Shiftry

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    [Overview]

    <p>Despite not changing very much since DPP, Shiftry can still pose a major offensive threat to the opponent. In addition to the plethora of moves to boost its mediocre stats, Shiftry also boasts an impressive offensive movepool. Unfortunately, Shiftry still suffers from the same problems as it did in previous generations: Shiftry has trouble sweeping through teams without a boost, and is fairly slow without sun. Although Shiftry has many resistances, they are offset by its frailty and equally many weaknesses. Nevertheless, Shiftry still remains an extremely dangerous threat that demolishes unprepared teams.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Swords Dance
    move 1: Swords Dance
    move 2: Sucker Punch
    move 3: Seed Bomb
    move 4: Nature Power / Rock Slide
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Chlorophyll
    nature: Adamant
    evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Shiftry's physical movepool, the highlight of which is STAB Sucker Punch, is sufficient for an effective Swords Dance set. Boosted by STAB, Shiftry boasts one of the most powerful Sucker Punches in the RU tier: at +2, it will destroy anything that doesn't resist it. Seed Bomb offers reliable STAB and is Shiftry's strongest attack when Sucker Punch is not an option. There are two options for the last slot. In simulator and Wi-Fi battles, Nature Power will always act as Earthquake (with double the PP), allowing Shiftry to hit Fire- and Steel-types harder than Rock Slide does. However, when coupled with Seed Bomb, Rock Slide provides better overall coverage than Nature Power does, only missing out on Steel-types. Rock Slide also hits Flying-types hoping to switch into a resisted Seed Bomb, most notably Moltres, who quadruply resists Seed Bomb and can evade Sucker Punch with Substitute. As with any other Sucker Punch user, this set requires heavy prediction when facing an opponent carrying Substitute, Trick, or any stat boosting move. When facing an opponent carrying a non-attacking move, Shiftry must either use one of its other attacks or take the opportunity to increase its Attack further with Swords Dance.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Since Sucker Punch can allow Shiftry to strike first, it can forgo a Speed-boosting nature for an Adamant one for more power. In a similar vein, Life Orb is non-negotiable on this set as Shiftry lacks significant power before a boost. Night Slash can be used over Sucker Punch as Shiftry's Dark-type STAB provided that Shiftry is given sun support, as priority won't be of much use thanks to Chlorophyll.</p>

    <p>In general, Sunny Day support eases prediction as Shiftry will be able to outspeed normally faster threats instead of having to rely on Sucker Punch to deal with them. Good supporters include Uxie, Mesprit and Claydol thanks to their bulk and various other support options. Shiftry has trouble switching in due to its frailty, but it does have six resistances and one immunity, so pairing it with a Pokemon with good synergy will give it more opportunities to safely switch in. Qwilfish makes a great partner thanks to its typing, as well as for its ability to lay down Spikes to further enhance Shiftry's sweeping capabilities. Moltres is an excellent offensive partner as it lures in bulky Water-types that Shiftry can easily set up on. Choice Scarf variants can also pick off faster foes if Shiftry isn't being played in sun. Furthermore, the two resist most of each other's weaknesses.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Nasty Plot
    move 1: Nasty Plot
    move 2: Giga Drain
    move 3: Dark Pulse
    move 4: Hidden Power Ground / Hidden Power Rock
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Chlorophyll
    nature: Modest / Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Shiftry sports a mediocre base 90 Special attack, it has all the moves necessary to run an effective Nasty Plot set. However, do note that this set has a tougher time sweeping though teams compared to the Swords Dance set; this is due to the lower base power of this set's attacks and Shiftry's lower Special Attack stat. For these reasons, multiple stat boosts are usually required. When trying to find set-up opportunities for this Shiftry, one must remember the threat of Swords Dance variants, which will likely result in the opponent switching to their physical wall. This set's coverage has the exact same purpose as the Swords Dance set. Giga Drain and Dark Pulse serve as dual STAB, and as an added bonus, Giga Drain mitigates Life Orb recoil and extends Shiftry's sweep. Dark Pulse is Shiftry's secondary STAB option, and its flinch rate will help Shiftry break down sturdy walls such as Sigilyph. Sunny Day support is highly recommended since this Shiftry lacks any way to beat faster Pokemon apart from paralysis support.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>As previously stated, without Sucker Punch, Shiftry has no way of dealing with faster foes, so Shiftry should opt for a Timid nature. The added Speed allows Shiftry to outspeed threats such as neutral-natured Moltres or Lilligant. However, a Timid nature is nearly worthless in sun, as Shiftry will outspeed the majority of the metagame with a Chlorophyll boost. In this case, a Modest nature is the main option for the power boost. Moreover, SolarBeam can be used over Giga Drain if Shiftry has sun support. SolarBeam provides a lot more power than Giga Drain, which Shiftry needs to compensate for its less-than-stellar Special Attack. SolarBeam is also a relatively safe option due to the lack of auto-weather inducers in RU. This Shiftry should look for partners that can set up sun for it. Uxie is the ideal partner for this job, thanks to its amazing bulk, which helps it set up sun reliably throughout a battle for Shiftry. Once again, Moltres makes a fine partner, particularly Sunny Day Moltres, as both sets rely on sun. Entry hazard support can greatly help Shiftry with a sweep. For instance, Toxic Spikes is great for wearing down special walls such as Munchlax while Shiftry attacks, and Stealth Rock will take 25% of the HP from opposing Fire-and Flying- that like to switch into Shiftry's Grass STAB. Qwilfish makes an excellent partner to set up Toxic Spikes for Shiftry as the two share nearly perfect synergy.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>SubSeed can be a viable strategy on Shiftry, especially in sun, but this set is generally outclassed by Sceptile, who has the Speed to function outside of sun. A Choice set might seem tempting to boost Shiftry's mediocre Speed and attacking stats; however, a Choice Scarf set would lack power, and a Choice Specs or Band set would lack Speed. Sun support remedies the latter, although Shiftry is better off abusing its coverage while it has a Chlorophyll boost. Shiftry's Swords Dance set has a number of different options it can utilize. X-Scissor is notable for hitting Grass-types, and Low Kick can be used over Rock Slide or Nature Power, although its inconsistent damage can be a turn off. Quick Attack gives Shiftry a safer form of priority, but it has miserable type coverage and damage output. Finally, Explosion is viable simply due to the fact that Ghost-, Steel- and Rock-types aren't likely to switch in fearing Nature Power or STAB Seed Bomb.</p>

    <p>Hidden Power Fighting can be used on the Nasty Plot set to achieve perfect coverage along with Dark Pulse. Focus Blast is another alternative; it offers much more power, but has imperfect accuracy, and with Shiftry's defenses (or lack thereof), a miss can be fatal. Energy Ball can be used, but the 5 extra Base Power usually isn't worth forgoing the ability to heal off Life Orb damage with Giga Drain. Furthermore, the extra power is usually irrelevant after a Nasty Plot boost. Extrasensory is another option on the Nasty Plot set; it hits Fighting-type Pokemon hoping to tank a resisted Dark Pulse and KO Shiftry with their super effective STAB attacks. Finally, a SunnyBeam set can be used; such a set would be based on boosting Shiftry's Speed with Sunny Day and attacking with a reliable SolarBeam.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Due to sheer versatility and a strong Sucker Punch, Shiftry is very difficult to counter. Perhaps Shiftry's biggest flaw is that it has to set up before it can do any significant damage. For this reason, one of the best ways to deal with Shiftry is to just hit it hard; Shiftry's poor defenses mean any strong STAB attack will KO it. One can also play around Sucker Punch by inflicting status on Shiftry or phazing it out. Even after a boost, Swords Dance Shiftry fails to break though Gligar and Tangrowth, and can be stalled out with Life Orb damage. Ferroseed walls the Swords Dance set if Shiftry isn't using Brick Break. Strong Mach Punch or Vacuum Wave users, such as Hitmonchan, resist Sucker Punch and score a clean OHKO. Shiftry's Nasty Plot set also suffers from this problem but is also weak to the rare Ice Shard users. Rotom-C is a great check to Shiftry, as it boasts solid base 107 deffenses. It also resist Shiftry's Grass attacks and due to Rotom-C losing it's secondary Ghost-typing, Shiftry can no longer get past Rotom-C with it's Dark STAB. Munchlax and Mandibuzz run into very few problems walling the Nasty Plot set. Even at +2, Hidden Power Rock will fail to OHKO Mandibuzz while Munchlax can confidently stay in on any of Shiftry's +2 attacks and cripple it with Body Slam. Bouffalant deserves a special mention as a check. Substitute is a common move on Bouffalant so Sucker Punch isn't always an option, and thanks its ability Sap Sipper, Shiftry will have to resort to its non-STAB attack. Unboosted, this non-STAB attack won't be enough to break through Bouffalant's bulk.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Shiftry gets Pickpocket as its Dream World ability. This allows Shiftry to switch in on a contact move and steal the opponent's item, most notably an Eviolite from Munchlax, Although Shiftry can cripple an opponent with a well-timed switch, Pickpocket is fairly situational and Shiftry really needs a Life Orb to sweep.</p>
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    hey brizzznetz, great analysis to start off,

    but why not slash nature power? it becomes eartquake on PO and allows you to hit steels such as klinklang, which you couldnt do with the set you currently have.

    definatley worth a slash imo
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    Yeah, Nature Power>Rock Slide. Also Growth and Sunny Day should go to OO.
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    firstly, i definitely agree with other posters that nature power should be slashed before rock slide on the SD set.

    on the nasty plot set, i think you should stress how that shifty set pretty much NEEDS to be used on a sun team. i know that you already have written that sun support is recommended, but i seriously think you should state that it is necessary. shifty is way too slow to sweep without a speed boost or any form of priority; without sun support, it'll be revenge killed by anything that's even reasonably fast. just stress that sun support is necessary for the set to succeed. i also think that modest should be slashed BEFORE timid, as iirc shiftry doesnt outspeed anything important by running timid if it has sunny day support. i could be wrong about that though, so if i am, feel free to correct me. finally, i think you should slash hidden power fire after hidden power rock so shiftry can hit grass-types, or at least mention it in AC.
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    I'll slash Nature Power. It also hits Entei harder!

    Yes Timid is kind of useless when sun is up, but it allows Shiftry to outspeed neutral Krookodile, Moltres, Lilligant, and Porygon-Z without sun (which is pretty useful imo). I still have to do some damage clacs with Modest though.

    I'll ac HP Fire for now because with enough boost Shiftry can get past Grass-types with Dark Pulse.
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    Some nitpicks:

    -Early bird really sucks, why slash it ?
    -Tangrowth is a check to the SD set and takes anything Shiftry can throw. +2 Sucker Punch does 47.77% - 56.44% while Tang can put it to sleep.
    -Instead of CS Moltres, I'd add a moltres set with roost like offensive or subroost with enough speed to beat common fighting priority users like hitmonchan. CS Moltres will die really fast with SR.
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    • Make sure you make Nature Power the primary slash on the main set.
    • Chlorophyll should be the main set to combat opposing sun teams, Early Bird is nearly worthless
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    The second sets additional comments are kind of sparse, adding some specific teammates for that set is a good ides.

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    Ahhh, sorry to add this in after you've already received the other checks, but be sure to AC mention Solarbeam in the NP set, since it hits significantly harder than Giga Drain and Shiftry should only be used in sun anyways. The lack of any permanent weather inducers in the tier also helps make it more viable.

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    Ok, thanks for the checks everyone :D. I'll be sure to ac SolarBeam in the actual write up.
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    Nature Power > Rock Slide is recommended for more power and accuracy, as well as coverage. Anyhow, I think Early Bird > Chlorophyll, since Sun is pretty much nonexistant in RU. At least Early Bird will be able to be used, and halving sleep time is rather swish. Nice set, overall!
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    I'm kind of late to the party, but what does Shiftry need max speed for? If you shoot for outspeeding bulk up gallade you have a significant amount left to invest in bulk. What lives in the gap between 208 and 259 that you cant hit with sucker punch?
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    This is now ready for GP checks. Sorry for the delay.

    Oh and gl GP team :/

    edit: forgot to change to prefix :/, thanks mod :)
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    <p>Despite not changing very much since Generation IV, Shiftry still has all the tools necessary to can still pose a major offensive threat to the opponent. In addition to the plethora of moves to boost Shiftry's medicore stats, Shiftry also boasts an impressive offensive movepool. Unfortunatly, Shiftry still suffers from the same problems as it did in the past generations. It has trouble sweeping through teams without a boost, and is fairly slow without sun. And although, (no comma) Shiftry has a lot of resistances, they are offset by Shiftry's frailty and many weaknesses. Nevertheless, Shiftry still remains an extremely dangerous threat that is ready to demolish unprepared teams.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Swords Dance
    move 1: Swords Dance
    move 2: Sucker Punch
    move 3: Seed Bomb
    move 4: Nature Power / Rock Slide
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Chlorophyll
    nature: Adamant
    evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Shiftry's physical movepool, highlighted by a STAB Sucker Punch, (comma) is sufficient for an effective Swords Dance set. Boosted by STAB, Shiftry boasts one of the most powerful Sucker Punches in the RU tier; (semicolon) and at +2, it will destroy anything that doesn't resist it. Seed Bomb offers reliable STAB and is Shiftry's strongest attack when Sucker Punch is not an option. There are two options for the last slot. In simulator and Wi-Fi battles, Nature Power will always act as the attack Earthquake (with double the PP), allowing Shiftry to hit Fire- and Steel-types harder than Rock Slide. However, coupled with Seed Bomb, Rock Slide provides better overall coverage than Nature Power, only missing out on Steel-types. It also hits Flying-types hoping to switch into and resist a Seed Bomb, most notably Moltres, who x4 resists Seed Bomb and can evade Sucker Punch by using Substitute. Life Orb is very important on this set, (comma) since Shiftry lacks significant power before a boost. Like any set with Sucker Punch, this set requires heavy prediction when facing an opponent carrying Substitute, Trick, (comma) or any stat boosting move. When facing an opponent carrying a non-attacking move, Shiftry must either use one of its other attacks or further increase its attack with Swords Dance.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL OPTIONS]

    <p>Since Sucker Punch can allow Shiftry to strike first, it can forgo speed and run an Adamant nature for an increase of power. Having Sunny Day support eases prediction since Shiftry will be able outspeed normally faster threats instead of having to rely on Sucker Punch to deal with them. Night Slash can be used as Shiftry's Dark-type STAB over Sucker Punch, provided that Shiftry is being played in the sun where priority won't be of much use thanks to Chlorophyll. Shiftry has trouble switching in due to its frailty, but However, Shiftry has six resistences and one imminuty, so pairing it with a Pokemon who synergizes matches up well with Shiftry's typing will give it more opportunities to safely switch in. Qwilfish makes a great partner thanks to its typing and in terms of synergy and for its ability to lay down Spikes to further enhance Shiftry's sweeeping capability. Moltres is an excellent offensive partner, as it lures in bulky Water-types that Shiftry can easily set up on. Moltres, especially Choice Scarf variants, can also pick off faster foes if Shiftry isn't being played in sun. Furthermore, the two resist a majority of each other's weaknesses.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Nasty Plot
    move 1: Nasty Plot
    move 2: Giga Drain
    move 3: Dark Pulse
    move 4: Hidden Power Ground / Hidden Power Rock
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Chlorophyll
    nature: Modest / Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Shiftry sports a mediocre base 90 Special attack, it has all the moves necessary to run an effective set that aims to sweep with Nasty Plot. This set has a noticeably tougher time sweeping though teams compared to the Swords Dance set. This is due to the lower base power of this set's attacks and Shiftry's lower Special attack stat. For these reasons, multiple stat boost are usually required. When trying to find set up opportunities for this Shiftry, one must remember the threat of Swords Dance variants which may result in the opponent switching to their physical wall. This sets coverage has the exact same purpose as the Swords Dance version. Giga Drain and Dark Pulse serve as dual STAB, (comma) and as an added bonus Giga Drain mitigates Life Orb recoil and can extend Shiftry's sweep. Dark Pulse is the secondary STAB option, (comma) and its flinch rate will help Shiftry break down sturdy walls such as Sigilyph. Sunny Day support is highly recommended, (comma) since this Shiftry lacks any way to beat faster Pokemon apart from paralysis support.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL OPTIONS]

    <p>As previously stated, without Sucker Punch Shiftry has no ways of dealing with faster foes, (comma) so Shiftry may opt for a Timid nature. This allows Shiftry to outspeed threats such as neutral natured Moltres and Lilligant. However, Timid nature is near worthless when sun is up, (comma) as Shiftry will outspeed the majority of the metagame with a Chlorophyll boost. In this case, (comma) a Modest nature is the main option due to its power boost. SolarBeam can be used over Giga Drain if Shiftry has sun support. SolarBeam provides a lot more power than Giga Drain, and Shiftry needs it to compensate for its less-than-stellar Special Attack. SolarBeam is also a generally safer option than in would be in the higher tiers due to the lack of auto-weather inducers in RU. This Shiftry should look for partners that can set up sun for it. Uxie is the ideal partner for this job, (comma) thanks to its amazing bulk, which it can use to set up sun reliably throughout a battle for Shiftry. Once again, Moltres makes a fine partner, particularly offensive Sunny Day Moltres, (comma) since both sets rely on sun.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>SubSeed can be a viable strategy on Shiftry, especially in sun, although this set is generally out classed by Sceptile who has the speed to operate without the need of sun. A Choiced set may seem tempting on Shiftry to boost its mediocre speed or attacking stats, but a Choice Scarf set would lack power and a Choice Specs or Band set would lack speed. Sun remedies this, although Shiftry is better off abusing its coverage while it has a Chlorophyll boost. Shiftry's Swords Dance set has a number of different options it can utilize. X-Scissor is notable for hitting Grass-types, and Low Kick can be used over Rock Slide or Nature Power, although it's inconsistent damage may be a turn off. Quick Attack gives Shiftry a safer form of priority, but it has a miserable type coverage and damage output, (comma) even at +4. Finally, Explosion can be used, (comma) due to the fact that Steel- and Rock-types won't likely switch in fearing a Nature Power or STAB Seed Bomb.</p>

    <p>Hidden Power Fighting can be used on the Nasty Plot set to achieve perfect coverage along with Dark Pulse. Focus blast is another alternative. It offers much more power, but it has imperfect accuracy, and with Shiftry's defenses (or lack thereof), a miss can be fatal. Energy Ball can be used, with power in between Giga Drain and SolarBeam on the Nasty Plot set, but the 5 extra base power usually isn't worth forgoing the ability to heal off Life Orb recoil with Giga Drain. Furthermore, that 5 extra base power usually becomes irrelevant after a Nasty Plot boost. Extrasensory is another option on the Nasty Plot set; (semicolon) it hits Fighting-type Pokemon trying to resist Shiftry's Dark Pulse and strike back with their super their effective STAB attacks. Finally, a SunnyBeamer set can be used, (comma) based on boosting Shiftry's own speed with Sunny Day and attacking with a reliable SolarBeam</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Due to sheer versatility and a strong Sucker Punch, Shiftry is very difficult to counter. Perhaps Shiftry's biggest exploit is that it has to set up before it can do any significant damage. For this reason, one of the best ways to deal with Shiftry is to just hit it outright and not let it set up. Shiftry's poor defenses mean that any decently strong STAB attack will KO or cripple it. One can also play around Sucker Punch by statusing getting status on Shiftry or phazing it out. Even at +2, Swords Dance Shiftry fails to break though Gligar and Tangrowth and is stalled out with Life Orb damage, (comma) and Ferroseed walls the Swords Dance set if you're not using Brick Break. Strong Mach Punch or Vacuum Wave users such as Hitmonchan resist Sucker Punch and can score a clean OHKO. Shiftry's Nasty Plot set also suffers from this problem, but is also weak to the rare Ice Shard users. Nasty Plot Shifty is shut down by Munchlax, (comma) who can phaze Shiftry out or cripple it with Body Slam</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Shiftry gets Pickpocket as its Dream World ability. This allows Shiftry to switch in on a contact move and steal the opponent's item, most notably an Eviolite from Munchlax or Gligar. Although Shiftry can cripple an opponent with a well timed switch in, Pickpocket is fairly situational and Shiftry really needs a Life Orb to sweep.</p>
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    Holy crap how did I miss all of that :evan:

    Thanks for the check GatoDelFuego, implemented.
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    [Overview]

    <p>Despite not changing very much since DPP, Shiftry can still pose a major offensive threat to the opponent. In addition to the plethora of moves to boost its mediocre stats, Shiftry also boasts an impressive offensive movepool. Unfortunately, Shiftry still suffers from the same problems as it did in previous generations: Shiftry has trouble sweeping through teams without a boost, and is fairly slow without sun. Although Shiftry has many resistances, they are offset by its frailty and equally many weaknesses. Nevertheless, Shiftry still remains an extremely dangerous threat that is ready to demolish unprepared teams.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Swords Dance
    move 1: Swords Dance
    move 2: Sucker Punch
    move 3: Seed Bomb
    move 4: Nature Power / Rock Slide
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Chlorophyll
    nature: Adamant
    evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Shiftry's physical movepool, the highlight of which is STAB Sucker Punch, is sufficient for an effective Swords Dance set. Boosted by STAB, Shiftry boasts one of the most powerful Sucker Punches in the RU tier: at +2, it will destroy anything that doesn't resist it. Seed Bomb offers reliable STAB and is Shiftry's strongest attack when Sucker Punch is not an option. There are two options for the last slot. In simulator and Wi-Fi battles, Nature Power will always act as Earthquake (with double the PP), allowing Shiftry to hit Fire- and Steel-types harder than Rock Slide does. However, when coupled with Seed Bomb, Rock Slide provides better overall coverage than Nature Power does, only missing out on Steel-types. Rock Slide also hits Flying-types hoping to switch into a resisted Seed Bomb, most notably Moltres, who quadruply resists Seed Bomb and can evade Sucker Punch with Substitute. As with any other user of Sucker Punch, this set requires heavy prediction when facing an opponent carrying Substitute, Trick, or any stat boosting move. When facing an opponent carrying a non-attacking move, Shiftry must either use one of its other attacks or take the opportunity to increase its Attack further with Swords Dance.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Since Sucker Punch can allow Shiftry to strike first, it can forgo a Speed-boosting nature for an Adamant one for more power. In a similar vein, Life Orb is non-negotiable on this set as Shiftry lacks significant power before a boost. Night Slash can be used over Sucker Punch as Shiftry's Dark-type STAB provided that Shiftry is given sun support, as priority won't be of much use thanks to Chlorophyll.</p>

    <p>In general, Sunny Day support eases prediction as Shiftry will be able to outspeed normally faster threats instead of having to rely on Sucker Punch to deal with them. Good sources of sun support include <examples>. Shiftry has trouble switching in due to its frailty, but it does have six resistances and one immunity, so pairing it with a Pokemon with good synergy will give it more opportunities to safely switch in. Qwilfish makes a great partner thanks to its typing, as well as for its ability to lay down Spikes to further enhance Shiftry's sweeping capabilities. Moltres is an excellent offensive partner as it lures in bulky Water-types that Shiftry can easily set up on. Choice Scarf variants can also pick off faster foes if Shiftry isn't being played in sun. Furthermore, the two resist a majority of each other's weaknesses.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Nasty Plot
    move 1: Nasty Plot
    move 2: Giga Drain
    move 3: Dark Pulse
    move 4: Hidden Power Ground / Hidden Power Rock
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Chlorophyll
    nature: Modest / Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Shiftry sports a mediocre base 90 Special attack, it has all the moves necessary to run an effective Nasty Plot set. However, do note that this set has a noticeably tougher time sweeping though teams compared to the Swords Dance set; this is due to the lower base power of this set's attacks and Shiftry's lower Special Attack stat. For these reasons, multiple stat boosts are usually required. When trying to find set up opportunities for this Shiftry, one must remember the threat of Swords Dance variants, which will likely result in the opponent switching to their physical wall. This set's coverage has the exact same purpose as the Swords Dance set. Giga Drain and Dark Pulse serve as dual STAB, and as an added bonus, Giga Drain mitigates Life Orb recoil and can extend Shiftry's sweep. Dark Pulse is Shiftry's secondary STAB option, and its flinch rate will help Shiftry break down sturdy walls such as Sigilyph. Sunny Day support is highly recommended since this Shiftry lacks any way to beat faster Pokemon apart from paralysis support.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>As previously stated, without Sucker Punch, Shiftry has no way of dealing with faster foes, so Shiftry should opt for a Timid nature. The added Speed allows Shiftry to outspeed threats <either "such as all Lilligant and neutral-natured Moltres" or "such as neutral-natured Lilligant and Moltres"; which do you mean?">. However, a Timid nature is near-worthless in sun, as Shiftry will outspeed the majority of the metagame with a Chlorophyll boost. In this case, a Modest nature is the main option for the power boost. Moreover, SolarBeam can be used over Giga Drain if Shiftry has sun support. SolarBeam provides a lot more power than Giga Drain, which Shiftry needs to compensate for its less-than-stellar Special Attack. SolarBeam is also a relatively safe option due to the lack of auto-weather inducers in RU. This Shiftry should look for partners that can set up sun for it. Uxie is the ideal partner for this job, thanks to its amazing bulk, which it can use to set up sun reliably throughout a battle for Shiftry. Once again, Moltres makes a fine partner for its resistances to <which types were you referring to above?>, particularly Sunny Day Moltres, as both sets rely on sun.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>SubSeed can be a viable strategy on Shiftry, especially in sun, but this set is generally outclassed by Sceptile, who has the Speed to function outside of sun. A Choice set might seem tempting to boost Shiftry's mediocre Speed and attacking stats; however, a Choice Scarf set would lack power, and a Choice Specs or Band set would lack Speed. Sun support remedies the latter, although Shiftry is better off abusing its coverage while it has a Chlorophyll boost. Shiftry's Swords Dance set has a number of different options it can utilize. X-Scissor is noteble for hitting Grass-types, and Low Kick can be used over Rock Slide or Nature Power, although its inconsistent damage can be a turn off. Quick Attack gives Shiftry a safer form of priority, but it has miserable type coverage and damage output. Finally, Explosion is viable simply due to the fact that Steel- and Rock-types aren't likely to switch in fearing a Nature Power or STAB Seed Bomb. <ghost-types want in on this list too></p>

    <p>Hidden Power Fighting can be used on the Nasty Plot set to achieve perfect coverage along with Dark Pulse. Focus Blast is another alternative; it offers much more power, but has imperfect accuracy, and with Shiftry's defenses (or lack thereof), a miss can be fatal. Energy Ball can be used, but the 5 extra Base Power usually isn't worth forgoing the ability to heal off Life Orb damage with Giga Drain. Furthermore, the extra power is usually irrelevant after a Nasty Plot boost. Extrasensory is another option on the Nasty Plot set; it hits Fighting-type Pokemon hoping to tank a resisted Dark Pulse and KO Shiftry with their super effective STAB attacks. Finally, a SunnyBeam set can be used; such a set would be based on on boosting Shiftry's Speed with Sunny Day and attacking with a reliable SolarBeam.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Due to sheer versatility and a strong Sucker Punch, Shiftry is very difficult to counter. Perhaps Shiftry's biggest flaw is that it has to set up before it can do any significant damage. For this reason, one of the best ways to deal with Shiftry is to just hit it hard; Shiftry's poor defenses mean any strong STAB attack will KO it. One can also play around Sucker Punch by inflicting status on Shiftry or phazing it out. Even after a boost, Swords Dance Shiftry fails to break though Gligar and Tangrowth, and can be stalled out with Life Orb damage. Ferroseed walls the Swords Dance set if Shiftry isn't using Brick Break. Strong Mach Punch or Vacuum Wave users, such as Hitmonchan, resist Sucker Punch and can score a clean OHKO. Shiftry's Nasty Plot set also suffers from this problem, but is also weak to the rare Ice Shard users. Nasty Plot Shifty is shut down by Munchlax, who can phaze Shiftry out or cripple it with Body Slam.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Shiftry gets Pickpocket as its Dream World ability. This allows Shiftry to switch in on a contact move and steal the opponent's item, most notably an Eviolite from Munchlax or Gligar <neither earthquake nor stone edge is a contact move, so no, not really>. Although Shiftry can cripple an opponent with a well-timed switch, Pickpocket is fairly situational and Shiftry really needs a Life Orb to sweep.</p>
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    Done. Thanks for the check sirndpt, ready for the next one

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    [Overview]

    <p>Despite not changing very much since DPP, Shiftry can still pose a major offensive threat to the opponent. In addition to the plethora of moves to boost its mediocre stats, Shiftry also boasts an impressive offensive movepool. Unfortunately, Shiftry still suffers from the same problems as it did in previous generations: Shiftry has trouble sweeping through teams without a boost, and is fairly slow without sun. Although Shiftry has many resistances, they are offset by its frailty and equally many weaknesses. Nevertheless, Shiftry still remains an extremely dangerous threat that is ready to demolishes unprepared teams.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Swords Dance
    move 1: Swords Dance
    move 2: Sucker Punch
    move 3: Seed Bomb
    move 4: Nature Power / Rock Slide
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Chlorophyll
    nature: Adamant
    evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Shiftry's physical movepool, the highlight of which is STAB Sucker Punch, is sufficient for an effective Swords Dance set. Boosted by STAB, Shiftry boasts one of the most powerful Sucker Punches in the RU tier: at +2, it will destroy anything that doesn't resist it. Seed Bomb offers reliable STAB and is Shiftry's strongest attack when Sucker Punch is not an option. There are two options for the last slot. In simulator and Wi-Fi battles, Nature Power will always act as Earthquake (with double the PP), allowing Shiftry to hit Fire- and Steel-types harder than Rock Slide does. However, when coupled with Seed Bomb, Rock Slide provides better overall coverage than Nature Power does, only missing out on Steel-types. Rock Slide also hits Flying-types hoping to switch into a resisted Seed Bomb, most notably Moltres, who quadruply resists Seed Bomb and can evade Sucker Punch with Substitute. As with any other Sucker Punch user, of Sucker Punch, this set requires heavy prediction when facing an opponent carrying Substitute, Trick, or any stat boosting move. When facing an opponent carrying a non-attacking move, Shiftry must either use one of its other attacks or take the opportunity to increase its Attack further with Swords Dance.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Since Sucker Punch can allow Shiftry to strike first, it can forgo a Speed-boosting nature for an Adamant one for more power. In a similar vein, Life Orb is non-negotiable on this set as Shiftry lacks significant power before a boost. Night Slash can be used over Sucker Punch as Shiftry's Dark-type STAB provided that Shiftry is given sun support, as priority won't be of much use thanks to Chlorophyll.</p>

    <p>In general, Sunny Day support eases prediction as Shiftry will be able to outspeed normally faster threats instead of having to rely on Sucker Punch to deal with them. Good sources of sun supporters include Uxie, Mesprit and Claydol thanks to their bulk and various other support options. Shiftry has trouble switching in due to its frailty, but it does have six resistances and one immunity, so pairing it with a Pokemon with good synergy will give it more opportunities to safely switch in. Qwilfish makes a great partner thanks to its typing, as well as for its ability to lay down Spikes to further enhance Shiftry's sweeping capabilities. Moltres is an excellent offensive partner as it lures in bulky Water-types that Shiftry can easily set up on. Choice Scarf variants can also pick off faster foes if Shiftry isn't being played in sun. Furthermore, the two resist most of each other's weaknesses.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Nasty Plot
    move 1: Nasty Plot
    move 2: Giga Drain
    move 3: Dark Pulse
    move 4: Hidden Power Ground / Hidden Power Rock
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Chlorophyll
    nature: Modest / Timid
    evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Although Shiftry sports a mediocre base 90 Special attack, it has all the moves necessary to run an effective Nasty Plot set. However, do note that this set has a noticeably tougher time sweeping though teams compared to the Swords Dance set; this is due to the lower base power of this set's attacks and Shiftry's lower Special Attack stat. For these reasons, multiple stat boosts are usually required. When trying to find set-up opportunities for this Shiftry, one must remember the threat of Swords Dance variants, which will likely result in the opponent switching to their physical wall. This set's coverage has the exact same purpose as the Swords Dance set. Giga Drain and Dark Pulse serve as dual STAB, and as an added bonus, Giga Drain mitigates Life Orb recoil and can extends Shiftry's sweep. Dark Pulse is Shiftry's secondary STAB option, and its flinch rate will help Shiftry break down sturdy walls such as Sigilyph. Sunny Day support is highly recommended since this Shiftry lacks any way to beat faster Pokemon apart from paralysis support.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>As previously stated, without Sucker Punch, Shiftry has no way of dealing with faster foes, so Shiftry should opt for a Timid nature. The added Speed allows Shiftry to outspeed threats such as all Lilligant and neutral-natured Moltres. and Lilligant. However, a Timid nature is nearly worthless in sun, as Shiftry will outspeed the majority of the metagame with a Chlorophyll boost. In this case, a Modest nature is the main option for the power boost. Moreover, SolarBeam can be used over Giga Drain if Shiftry has sun support. SolarBeam provides a lot more power than Giga Drain, which Shiftry needs to compensate for its less-than-stellar Special Attack. SolarBeam is also a relatively safe option due to the lack of auto-weather inducers in RU. This Shiftry should look for partners that can set up sun for it. Uxie is the ideal partner for this job, thanks to its amazing bulk, which helps it set up sun reliably throughout a battle for Shiftry. Once again, Moltres makes a fine partner, particularly Sunny Day Moltres, as both sets rely on sun.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>SubSeed can be a viable strategy on Shiftry, especially in sun, but this set is generally outclassed by Sceptile, who has the Speed to function outside of sun. A Choice set might seem tempting to boost Shiftry's mediocre Speed and attacking stats; however, a Choice Scarf set would lack power, and a Choice Specs or Band set would lack Speed. Sun support remedies the latter, although Shiftry is better off abusing its coverage while it has a Chlorophyll boost. Shiftry's Swords Dance set has a number of different options it can utilize. X-Scissor is notable for hitting Grass-types, and Low Kick can be used over Rock Slide or Nature Power, although its inconsistent damage can be a turn off. Quick Attack gives Shiftry a safer form of priority, but it has miserable type coverage and damage output. Finally, Explosion is viable simply due to the fact that Ghost-, Steel- and Rock-types aren't likely to switch in fearing a Nature Power or STAB Seed Bomb.</p>

    <p>Hidden Power Fighting can be used on the Nasty Plot set to achieve perfect coverage along with Dark Pulse. Focus Blast is another alternative; it offers much more power, but has imperfect accuracy, and with Shiftry's defenses (or lack thereof), a miss can be fatal. Energy Ball can be used, but the 5 extra Base Power usually isn't worth forgoing the ability to heal off Life Orb damage with Giga Drain. Furthermore, the extra power is usually irrelevant after a Nasty Plot boost. Extrasensory is another option on the Nasty Plot set; it hits Fighting-type Pokemon hoping to tank a resisted Dark Pulse and KO Shiftry with their super effective STAB attacks. Finally, a SunnyBeam set can be used; such a set would be based on on boosting Shiftry's Speed with Sunny Day and attacking with a reliable SolarBeam.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Due to sheer versatility and a strong Sucker Punch, Shiftry is very difficult to counter. Perhaps Shiftry's biggest flaw is that it has to set up before it can do any significant damage. For this reason, one of the best ways to deal with Shiftry is to just hit it hard; Shiftry's poor defenses mean any strong STAB attack will KO it. One can also play around Sucker Punch by inflicting status on Shiftry or phazing it out. Even after a boost, Swords Dance Shiftry fails to break though Gligar and Tangrowth, and can be stalled out with Life Orb damage. Ferroseed walls the Swords Dance set if Shiftry isn't using Brick Break. Strong Mach Punch or Vacuum Wave users, such as Hitmonchan, resist Sucker Punch and can score a clean OHKO. Shiftry's Nasty Plot set also suffers from this problem, but is also weak to the rare Ice Shard users. Nasty Plot Shifty is shut down by Munchlax, who can phaze Shiftry out or cripple it with Body Slam.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Shiftry gets Pickpocket as its Dream World ability. This allows Shiftry to switch in on a contact move and steal the opponent's item, most notably an Eviolite from Munchlax, Although Shiftry can cripple an opponent with a well-timed switch, Pickpocket is fairly situational and Shiftry really needs a Life Orb to sweep.</p>


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    Thanks for the check, this is done now :D
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    Can you mention entry hazards on the Nasty Plot set. You could also mention physical attackers, such as Zweilous or Fraxure, that can open up holes in the opponent's team. Toxic Spikes are particularly helpful to wear down specially defensive Pokemon, such as Munchlax, and Stealth Rock for Mandibuzz. Maybe you could mention something to get past support Rotom-C as well, cause it's no longer a Ghost-type.

    The Checks and Counters section could do with some beefing up as well. What about Mandibuzz, Sap Sipper Bouffalant, and Moltres (of course, you rely on Hidden Power for Mandibuzz and Moltres).
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    ^Sorry about not including those in the first place. They're in now. I got Jellicent to GP check my additions.

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    Thanks, that's a lot better! Uploading.

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