to Smogonis a Team Rater Alumnusis a Smogon Social Media Contributor Alumnusis a Tiering Contributor Alumnusis a Past SPL and WCoP Champion

    Feb 27, 2009

    • Stats are lacking
    • Access to 2 great abilities in Lightningrod and Swift Swim
    • Decent base Attack
    • Access to Rain Dance and Agility
    • Water typing

    name: Rain Dance
    move 1: Rain Dance
    move 2: Waterfall / Aqua Tail
    move 3: Megahorn
    move 4: Return
    item: Life Orb / Damp Rock
    ability: Swift Swim
    nature: Jolly nature
    evs: 72 HP / 252 Atk / 184 Spe

    • Rain Dance lets Seaking double its Speed for 5 turns and power up its STAB
    • Waterfall is a reliable stab move with a 20% flinch chance that is boosted by rain
    • Aqua Tail is 10% stronger, but is also 10% less accurate
    • Megahorn provides Seaking with good coverage to hit Grass-types
    • Return provides almost unresisted type coverage when combined with Waterfall or Aqua Tail
    • Damp Rock sacrifices the extra power than Life Orb grants Seaking for 8 turns of rain in comparison to 5
    • 184 Speed EVs lets Seaking outrun Jolly Choice Scarf Primape after a Rain Dance

    • Seaking can run Substitute over Rain Dance if your team already has rain support
    • Works well on rain teams
    • Appreciates the help of other Swift Swimmers such as Kabutops and Omastar
    • Appreciates hazard support

    name: Agility
    move 1: Agility
    move 2: Hydro Pump
    move 3: Ice Beam
    move 4: Megahorn
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Lightningrod
    nature: Hasty
    evs: 72 Atk / 252 SpA / 184 Spe

    • Agility lets Seaking boost its lackluster Speed
    • 184 Speed EVs lets it outrun Jolly Primeape after an Agility
    • This set takes advantage of a great asset to Seaking in Lightningrod
    • Switch Seaking on a Pokemon such as Galvantula using Volt Switch to grab a Special Attack boost
    • Hydro Pump provides great power
    • Ice Beam provides coverage
    • Megahorn rounds off the set by hitting off of Seaking’s decent base Attack stat and rounding off coverage

    • Can easily set up on Pokemon that rely on paralysis such as Uxie
    • “Surprise” ability of sorts
    • Surf could be used over Hydro Pump for reliability, but Seaking really needs the power
    • Hidden Power Fire can be used over Megahorn with a Timid nature to hit Ferroseed
    • Appreciates hazard support greatly

    [Other Options]
    • Hidden Power Fire
    • Surf
    • Substitute
    • Water Veil prevents Seaking from being burned, but it is outclassed by Seaking’s other abilities
    • Hidden Power Grass
    • Hidden Power Electric
    • Signal Beam

    [Checks and Counters]
    • Ferroseed causes trouble for all variants of Seaking
    • Not all that bulky, so priority can handle it
    • Poliwrath
    • Munchlax eats the Agility set alive
    • Scarf variants of Galvantula and Manectric outspeed it, and can hit it with a Bug Buzz or Hidden Power Grass, respectively
  2. Forte.EXE


    May 22, 2010
    Nice Whishcash.
  3. athleteandy1


    Sep 19, 2010
    What does Ice beam hit? You have it in the ac of the first set, but what does it hit?
  4. -Tsunami-

    is a Contributor to Smogonis a Team Rater Alumnusis a Smogon Social Media Contributor Alumnusis a Tiering Contributor Alumnusis a Past SPL and WCoP Champion

    Feb 27, 2009
    I took it out just now. It didn't strike me for a minute that Seaking's uninvested Special Attack was 166.
  5. Windsong

    Windsong .dancin forever
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    Apr 29, 2009
    I'm sorry, but Seaking is just...well, bad. Terrible stats, outclassed by other Swift Swimmers (Megahorn does not make up for the terrible Attack stat) and Lightningrod is a cool gimmick but it just isn't any good.

  6. Nails

    Nails The Wolf says Awoo.
    is a Forum Moderator Alumnusis a Tiering Contributor Alumnusis a Battle Server Moderator Alumnusis a defending World Cup of Pokemon champion

    May 14, 2010
    you only have to reject it once windsong

    but here's twice for good measure

    seaking is bad
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