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Serperior (Analysis)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by Nickscor, Feb 2, 2012.

  1. Nickscor

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    Serperior

    [Overview]

    <p>While its name may imply superiority over other Pokemon, Serperior is often seen as inferior to other Grass-types and supporting Pokemon in VGC 2012. Serperior's high base 113 Speed helps differentiate itself from most Grass-types, however it faces competition from Whimsicott, who has access to Prankster. Serperior lacks the offensive stats to actually deal decent damage, so it's often left to support its team members. Its defensive stats aren't worth writing home about either, as it's weak to Fire- and Ice-type attacks&mdash;which are commonly seen&mdash;and has a small movepool, making it relatively predictable. Despite its disadvantages, Serperior can still do a decent job at supporting its teammates thanks to its great base Speed, but is outclassed by many other Pokemon.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Dual Screens
    move 1: Light Screen
    move 2: Reflect
    move 3: Giga Drain
    move 4: Glare / Taunt / Protect
    item: Mental Herb
    nature: Timid
    evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 4 SpA / 4 SpD / 244 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Serperior's high base Speed can allow it to function as a fast dual screen user. Light Screen and Reflect form the core of the set, while Giga Drain gives Serperior a way to recover HP and prevents it from becoming complete Taunt bait. Glare can paralyze opponents while being able to hit Ground-types. Taunt can prevent slower opponents, such as Cresselia, from setting up, and Protect allows Serperior to avoid damage for a turn.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs are set to give Serperior both speed and bulk, while adding a little to its defenses. Using maximum Speed is almost pointless as it doesn't let Serperior outspeed anything in particular. 244 Speed EVs hits 181 Speed, which outspeeds max Speed Thundurus and Tornadus and everything below, which includes base 110 Speed Pokemon. The rest of the EVs are placed in defenses and Special Attack, as to not waste EVs. Mental Herb is the item of choice due to the prevalence of Taunt users. Light Clay may be used to prolong the effects of Light Screen and Reflect, but Mental Herb is usually preferred due to the fast nature of VGC battles. Leaf Storm may be used over Giga Drain if you want a strong attack and don't care about HP recovery; Leaf Blade can also be used with a Jolly nature if you'd rather hit on the physical side. The set pairs well with offensive partners, such as Latios and Terrakion, as they appreciate the boosts given by dual screens. Slower Pokemon such as Metagross and Chandelure also do well with paralysis support from Glare.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Serperior's movepool is rather limited, but still has a few viable options. Serperior is the fastest Gastro Acid user in the game, and while it may seem gimmicky on paper it could potentially shut down Pokemon that heavily rely on their abilities, such as Swift Swim abusers. Serperior can also make good use of Leech Seed as it has low HP, which works well on foes with high HP stats, such as Chansey. Safeguard can be used to block status, and Mean Look prevents opponents from switching, which could allow a safe switch in for a counter. Sunny Day is useful for cancelling out unfavorable weather such as sand or hail.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Serperior's defenses are less than outstanding, so any heavy hitter with a strong Fire-, Ice-, or Flying-type move can easily take out Serperior if it hasn't set up dual screens yet. Faster opponents such as Weavile can easily remove Serperior with Fake Out and a STAB Ice Punch. Steel-types such as Metagross and Scizor take very little from Serperior's attacks and can effectively wall it. Prankster users such as Whimsicott and Thundurus can use Taunt to render Serperior useless, unless it has Mental Herb; any Pokemon with Taunt could shut it down as well.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Serperior's Dream World ability is Contrary, which has caused quite a stir. Overgrow is pointless for Serperior, so this ability would be preferred—Leaf Storm would replace Giga Drain on the main set.</p>
  2. Alakapimp

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    Yes they should, please read the sticky addressing that.
  3. Alakapimp

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    Giga Drain should move to the third moveslot. Any slot that has protect even slashed in needs to be last. Also generally an unlsashed move should probably go above something with three slashes.
  4. Nickscor

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    Thanks for letting me know that (I didn't know). I'll fix that up right now.

    Edit: Fixed.
  5. Alakapimp

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  6. JRank

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    Looks good to me, write it up QC 2 / 2
  7. Nickscor

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    Thank you Alaka and JRank, I'll see if I can write this up tomorrow. (Go 1.5 hours I have between classes)
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    Why can't this thing get it's DW ability already (Also a GP Placeholder)

    [Overview]

    <p>While its name may imply superiority over other Pokemon, Serperior is often seen as inferior to other Grass-types and supporting Pokemon in VGC 2012. Its Serperior's high base 113 Speed helps differentiate itself from most Grass-types, however it still faces competition against from Whimsicott, as it has access to Prankster. Serperior also lacks the offensive stats to actually deal sufficient damage, so is often left to support its team members. Its defensive stats aren't worth writing home about either, as its weak to Fire and Ice-type attacks which are commonly seen, and has thanks to a small movepool, making it is relatively predictable. However, Serperior can still do a decent job at supporting its teammates, but is outclassed by many other Pokemon.</p>
    (Idk, but maybe talk a bit more about what it CAN do, all I''m getting from this is that "DON'T EVER USE SERPERIOR EVER")

    [SET]
    {Remove Space}
    name: Dual Screens
    move 1: Light Screen
    move 2: Reflect
    move 3: Giga Drain
    move 4: Glare / Taunt / Protect
    item: Mental Herb
    nature: Timid
    ability: Overgrow
    evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 4 SpA / 4 SpD / 244 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Serperior's high speed can allow it to function as a fast Dual Screen user, allowing it to set up before most opponents can attack. Light Screen and Reflect form the core of the set, while Giga Drain gives Serperior a way to recover HP and prevents it from becoming a complete Taunt bait. Glare can paralyze opponents, and unlike Thunder Wave, can hit Ground-types. (Serperior doesn't get Thunder Wave, so idk if that comparison was necessary) Taunt can prevent slower opponents such as Cresselia from setting up, and Protect allows Serperior to avoid damage for a turn. The set pairs well with offensive partners as they appreciate the defense boosts granted by dual screens; slower Pokemon such as Metagross also do well with paralysis support from Glare.(Moved to AC)</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs are made to give Serperior both speed and bulk, while adding a little to Defenses. 252 Spe Using maximum Speed is almost pointless as running max speed doesn't outspeed anything in particular, rather, using 244 Spe EVs hits 181 Spe, which outspeeds max speed Thundurus and Tornadus (assuming they're not abusing Prankster) and everything below, which includes non-scarfed max speed Base 110's. The rest of the EVs are placed in defenses and special attack as to not waste EVs. Mental Herb is the item of choice due to the prevalence of Taunt users, however Light Clay may be used to prolong the effects of Light Screen and Reflect. However, Mental Herb is preferred due to the fast nature of VGC battles. Leaf Storm may be used over Giga Drain if you want a strong attack and don't care about HP recovery; Leaf Blade can also be used with a Jolly nature and the 4 SpA EVs shifted to Atk if you'd rather hit on the physical side.</p>

    <p>The set pairs well with offensive partners as they appreciate the defense boosts granted by dual screens; slower Pokemon such as Metagross also do well with paralysis support from Glare.{Insert more partners here}</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Serperior's movepool is rather limited, but still has a few viable moves other than the aforementioned set. Serperior is the fastest Gastro Acid user in the game and while it may seem gimmicky on paper, it could potentially shut down Pokemon that heavily rely on their abilities such as Swift Swim abusers. Serperior can also make good use of Leech Seed as it has low HP, which could be useful if the opponent has high HP, such as Chansey. Safeguard can be used to block status, and Mean Look for preventing opponents from switching which could allow a safe switch for a counter. Sunny Day is useful for canceling out unfavorable weather such as sand or hail.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Serperior's defenses are less than outstanding, so any heavy hitter with a strong Fire, Ice, or Flying-type move can easily take out Serperior if it hasn't set up screens yet. Faster opponents such as Weavile can easily remove Serperior with Fake Out and a STABed Ice Punch. Steel-types such as Metagross and Scizor take very little from Serperior's attacks and can effectively wall it. Priority taunters Prankster users such as Whimsicott and Thundurus can outspeed with Prankster use Taunt to and render Serperior useless unless it has Mental Herb, any Pokemon with Taunt could shut it down as well.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Serperior's Dream World ability is Contrary, which has caused quite a stir for being a broken ability. Overgrow is pointless for Serperior, so this ability would be preferred—Leaf Storm would replace Giga Drain on the main set.</p>
  9. November Blue

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    Working on top of TrollFreak's check.

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    Few more fixes (open)


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    GP Approved 1/2
  10. Nickscor

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    Changes implemented.
  11. Tolan

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    Hi. Amateur GP Check
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    There were many spacing errors, so I tried to fix all of the ones I saw.

  12. TrollFreak

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    Nicksor, you need to implement both me AND NoBlue changes
  13. Nickscor

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    I thought November's edits already had yours in. I'll fix that and put in Tolan's edits. (sorry about that)

    EDIT: All implemented, added more partners.
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    [Overview]

    <p>While its name may imply superiority over other Pokemon, Serperior is often seen as inferior to other Grass-types and supporting Pokemon in VGC 2012. Serperior's high base 113 Speed helps differentiate itself from most Grass-types, however it faces competition from Whimsicott, who has access to Prankster. Serperior lacks the offensive stats to actually deal decent damage, so it's often left to support its team members. Its defensive stats aren't worth writing home about either, as it's weak to Fire- and Ice-type attacks &mdash;which are commonly seen, &mdash;and has a small movepool, making it relatively predictable. Despite its disadvantages, Serperior can still do a decent job at supporting its teammates thanks to its sgreat base Speed, but is outclassed by many other Pokemon.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Dual Screens
    move 1: Light Screen
    move 2: Reflect
    move 3: Giga Drain
    move 4: Glare / Taunt / Protect
    item: Mental Herb
    nature: Timid
    evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 4 SpA / 4 SpD / 244 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Serperior's high sbase Speed can allow it to function as a fast dual screen user. Light Screen and Reflect form the core of the set, while Giga Drain gives Serperior a way to recover HP and prevents it from becoming complete Taunt bait. Glare can paralyze opponents while being able to hit Ground-types. Taunt can prevent slower opponents, such as Cresselia, from setting up, and Protect allows Serperior to avoid damage for a turn.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs are set to give Serperior both speed and bulk, while adding a little to its defenses. Using maximum Speed is almost pointless as it doesn't let Serperior doesn't outspeed anything in particular. 244 Speed EVs hits 181 Speed, which outspeeds max Speed Thundurus and Tornadus and everything below, which includes base 110 Speed Pokemon. The rest of the EVs are placed in defenses and Special Attack, as to not waste EVs. Mental Herb is the item of choice due to the prevalence of Taunt users. Light Clay may be used to prolong the effects of Light Screen and Reflect, but Mental Herb is usually preferred due to the fast nature of VGC battles. Leaf Storm may be used over Giga Drain if you want a strong attack and don't care about HP recovery; Leaf Blade can also be used with a Jolly nature if you'd rather hit on the physical side. The set pairs well with offensive partners as they appreciate the defense boosts granted by dual screens, such as Latios and Terrakion, such as Latios and Terrakion, as they appreciate the boosts given by dual screens. Slower Pokemon such as Metagross and Chandelure also do well with paralysis support from Glare.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Serperior's movepool is rather limited, but still has a few viable options. Serperior is the fastest Gastro Acid user in the game, and while it may seem gimmicky on paper it could potentially shut down Pokemon that heavily rely on their abilities, such as Swift Swim abusers. Serperior can also make good use of Leech Seed as it has low HP, which works well on foes with high HP stats, such as Chansey. Safeguard can be used to block status, and Mean Look for preventings opponents from switching, which could allow a safe switch in for a counter. Sunny Day is useful for cancelling out unfavorable weather such as sand or hail.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Serperior's defenses are less than outstanding, so any heavy hitter with a strong Fire-, Ice-, or Flying-type move can easily take out Serperior if it hasn't set up dual screens yet. Faster opponents such as Weavile can easily remove Serperior with Fake Out and a STAB Ice Punch. Steel-types such as Metagross and Scizor take very little from Serperior's attacks and can effectively wall it. Prankster users such as Whimsicott and Thundurus can use Taunt to render Serperior useless, unless it has Mental Herb; any Pokemon with Taunt could shut it down as well.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Serperior's Dream World ability is Contrary, which has caused quite a stir. Overgrow is pointless for Serperior, so this ability would be preferred—Leaf Storm would replace Giga Drain on the main set.</p>

    c/p (open)
    [Overview]

    <p>While its name may imply superiority over other Pokemon, Serperior is often seen as inferior to other Grass-types and supporting Pokemon in VGC 2012. Serperior's high base 113 Speed helps differentiate itself from most Grass-types, however it faces competition from Whimsicott, who has access to Prankster. Serperior lacks the offensive stats to actually deal decent damage, so it's often left to support its team members. Its defensive stats aren't worth writing home about either, as it's weak to Fire- and Ice-type attacks&mdash;which are commonly seen&mdash;and has a small movepool, making it relatively predictable. Despite its disadvantages, Serperior can still do a decent job at supporting its teammates thanks to its great base Speed, but is outclassed by many other Pokemon.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Dual Screens
    move 1: Light Screen
    move 2: Reflect
    move 3: Giga Drain
    move 4: Glare / Taunt / Protect
    item: Mental Herb
    nature: Timid
    evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 4 SpA / 4 SpD / 244 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Serperior's high base Speed can allow it to function as a fast dual screen user. Light Screen and Reflect form the core of the set, while Giga Drain gives Serperior a way to recover HP and prevents it from becoming complete Taunt bait. Glare can paralyze opponents while being able to hit Ground-types. Taunt can prevent slower opponents, such as Cresselia, from setting up, and Protect allows Serperior to avoid damage for a turn.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs are set to give Serperior both speed and bulk, while adding a little to its defenses. Using maximum Speed is almost pointless as it doesn't let Serperior outspeed anything in particular. 244 Speed EVs hits 181 Speed, which outspeeds max Speed Thundurus and Tornadus and everything below, which includes base 110 Speed Pokemon. The rest of the EVs are placed in defenses and Special Attack, as to not waste EVs. Mental Herb is the item of choice due to the prevalence of Taunt users. Light Clay may be used to prolong the effects of Light Screen and Reflect, but Mental Herb is usually preferred due to the fast nature of VGC battles. Leaf Storm may be used over Giga Drain if you want a strong attack and don't care about HP recovery; Leaf Blade can also be used with a Jolly nature if you'd rather hit on the physical side. The set pairs well with offensive partners, such as Latios and Terrakion, as they appreciate the boosts given by dual screens. Slower Pokemon such as Metagross and Chandelure also do well with paralysis support from Glare.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>Serperior's movepool is rather limited, but still has a few viable options. Serperior is the fastest Gastro Acid user in the game, and while it may seem gimmicky on paper it could potentially shut down Pokemon that heavily rely on their abilities, such as Swift Swim abusers. Serperior can also make good use of Leech Seed as it has low HP, which works well on foes with high HP stats, such as Chansey. Safeguard can be used to block status, and Mean Look prevents opponents from switching, which could allow a safe switch in for a counter. Sunny Day is useful for cancelling out unfavorable weather such as sand or hail.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Serperior's defenses are less than outstanding, so any heavy hitter with a strong Fire-, Ice-, or Flying-type move can easily take out Serperior if it hasn't set up dual screens yet. Faster opponents such as Weavile can easily remove Serperior with Fake Out and a STAB Ice Punch. Steel-types such as Metagross and Scizor take very little from Serperior's attacks and can effectively wall it. Prankster users such as Whimsicott and Thundurus can use Taunt to render Serperior useless, unless it has Mental Herb; any Pokemon with Taunt could shut it down as well.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Serperior's Dream World ability is Contrary, which has caused quite a stir. Overgrow is pointless for Serperior, so this ability would be preferred—Leaf Storm would replace Giga Drain on the main set.</p>

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  15. Nickscor

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    Thank you RitterCat, changes have been made.

    This is now ready for upload!
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