Shoddy Learnset Checking

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    To make sure you use the right learnset, log on to the Smogon Shoddy Server, then open the team Builder. Or make sure that when you open it, you choose the Smogon Metagame and not the Standard Metgame.

    It has come to our attention that some Pokemon on shoddy have moves that should not have, as well as pokemon not having moves they should. This project aims to correct that.

    If you post in the project, that means that you have Checked EVERY move on shoddy with a Serebii's 3rd gen and 4th gen Pokedex. Do not use smogon's dex because not all the moves are their. Also, you need to use Serebii's 3 gen dex because some event moves from the third gen, as well as third gen move tutors are only listed there.

    Psypokes' Learndex: Contains all moves in alphabetical order
    If you have any problems, please post them below after you have checked the Pokemon.

    Just so I know you've read this, post Fine in bold when you finish a pokemon so i know to look for the words in Bold.

    Also, Natural Gift, Fling, and Recycle are not programmed yet into shoddy.

    Pokemon left to check:


    Pokemon Checked that need nothing:
    Code:
    001 Bulbasaur
    002 Ivysaur
    003 Venusaur
    007 Squirtle
    008 Wartortle
    009 Blastoise
    010 Caterpie
    011 Metapod
    012 Butterfree
    013 Weedle
    014 Kakuna
    015 Beedrill
    016 Pidgey
    017 Pidgeotto
    018 Pidgeot
    019 Rattata
    020 Raticate
    022 Fearow
    023 Ekans
    024 Arbok
    027 Sandshrew
    028 Sandslash
    029 Nidoran-F
    030 Nidorina
    032 Nidoran-M
    033 Nidorino
    035 Clefairy
    036 Clefable
    041 Zubat
    042 Golbat
    043 Oddish
    044 Gloom
    045 Vileplume
    046 Paras
    047 Parasect
    048 Venonat
    049 Venomoth
    050 Diglett
    051 Dugtrio
    052 Meowth
    053 Persian
    054 Psyduck
    055 Golduck
    058 Growlithe
    059 Arcanine
    060 Poliwag
    061 Poliwhirl
    062 Poliwrath
    063 Abra
    064 Kadabra
    065 Alakazam
    069 Bellsprout
    070 Weepinbell
    072 Tentacool
    073 Tentacruel
    077 Ponyta
    078 Rapidash
    079 Slowpoke
    080 Slowbro
    081 Magnemite
    082 Magneton
    083 Farfetch'd
    084 Doduo
    085 Dodrio
    086 Seel
    087 Dewgong
    090 Shellder
    091 Cloyster
    092 Gastly
    093 Haunter
    097 Hypno
    098 Krabby
    099 Kingler
    106 Hitmonlee
    107 Hitmonchan
    111 Rhyhorn
    113 Chansey
    114 Tangela
    116 Horsea
    117 Seadra
    118 Goldeen
    119 Seaking
    121 Starmie
    122 Mr.Mime
    123 Scyther
    124 Jynx
    125 Electabuzz
    127 Pinsir
    129 Magikarp
    130 Gyarados
    131 Lapras
    132 Ditto
    133 Eevee
    134 Vaporeon
    135 Jolteon
    136 Flareon
    137 Porygon
    138 Omanyte
    139 Omastar
    140 Kabuto
    141 Kabutops
    142 Aerodactyl
    143 Snorlax
    144 Articuno
    145 Zapdos
    146 Moltres
    147 Dratini
    148 Dragonair
    149 Dragonite
    150 Mewtwo
    152 Chikorita
    153 Bayleef
    154 Meganium
    155 Cyndaquil
    156 Quilava
    157 Typhlosion
    158 Totodile
    159 Croconaw
    160 Feraligatr
    162 Furret
    163 Hoothoot
    164 Noctowl
    168 Ariados
    169 Crobat
    170 Chinchou
    171 Lanturn
    175 Togepi
    177 Natu
    178 Xatu
    182 Bellossom
    183 Marill
    184 Azumarill
    185 Sudowoodo
    187 Hoppip
    188 Skiploom
    189 Jumpluff
    191 Sunkern
    192 Sunflora
    196 Espeon
    197 Umbreon
    198 Murkrow
    201 Unown
    202 Wobbuffet
    205 Forretress
    209 Snubbull
    210 Granbull
    211 Qwilfish
    212 Scizor
    213 Shuckle
    214 Heracross
    215 Sneasel
    218 Slugma
    219 Magcargo
    220 Swinub
    221 Piloswine
    222 Corsola
    223 Remoraid
    225 Delibird
    227 Skarmory
    228 Houndour
    229 Houndoom
    230 Kingdra
    231 Phanpy
    232 Donphan
    233 Porygon 2
    234 Stantler
    235 Smeargle
    238 Smoochum
    239 Elekid
    241 Miltank
    242 Blissey
    243 Raikou
    244 Entei
    248 Tyranitar
    250 Ho-oh
    251 Celebi
    252 Treecko
    253 Grovyle
    254 Sceptile
    256 Combusken
    257 Blaziken
    258 Mudkip
    259 Marshtomp
    261 Poochyena
    262 Mightyena
    263 Zigzagoon
    265 Wurmple
    266 Silcoon
    267 Beautifly
    268 Cascoon
    269 Dustox
    270 Lotad
    271 Lombre
    272 Ludicolo
    280 Ralts
    281 Kirlia
    282 Gardevoir
    285 Shroomish
    286 Breloom
    287 Slakoth
    288 Vigoroth
    289 Slaking
    291 Ninjask
    292 Shedinja
    299 Nosepass
    300 Skitty
    301 Delcatty
    304 Aron
    305 Lairon
    306 Aggron
    309 Electrike
    310 Manectric 
    311 Plusle
    312 Minun
    315 Roselia
    316 Gulpin
    317 Swalot
    319 Sharpedo
    322 Numel
    323 Camerupt
    324 Torkoal
    325 Spoink
    327 Spinda
    328 Trapinch
    329 Vibrava
    330 Flygon
    331 Cacnea
    332 Cacturne
    336 Seviper
    339 Barboach
    340 Whiscash
    341 Corphish
    342 Crawdaunt
    345 Lileep
    346 Cradily
    347 Anorith
    348 Armaldo
    349 Feebas
    350 Milotic
    352 Kecleon
    355 Duskull
    356 Dusclops
    358 Chimecho
    359 Absol
    360 Wynaut
    362 Glalie
    366 Clamperl
    367 Huntail
    370 Luvdisc
    371 Bagon
    374 Beldum
    375 Metang
    376 Metagross
    380 Latias
    383 Groudon
    384 Rayquaza
    385 Jirachi
    386 Deoxys-n
    386 Deoxys-a
    386 Deoxys-d
    386 Deoxys-s
    387 Turtwig 
    388 Grotle
    389 Torterra 
    390 Chimchar 
    391 Monferno 
    392 Infernape
    393 Piplup
    394 Prinplup
    395 Empoleon 
    396 Starly 
    397 Staravia 
    398 Staraptor  
    399 Bidoof 
    400 Bibarel 
    401 Kricketot
    402 Kricketune 
    403 Shinx
    404 Luxio 
    405 Luxray
    406 Budew
    407 Roserade
    409 Rampardos 
    410 Shieldon
    411 Bastiodon 
    413 Wormadam-grass
    414 Mothim 
    415 Combee 
    417 Pachirisu 
    418 Buizel 
    419 Floatzel 
    420 Cherubi 
    421 Cherrim 
    422 Shellos 
    423 Gastrodon 
    424 Ambipom 
    425 Drifloon 
    426 Drifblim
    427 Buneary 
    428 Lopunny 
    430 Honchkrow 
    431 Glameow 
    432 Purugly 
    433 Chingling 
    434 Stunky 
    435 Skuntank 
    436 Bronzor 
    437 Bronzong 
    438 Bonsly 
    439 Mime Jr. 
    440 Happiny 
    441 Chatot 
    442 Spiritomb 
    443 Gible 
    444 Gabite 
    445 Garchomp 
    446 Munchlax 
    448 Lucario 
    449 Hippopotas 
    450 Hippowdon 
    451 Skorupi
    452 Drapion 
    453 Croagunk 
    454 Toxicroak 
    455 Carnivine 
    456 Finneon 
    457 Lumineon 
    458 Mantyke 
    459 Snover 
    460 Abomasnow 
    461 Weavile 
    462 Magnezone 
    464 Rhyperior 
    465 Tangrowth 
    466 Electivire 
    470 Leafeon 
    471 Glaceon 
    473 Mamoswine 
    474 Porygon-Z 
    475 Gallade 
    476 Probopass 
    477 Dusknoir 
    479 Rotom
    479 Rotom (heat forme)
    479 Rotom (cut forme)
    479 Rotom (wash forme)
    479 Rotom (spin forme)
    479 Rotom (frost forme)
    480 Uxie 
    481 Mesprit 
    482 Azelf 
    483 Dialga 
    484 Palkia 
    485 Heatran 
    486 Regigigas 
    487 Giratina 
    487 Giratina-o
    488 Cresselia 
    489 Phione 
    490 Manaphy 
    491 Darkrai 
    492 Shaymin-l
    493 Arceus
    
    Pokemon Checked that have errors:
    Code:
    004 Charmander: +Rage, +Howl, +Quick Attack
    005 Charmeleon: +Rage, +Howl, +Quick Attack
    006 Charizard: +Rage, +Howl, +Quick Attack
    021 Spearow: +Double-edge
    025 Pikachu: -Metronome, +Yawn
    026 Raichu: -Metronome, +Yawn
    031 Nidoqueen: +Fury Cutter
    034 Nidoking: +Fury Cutter, -Aerial Ace
    037 Vulpix: +Double-edge
    038 Ninetales: +Double-edge
    039 Jigglypuff: -Metronome
    040 Wigglytuff: -Metronome, -Iron Tail
    056 Mankey: +Metronome
    057 Primeape: +Metronome
    066 Machop: -Defense Curl
    067 Machoke: -Defense Curl
    068 Machamp: -Defense Curl
    071 Victreebel: +Body Slam
    074 Geodude: -Swords Dance
    075 Graveler: -Swords Dance
    076 Golem: +Mega Kick, -Swords Dance
    088 Grimer: -Double-edge
    089 Muk: -Double-edge
    094 Gengar; +Double-edge
    095 Onix: -Crunch, +Body Slam, -Swift
    096 Drowzee: +Body Slam
    100 Voltorb: -Double-edge, +Sucker Punch
    101 Electrode: -Double-edge
    102 Exeggcute: -Body Slam, -Calm Mind
    103 Exeggutor: -Body Slam, -Calm Mind
    104 Cubone: -Bullet Seed, -Metronome
    105 Marowak: -Bullet Seed, -Metronome
    108 Lickitung: -Metronome
    109 Koffing: -Rock Tomb
    110 Weezing: -Rock Tomb
    112 Rhydon: +Ice Punch
    115 Kangaskhan: -Calm Mind, -Defense Curl, -Light Screen
    120 Staryu: -Nightmare
    126 Magmar: -Rolling Kick
    128 Tauros: -Seismic Toss
    151 Mew: +Teleport (lol)
    161 Sentret: +Knock Off
    165 Ledyba: +Mega Punch
    166 Ledian: +Mega Punch
    167 Spinarak: +Bounce, -Safeguard
    172 Pichu: -Metronome
    173 Cleffa: -Growl, -Follow Me
    174 Igglybuff: -Metronome
    176 Togetic: +Sky Attack
    179 Mareep: -Dream Eater
    180 Flaaffy: -Dream Eater, +ThunderPunch
    181 Ampharos: -Dream Eater
    186 Politoed: -Bulk Up, -Rock Tomb
    190 Aipom: +Uproar
    193 Yanma: -Hyper Beam, -Light Screen, -Sludge Bomb
    194 Wooper: -Pound, +Defense Curl
    195 Quagsire: -Pound
    199 Slowking: +Power Gem
    203 Girafarig: -Snatch
    204 Pineco: -Rain Dance
    206 Dunsparce: -Light Screen
    207 Gligar: -Body Slam, +Dream Eater
    200 Misdreavus: -Body Slam, +Icy Wind
    208 Steelix: +Body Slam
    216 Teddiursa: +Body Slam
    217 Ursaring: +Body Slam
    224 Octillery: +Seismic Toss
    226 Mantine: -Sunny Day
    236 Tyrogue: +Body Slam, -Metronome
    237 Hitmontop: +Body Slam
    240 Magby: -Rolling Kick
    245 Suicune: -Solarbeam
    246 Larvitar: -Nightmare
    247 Pupitar: -Nightmare
    249 Lugia: -Swords Dance
    255 Torchic: -Brick Break, +Mega Kick, +Mega Punch, +Seismic Toss
    260 Swampert: +Hydro Cannon
    264 Linoone: +Defense Curl
    273 Seedot: +Selfdestruct
    274 Nuzleaf: +Selfdestruct, +Mega Kick
    275 Shiftry: +Selfdestruct
    276 Taillow: -Barrage
    277 Swellow: -Barrage
    278 Wingull: +Sky Attack
    279 Pelipper: +Sky Attack
    283 Surskit: -Safeguard
    284 Masquerain: -Safeguard
    290 Nincada: -Brick Break
    293 Whismur: +Body Slam, +Defense Curl, +Seismic Toss
    294 Loudred: +Body Slam, +Defense Curl, +Seismic Toss
    295 Exploud: +Body Slam, +Defense Curl, +Seismic Toss
    296 Makuhita: +Body Slam, -Shadow Ball
    297 Hariyama: +Metronome, -Shadow Ball
    298 Azurill: -Amnesia, -Belly Drum, -Future Sight, -Light Screen, -Perish Song, -Supersonic
    302 Sableye: -Rock Slide
    303 Mawile: -Blizzard, -Snatch
    307 Meditite: -Thunder Wave
    308 Medicham: -Thunder Wave
    313 Volbeat: +Growl
    314 Illumise: +Growl
    318 Carvanha: +Bounce
    320 Wailmer: +Selfdestruct, -Swift
    321 Wailord: -Swift
    326 Grumpig: -Metronome
    333 Swablu: -Barrage
    334 Altaria: -Barrage
    335 Zangoose: -Dream Eater
    337 Lunatone: -Leer, -Seismic Toss
    338 Solrock: -Leer, -Seismic Toss
    343 Baltoy: -Body Slam
    344 Claydol: -Body Slam
    351 Castform: +Defense Curl
    353 Shuppet: -Lick
    354 Banette: -Lick
    357 Tropius: -Thief
    361 Snorunt: -Selfdestruct
    363 Spheal: -Pound
    364 Sealeo: -Pound
    365 Walrein: -Pound
    368 Gorebyss: -Rock Tomb
    369 Relicanth: -Sunny Day
    372 Shellgon: +Defense Curl
    373 Salamence: +Defense Curl
    377 Regirock: -Metronome
    378 Regice: -Fire Punch, -Metronome
    379 Registeel: -Fire Punch, -Hail, -Metronome, +Selfdestruct
    381 Latios: +Psybeam
    382 Kyogre: +Defense Curl
    408 Cranidos: +Fire Punch, +ThunderPunch
    412 Burmy: +Bug Bite
    413 Wormadam-s: -Giga Drain, +Rock Tomb
    413 Wormadam-t: -Earthquake
    416 Vespiquen: +Bug Bite
    429 Mismagius: -Body Slam
    447 Riolu: +Aura Sphere
    463 Lickilicky: -Metronome
    467 Magmortar: -Rolling Kick
    468 Togekiss: -Icy Wind
    469 Yanmega: -Light Screen, -Sludge Bomb, +Snore
    472 Gliscor: -Body Slam, +Dream Eater
    478 Froslass: +Sing, +Mimic, +Body Slam, +Double-Edge
    492 Shaymin-s: +Ominous Wind
    
    Other Notes: Razor Wind should be normal Type, not flying.

    DARKIEDIT: btw I approved this.
  2. RBG

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    Just checked Togekiss, it had every move it was supposed to, but also had Icy Wind, so it was added to pokemon with extra moves.

    Can anyone think of an efficient way to check? What I did was go through the moves on shoddy once to make sure there were no extra moves, and then the ones on serebii to make sure it had all the moves. Is their a faster/better way?
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    Just checked Mew *many moves >.>*. What I did is to first, check if there're any moves from Serebii's 3rd and 4th gen Dex that are not listed on Shoddy, the only one I found was Teleport (besides Fling, Recycle and NG as, like you said are not programmed yet). Then, I checked the move list on Shoddy for every none-level up/TM move (while reading through those just in case) to see if there are any moves that are added by error (haven't found any). Just a side note, I found out that XD-tutored moves are listed as "level up" moves for Mew for some reason.
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    I have just checked Meganium it is fine (Natural Gift isn't implemented.)

    As for checking, the way I have been doing it is going through the Serebii pages writing down every move that it learns, I then go through shoddy and check them off the list. If one is not written down when I come to check it off, then the move has been incorrectly added, if I end up with some not checked off (as I did here although it wasn't important) then the move is not useable when it should be.
  5. SMZ

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    Checked Riolu *no moves are wrong*, it only needs Aura Sphere (Pokemon Ranger) to be added.
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    @Komodo, just did a quick check to see whether Dusknoir had T-bolt on Shoddy or not, and it does not.
    EDIT: I didn't double-post...>Komodo deleted his/her post :\.
    EDIT2: Just a note about Goldfan strategy, it's easier to just Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C and Ctrl+P instead of writing all moves from Serebii.
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    Emerald Tutor move for Castform "Defense Curl" is not implemented, when it should be.

    Apart from that, Castform is fine.

    I see what you mean Metal Force but I dislike all of the extra stuff you get with that. Also if I write it down I don't get a whole load of repearted move. If you use the checking off one by one process, writing a move down twice is a pain to deal with, as you have to check which ones you have written down twice etc...
  8. SMZ

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    Checked Feebas and it's fine.
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    Lugia has Swords Dance when it should not

    also, metal force, what about dusknoir? Is it ok?
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    Didn't check Dusknoir, I only did a quick check for T-bolt on Shoddy, since Komodo claimed (and deleted his/her post) that it had it on Shoddy, but I'll gladly go fully-check Dusknoir (will post or edit this post when done).
  11. RBG

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    Also, some other Pokemon I know of that have mistakes that haven't been checked yet (I'm not adding them to the list until they are checked)

    Rhydon: +Ice Punch
    Golem: -Swords Dance
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    Finished checking Dusknoir and it's fine.
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    eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood
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    Don't forget to check the XD only tutors (Selfdestruct, Nightmare, Sky Attack) as they are not listed on Serebii. Bulbagarden has them here, here and here.

    hmm.. Shoddy shows the wrong message for Sky Attack according to Bulbapedia..
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    Anyway, for Golem: Swords Dance needs to be removed (like you said) and Mega Kick needs to be added, other than that it's fine.


    EDIT: Sorry I saw Featherdance on Lugia in 3rd gen and assumed all XD-moves are listed (the moves ETE listed don't show).
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    Actually, Eric is right, it only shows 3rd gen moves from XD that are from purifying. It fails to show move tutors from XD
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    Balbasaur does not have Frenzy Plant when it should. Other than that it is fine.
    Also, I guess it might be better for people to 'reserve' pokemon they are doing so that two people don't accidentally do the same pokemon together.
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    Yeah, I realized that (edited my post). Sorry about that.
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    From FRLG (doesn't get it from D/P).
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    I thought the FRLG tutor only tauhg it to the final forms?
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    eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood
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    Wailmer gets Swift, but it can't (according to Psypokes/Serebii) and should get Selfdestruct but does not.
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    I'm guessing this is only for D/P. FRLG IIRC depends on happiness (doesn't rely on evolved form), I'm not sure about that, but Frenzy Plant IS listed in Bulba's 3rd gen Pokedex as a tutor move from the cabin thing.
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    Steelix learns Crunch, but Onix does not. However, on Shoddy, it is able to learn it.
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    Hmmmm, if someone could check that it would be good, because i haven't seen anywhere else claiming that Bulbasaur could learn Frenzy Plant

    SDS: Did you fuly check both onix and steelix?
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