Shell Break

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  1. DDRMaster

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    At worst, Cloyster can switch into SR before it sets up, take Scizor's CB Bullet Punch at -1 Def, and still have over 10% health remaining. This means that it can KO Scizor with Shell Break, and still take something else out with Explosion (as long as they don't resist it) before being killed by LO recoil. I forget the exact EV spread I used for that calc, but it had just enough Speed to outrun Timid Scarf Heatran. Keep in mind that Cloyster can also run White Herb over Life Orb to give it a better ability to take priority moves.
  2. TerrickTerran

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    You Baton Pass all stat changes.
  3. NeoSeth

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    Your welcome for the calcs in the OP. ;) Totally C/P-ed them from my thread.
  4. jchen

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    or the other player is smart and sacs whatever is in on cloyster to hit it for a shitton, and THEN bring in scizor to bullet punch.

    How many pokemon have a combination of
    A) No special attacks
    B) No status /phazing moves
    C) No taunt
    D) No physical fighting or rock or electric attacks
    that are OU/uber?

    Cloyster can only set up if all of those conditions above are met.... and thats a lot of ifs.
  5. lumpor

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    Well, cloyster CAN take a x2 super effective physical hit or two, with normal defenses.
  6. Tobes

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    That "ohshit it's cloyster *slams attack button*" mentality is certainly going to give CB Cloyster a good time.
  7. The Messiah

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    wow this is a good move, it allows all of the above pokemon a chance in the above tier as a mixed sweeper, its really predictable though, when you see one of these pokemon you simply swap out to your revenge killer as they use shell break, i see it as less threatening now, priorty fighting technician seems to put a lot of them to sleep, hitmontop for example, having fake out as well just seems to sweeten the deal on its behalf, scizor is still up to scratch inthis department, but at this job hitmontop is superior
  8. MoogleEnsign

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    Cloyster, Omastar, and Gorebyss are the best users of shell break due to typing and movepool. Huntail is pretty good though his move pool isn't as good as that of gorebysses(which is to say, no eq, shadow ball, or any good coverage). That makes cloyster the best physcial shell breaker and gorebyss and omaster are now vying for who is the best special user. my bet's on gorebyss, as he has better typing for set up.
  9. Boarbaque

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    I am looking forward to sweeping with Cloyster and Torkoal.
  10. Not Scicky

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    Torkoal's not exactly a speed demon after +2
  11. PlatinumDude

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    It's sad that Blastoise and Torterra didn't get this move. If Daikenki had it, it'd be one of the best mixed sweepers around.

    Speculation aside, it's a godsend move because it actually gives slow, defensive Pokemon (like Cloyster and Iwaparesu) a chance to really hurt things.
  12. DrunkRaccoon

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    Yeah, I agree. Torterra would've loved Shell Break.
  13. alphatron

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    Perversity shuckle would have loved it too.
  14. Boarbaque

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    Pair Shell Break Cloyster with Skill Link and White Herb and you got yourselves an awesome pokemon!
  15. LightningLord2

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    Perversity Shuckle would get +1 on Defense and Special Defense and -2 Attack, Special Attack and Speed if it used Shell Break, basically just the same as Stockpile with stat drops on useless stats.
  16. Toothache

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    I suppose the advantage of Shell Break on Shuckle is that it can be used more than 3 times, so the defence/special defence can go above +3, a limitation of Stockpile. Its not like it needs to worry about its other stats besides HP anyway.
  17. alphatron

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    I seriously want to try this with Rain dance omastar. The survivability scares me though.
  18. Colon Three :3

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    I love when my opponent uses this on his cloyster/whatever on me. I just let him set up and KO my guy. Then I switch to ditto and destroy his entire team with it. feelsgoodman.jpg
  19. JTchinoy

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    When ditto transforms it takes the boosts as well?
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    That happened to me last night.. Who knew ditto would be such a monster.
  21. yytan12

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    I have been using macargo on a mono-fire sunny day team, and WOW! It is a better sweeper than blaziken!
  22. Tobes

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    Someone is clearly using Blaziken wrong.
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    He is using a mono-Fire and Sunny Day themed team. But then again, that may just mean that he has to be using his Blaziken for a speedy Sunny Day setup
  24. Tobes

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    Or he could, you know, run SD Blaziken, which outclasses Shell Break Magcargo in every way.
  25. Khan!!!

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    Shell break iwaparesu is the best flail user around.

    use shell break, get hit down to 1 hp thanks to sturdy, activate your salac berry. now you have +2 attack and +3 speed and if your max speed jolly, you outspeed scarfchomp.
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