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Sentret (Analysis)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by ShinyAzelf, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. ShinyAzelf

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    Hi C&C. This is my final LC analysis that I have reserved. Hope you guys like it!

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    [OVERVIEW]
    <p>Sentret is not seen often because of very poor stats across the board. However, Sentret does have a very large movepool, which somewhat makes up for its terrible stats. Sentret works best as a Trick Room sweeper; unfortunately, Sentret is outclassed by Whismur and Munchlax as a Trick Room sweeper due to their higher offensive stats. What sets Sentret apart is a powerful priority attack in Sucker Punch, allowing it to pick off weakened Pokemon even when Trick Room isn't in effect.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Mixed Trick Room
    move 1: Return / Brick Break
    move 2: Sucker Punch / U-turn
    move 3: Ice Beam
    move 4: Thunderbolt
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Keen Eye
    nature: Quiet / Brave
    evs: 228 Atk / 4 Def / 236 SpA
    ivs: 0 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]
    <p>Sentret has a terrible Speed stat, but under Trick Room, it can be one of the fastest Pokemon in Little Cup. Return is a very strong STAB move and is the move Sentret will be using most often. Brick Break can also be used to hurt Steel-type Pokemon, and offers more coverage. Sucker Punch is a very powerful move, and priority is always useful in a fast-paced metagame like Little Cup. It also acts as insurance when Trick Room isn't in effect. U-turn can also be used in place of Sucker Punch to scout for counters, and allows Sentret to escape from danger. A combination of Ice Beam and Thunderbolt provides very good coverage, forming the BoltBeam combination which hits all Pokemon in Little Cup at least neutrally, except for Magnemite.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
    <p>A Speed-reducing nature and 0 Speed IVs bring Sentret to a low 7 Speed stat, allowing it to outrun almost every single Pokemon in Trick Room. Bronzor completely walls this set, so a teammate who can effectively deal with Bronzor is helpful; Houndour and Magnemite do the job well. The former can set up a Substitute before hitting Bronzor hard with Fire Blast, while the latter can trap Bronzor with Magnet Pull and deal a lot of damage with Thunderbolt. While it has a large movepool, Sentret's offensive stats are still fairly poor, meaning unless it is hitting something frail for super effective damage, it will not deal a lot of damage. Gligar is helpful as it deals with Croagunk, who would otherwise defeat Sentret with a combination of Fake Out and Vacuum Wave. If needed, Gligar can even use U-turn to scout the opponent’s team. However, most (if not all) teammates should be carrying a Speed-reducing nature along with 0 Speed IVs because Trick Room may be in effect. Bronzor is a good candidate for setting up Trick Room since it is also able to lay down Stealth Rock, making Sentret's job of damaging the opponent's Pokemon easier. Snubbull may seem to outclass this set, having Intimidate, a higher Attack stat, and pefect coverage, but what sets Sentret apart is a powerful priority move in Sucker Punch and the ability to scout the opponent's team with U-turn.</p>

    [Team Options]
    <p>Bronzor pairs up well with Sentret, being able to set up both Stealth Rock and Trick Room. Since Sentret only functions well in Trick Room, slow Pokemon make good teammates. Slowpoke is also a great teammate to Sentret, able to take Fighting attacks for it, while Sentret is immune to Ghost. Slowpoke can also set up Trick Room, and unlike Bronzor, has access to Slack Off, allowing it to set up Trick Room throughout the match. Duskull is also a good teammate, able to take on physical attackers with Will-O-Wisp and set up Trick Room, while being immune to Sentret's only weakness. Snubbull is a good wallbreaking partner who can take on Munchlax and Porygon with Close Combat and Gastly with Crunch.</p>

    [Optional Changes]
    <p>Sentret has Flamethrower and Fire Punch, which allow it to hit Bronzor harder than with any of its other moves. Super Fang can be used to hurt opposing Pokemon, bringing them down to half of their HP. However, many Pokemon carry Oran Berry, so they'll recover most, if not all, of that HP immediately. Quick Attack can be used as a weaker priority move that is guaranteed to hit. Lastly, U-turn can be used to scout the opponent's switch-in, but is not recommended due to Sentret’s poor Speed. Aqua Tail is a good option to hurt bulky Pokemon such as Onix, while providing good coverage. Sentret can also use Trick with an Iron Ball to outspeed counters and render them useless. Assist is also an option, making Sentret's moves harder to predict.</p>

    [Counters]
    <p>When not under Trick Room, almost every Pokemon can outspeed Sentret. Machop can use DynamicPunch, Mankey can use Close Combat or U-turn, and Croagunk can use Fake Out and Vacuum Wave to ensure Sentret's demise. When under Trick Room, Bronzor is no doubt the best counter, walling Sentret completely unless it carries a Fire attack and sometimes even underspeeding it. Under Trick Room, Munchlax can switch in on Thunderbolt or Ice Beam and proceed to outspeed and OHKO Sentret with Return. Magnemite and Aron are also decent counters, not getting hurt by any attack except for Brick Break (which is not common on Sentret).</p>
  2. Siegrin

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    How is your Trick room set a Trick Room set at all, you don't mention teammates that will help you trick room, nor do you carry trick room yourself...
  3. comatthew6

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    does sentret hit 14 speed with maximum investment? If so, try a choice scarf set. Also, I don't see the difference between the first two sets (should probably just be TR sweeper).
  4. Darkamber8828

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    Sentret has U-turn and Trick. That should be enough for a mention on OC.

    Yes, it's really terrible.
  5. Darkamber8828

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    The latter Imo. Terrible speed is terrible, and not many pokemon mind a scarf that cannot kill you.
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    Keep life orb as it grants roughly the same boost in lc.
  7. Towelie

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    Talk about how trick room snubbull basically 100 % outclasses this. it has higher attack, intimidate, and great coverage with ice punch, close combat, return, fire punch or crunch.

    edit: all it really has is sucker punch but is that really needed on a dedicated trick room sweeper?
  8. sensible

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    Priority is great on Trick Room teams. Because your Pokemon are so slow, you need insurance for when TR is down. Possibly slash U-turn with Sucker Punch. U-turn is great to use on the last turn of TR so you don't lose offensive momentum. It also prevents Sentret from being completely outclassed by Snubble.
  9. Towelie

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    sentret has 40 atk as opposed to snubbulls 80 atk... 40 atk unstabbed sucker punch isn't getting you anywhere to be honest. especially with a + spa nature.
  10. sensible

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    A lot of your teammates sections only consist of fast pokemon and Pokemon that don't set up trick room, which is pretty counter productive. You wan't to include only slower pokemon or pokemon that can set up trick room, because noone would ever use Sentret outside of a trick room team (I'm not even sure if I would use it in any team for that matter)
  11. Dracoyoshi8

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    Too much hype in the overview. Sentret is not a threat every team should look out for, since Whismur and Munchlax outclass it as a Trick Room sweeper overall.Those two Pokemon should be mentioned in the overview as comparisons. You should explain why to use or not to use Sentret over Whismur and Munchlax. Emphasize on the fact Sentret has access to priority, something the other two can't boast.

    Mention Munchlax in the counters. During Trick Room, Munchlax can switch in on Ice Beam or ThunderPunch and KO with Return. Magnemite and Aron are decent counter if Sentret isn't running Brick Break. Also, Aqua Tail, Trick + Iron Ball and Assist should be mentioned in Optional Changes. Sentret is more suited to doubles than singles, it seems.

    edit: Actually, replace Ice Beam and Thunderbolt with ThunderPunch and Ice Punch. They'll probably do more damage under most circumstances, and then you can invest more in HP. It also makes it harder for Munchlax to switch in if its at low health.
  12. Darkamber8828

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    What about Duskull? Sets up Trick Room, immune to Sentret's weakness, and cripples pokemon of said weakness with WoW.

    Maybe mention Snubbull, for taking down normal checks a la MunchlaxGastlyPorygon?
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    Needs more emphasis on how debilitating those offensive stats are, even with a good movepool you're not going to be doing much unless you're hitting SE on something fairly frail. But, best it can do, so:
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    Fairly decent even though there are much better options.

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    [OVERVIEW]
    <p>Sentret is not seen often because of very poor stats all across the board. However, Sentret does have a very large movepool, which makes up for its terrible stats. Sentret is outclassed by Whismur and Munchlax as a Trick Room sweeper, because they have higher offensive stats. What sets Sentret apart is a powerful priority attack in Sucker Punch, meaning it can pick off weakened Pokemon, and outspeed Pokemon even when Trick Room isn't in effect.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Mixed Trick Room
    move 1: Return / Brick Break
    move 2: Sucker Punch / U-turn
    move 3: Ice Beam
    move 4: Thunderbolt
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Keen Eye
    nature: Quiet / Brave
    evs: 228 Atk / 4 Def / 236 SpA
    ivs: 0 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]
    <p>Sentret has a terrible Speed stat, but under Trick Room, it can be one of the fastest Pokemon. Return is a very strong STAB move and is the move Sentret will be using most often. Brick Break can also be used to hurt Steel-type Pokemon more, and offers more coverage. Sucker Punch is a very powerful move, and priority is always useful in such a fast-paced metagame. It also acts as insurance when Trick Room isn't in effect. U-turn can also be used in that slot, to scout for counters, and allows Sentret to escape from danger. Ice Beam and Thunderbolt provides very good coverage, forming the BoltBeam combination which hits all Pokemon in Little Cup at least neutrally except for Magnemite.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
    <p>A Speed-reducing nature and 0 Speed IVs bring Sentret to a low 7 Speed stat, allowing it to outrun almost every single Pokemon in Trick Room. Bronzor completely walls this set, so a Pokemon who can effectively deal with Bronzor is helpful. Houndour and Magnemite do the job well. The former can set up a Substitute before hitting Bronzor hard with Fire Blast, while the latter can trap Bronzor with Magnet Pull and deal a lot of damage with Thunderbolt. While it has a large movepool, Sentret's offensive stats are still fairly poor, meaning unless you are hitting something frail for super effective damage, you will not deal a lot of damage. Gligar is also helpful as it deals with Croagunk, who would otherwise defeat Sentret with a combination of Fake Out and Vacuum Wave. If needed, Gligar can even use U-turn to scout the opponent’s team. However, most if not all teammates should be carrying a -Speed nature along with 0 Speed IVs because Trick Room may be in effect. Bronzor is a good candidate for setting up Trick Room on your team, since it is also able to lay down Stealth Rock, making easier Sentret's job of damaging the opponent's Pokemon. Snubbull may seem to outclass this set, having Intimidate and a higher Attack stat, as well as perfect coverage, but what sets Sentret apart is a powerful priority move in Sucker Punch, and the ability to scout the opponent's team with U-turn.</p>

    [Team Options]
    <p>Bronzor pairs up well with Sentret, being able to set up both Stealth Rock and Trick Room, which will greatly benefit Sentret. Since Sentret will only be functioning well in Trick Room, slow Pokemon make good teammates. Slowpoke is also a great teammate to Sentret, being able to take Fighting attacks for it, while Sentret is immune to Ghost. Slowpoke can also set up Trick Room, and unlike Bronzor, has access to Slack Off, allowing it to set up Trick Room throughout the match. Duskull is also a good teammate, being able to take on physical attackers with Will-O-Wisp and set up Trick Room, while being immune to Sentret's only weakness. Snubbull is a good wallbreaking partner, being able to take on Munchlax and Porygon with Close Combat and Gastly with Crunch.</p>

    [Optional Changes]
    <p>Sentret has Flamethrower and Fire Punch which allows it to hit Bronzor harder than any of its other moves. Super Fang can be used to hurt Pokemon, bringing them down to half of their HP. However, lots of Pokemon carry Oran Berry though. Quick Attack can be used as a weaker priority move that is guaranteed to hit. Lastly, U-turn can be used to scout the opponent's switch-in, but is not recommended due to Sentret’s poor speed. Aqua Tail is a good option to hurt bulky Pokemon such as Onix, while providing good coverage. Sentret can also use Trick with an Iron Ball to outspeed counters, and render them useless. Assist is also an option, making Sentret's moves harder to predict.</p>

    [Counters]
    <p>When not under Trick Room, almost every Pokemon can outspeed it. Machop can Dynamicpunch, Mankey can Close Combat or U-turn, and Croagunk can Fake Out and Vacuum Wave to ensure Sentret cannot live. When under Trick Room, Bronzor is no doubt the best counter, walling Sentret completely unless it carries a Fire attack, and sometimes outspeeding it. Under Trick Room, Munchlax can switch in on Thunderbolt or Ice Beam, outspeed, and OHKO Sentret with Return. Magnemite and Aron are also decent counters, not getting hurt by any attack except for Brick Break which is not common on Sentret.</p>


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