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General Kenobi
So yeah, here are my list of Pokemon that I'm supposed to tell you guys what to do, ha:
Azumarill
- Hasn't really changed much at all. Probably an SCMS edit of the new Pokemon (such as revenging Thundurus-T) should suffice.
- OU worthy? I think yes.
- Worth a revamp? No.
Cloyster
- This thing hasn't changed much either, although it's not a bad Landorus-T check. Could add that to his analysis, I guess.
- Look into an "Offensive Rapid Spin" set. +2 LO Hidden Power Grass from Modest Cloyster actually OHKOs standard Jellicent after SR and like 5% prior damage, which sounds pretty cool. While yes, I know a special Shell Smash set is probably as ass as it sounds, this set would be specifically dedicated to killing Spin-blockers and then spinning! Something like Shell Smash / Surf / Hidden Power Grass / Rapid Spin would do.
- OU worthy? It's OU, of course it needs an OU analysis.
- Worth a revamp? Doubt it. If the extra set goes up, it'll be find just getting the extra set without the revamp.
Deoxys-D
- I don't like the look of that Suicide Lead set. This will be retest, but I have no idea why are running so much offense on Deoxys-D, plus ridiculous crap like Fire Gem HP Fire. Please tell me that is as ridiculous as it sounds. I'm leaning towards removing it.
- Eh, I'm still not liking it at all, but I guess Modest and Life Orb is a decent compromise.
- Better EV spread is needed for the Toxic Staller, which needs significant speed investment to take on some threats.
- OU worthy? Of course.
- Revamp? Yes.
Escavalier
- Don't like this. Why are we even using this when we have Scizor (and soon, Genesect) running around?
- OU worthy? No, not worth it.
- Revamp? No.
Gengar
- Again, this hasn't changed much at all. SCMS update with mentions to the new Pokemon is probably enough, IMO.
- Get that Scarf set up, talk to TrollFreak about it.
- OU worthy? Yes.
- Revamp? No.
Hydreigon
- Lots of new move tutor moves. Superpower and Roost are the biggest ones. Pretty much all the sets that have Life Orb on them need Roost slashed, and every set apart from the Choice sets need to slash Superpower as well, IMO.
- OU worthy? Yes.
- Revamp? Yes.
Latias
- I love you for giving me this SDS.
- So yeah, since I'm already doing this, this shouldn't be much of a biggie. I'm going to do be doing pretty much what I put in the reservations thread below.
- In addition to Keldeo, I'd also put stuff like Thundurus-T counter and all that stuff as well.
- Revamp? Hell yes.
Medicham
- Haven't changed much either, but I do think Non-Choice should be retested. The Scarf set looks fine, but if Non-Choice isn't pulling its weight, it'll be removed. Okay, I'm keeping it.
- OU worthy? Yep.
- Revamp? No.
Politoed
- With most of the new threats being rain based, I'm pretty sure to say that Politoed needs a revamp to reflect this.
- Test a RestTalk set just because it's Politoed and you want him to stick around, but it's unlikely to be good.
- jc104: Play up Scarf.
- Have a look into a bulky Specs spread.
- NOTE: I want a very clear warning on the bulky set about using Perish Song when there is clearly a Dugtrio or Wobbuffet on the opposing team. The number of weather wars I have won simply because idiots just spam Perish Song, only to be met with Wobbuffet and fall into the grave that they dug themselves is ridiculous.
- OU worthy? Why am I even asking this?
- Revamp? Yes.
Salamence
- DD + Outrage + Moxie blah blah blah, I personally don't think it's a big deal, but I guess the DD set could be rewritten to reflect this.
- Scarf set become standard. I personally think it's the best set.
- +ve Speed natures to be the first slash on all sets not named Classic MixMence and Defensive.
- Look into a fast spread (252 HP / 80 Def / 176 Spe Timid) on Defensive Salamence to outspeed Lucario.
- I'm not digging the Moxie Lure set. I'm sorry AccidentalGreed, but I want a good explanation on why this is significantly different to the two mixed sets.
- OU worthy? Yes.
- Revamp? Yes.
Slowbro
- Mention Keldeo in there. While Slowbro is not a very good counter to Keldeo, it can still take a hit and take a crap on it with Psyshock if that means anything.
- Trick on Specs set is now possible with Regenerator.
- A few mentions of the new Pokemon is probably enough.
- Pocket: Remove CM
- OU worthy? Yes.
- Revamp? Probably not.
Tentacruel
- Acupressure Tentacruel gogogo
- Mention it being able to check Keldeos that aren't SubCM (Needs Toxic).
- Giga Drain is now a good option on the offensive set.
- Please read through to remove anything as dumb as "Cobalion counters Tentacruel". I don't want to have to do this kind of thing, guys!
- Checks and Counters need to be fixed.
- OU worthy? Yes.
- Revamp? Yes, it seems outdated.
Victini
- Hasn't changed much, although it did add Fire Punch and Trick to its repertoire, which could be used on Choice sets.
- My God, get rid of Zen Headbutt. It does nothing that V-Create and the other attacks can't.
- Remove Special Attacker and Support. I personally like the special set because of how cool Searing Shot is, but there's no denying it's just completely outclassed by all its other sets.
- OU worthy? Yes.
- Revamp? A small one would probably suffice.
Azumarill
- Hasn't really changed much at all. Probably an SCMS edit of the new Pokemon (such as revenging Thundurus-T) should suffice.
- OU worthy? I think yes.
- Worth a revamp? No.
Cloyster
- This thing hasn't changed much either, although it's not a bad Landorus-T check. Could add that to his analysis, I guess.
- Look into an "Offensive Rapid Spin" set. +2 LO Hidden Power Grass from Modest Cloyster actually OHKOs standard Jellicent after SR and like 5% prior damage, which sounds pretty cool. While yes, I know a special Shell Smash set is probably as ass as it sounds, this set would be specifically dedicated to killing Spin-blockers and then spinning! Something like Shell Smash / Surf / Hidden Power Grass / Rapid Spin would do.
- OU worthy? It's OU, of course it needs an OU analysis.
- Worth a revamp? Doubt it. If the extra set goes up, it'll be find just getting the extra set without the revamp.
Deoxys-D
- Eh, I'm still not liking it at all, but I guess Modest and Life Orb is a decent compromise.
- Better EV spread is needed for the Toxic Staller, which needs significant speed investment to take on some threats.
- OU worthy? Of course.
- Revamp? Yes.
Escavalier
- Don't like this. Why are we even using this when we have Scizor (and soon, Genesect) running around?
- OU worthy? No, not worth it.
- Revamp? No.
Gengar
- Again, this hasn't changed much at all. SCMS update with mentions to the new Pokemon is probably enough, IMO.
- Get that Scarf set up, talk to TrollFreak about it.
- OU worthy? Yes.
- Revamp? No.
Hydreigon
- Lots of new move tutor moves. Superpower and Roost are the biggest ones. Pretty much all the sets that have Life Orb on them need Roost slashed, and every set apart from the Choice sets need to slash Superpower as well, IMO.
- OU worthy? Yes.
- Revamp? Yes.
Latias
- I love you for giving me this SDS.
- So yeah, since I'm already doing this, this shouldn't be much of a biggie. I'm going to do be doing pretty much what I put in the reservations thread below.
- In addition to Keldeo, I'd also put stuff like Thundurus-T counter and all that stuff as well.
- OU worthy? Of course.Latias:
- I'm going to do this one, but just saying what I'm going to do:
- Standard CM set is going to be more offensive - Have a more offensive spread with Psyshock and Surf in the last slot. Latias is bulky enough without that much investment, and the lack of power (unable to OHKO Dragonite with Dragon Pulse after SR) sucks balls.
- Conversely, the defensive Calm Mind set will have the more defensive options on it, like Sub, Roar, Reflect, and all those kind of moves
- Merge LO Tank and Specs
- Update to reflect that Latias is probably the best Keldeo counter ever - ie You're going to be seeing Psyshock everywhere
- Revamp? Hell yes.
Medicham
- OU worthy? Yep.
- Revamp? No.
Politoed
- With most of the new threats being rain based, I'm pretty sure to say that Politoed needs a revamp to reflect this.
- Test a RestTalk set just because it's Politoed and you want him to stick around, but it's unlikely to be good.
- jc104: Play up Scarf.
- Have a look into a bulky Specs spread.
- NOTE: I want a very clear warning on the bulky set about using Perish Song when there is clearly a Dugtrio or Wobbuffet on the opposing team. The number of weather wars I have won simply because idiots just spam Perish Song, only to be met with Wobbuffet and fall into the grave that they dug themselves is ridiculous.
- OU worthy? Why am I even asking this?
- Revamp? Yes.
Salamence
- DD + Outrage + Moxie blah blah blah, I personally don't think it's a big deal, but I guess the DD set could be rewritten to reflect this.
- Scarf set become standard. I personally think it's the best set.
- +ve Speed natures to be the first slash on all sets not named Classic MixMence and Defensive.
- Look into a fast spread (252 HP / 80 Def / 176 Spe Timid) on Defensive Salamence to outspeed Lucario.
- I'm not digging the Moxie Lure set. I'm sorry AccidentalGreed, but I want a good explanation on why this is significantly different to the two mixed sets.
- OU worthy? Yes.
- Revamp? Yes.
Slowbro
- Mention Keldeo in there. While Slowbro is not a very good counter to Keldeo, it can still take a hit and take a crap on it with Psyshock if that means anything.
- Trick on Specs set is now possible with Regenerator.
- A few mentions of the new Pokemon is probably enough.
- Pocket: Remove CM
- OU worthy? Yes.
- Revamp? Probably not.
Tentacruel
- Mention it being able to check Keldeos that aren't SubCM (Needs Toxic).
- Giga Drain is now a good option on the offensive set.
- Please read through to remove anything as dumb as "Cobalion counters Tentacruel". I don't want to have to do this kind of thing, guys!
- Checks and Counters need to be fixed.
- OU worthy? Yes.
- Revamp? Yes, it seems outdated.
Victini
- Hasn't changed much, although it did add Fire Punch and Trick to its repertoire, which could be used on Choice sets.
- My God, get rid of Zen Headbutt. It does nothing that V-Create and the other attacks can't.
- Remove Special Attacker and Support. I personally like the special set because of how cool Searing Shot is, but there's no denying it's just completely outclassed by all its other sets.
- OU worthy? Yes.
- Revamp? A small one would probably suffice.