Shroomish (Eviolite)

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  1. Elevator Music

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    I've been using this set for a few days, I find it pretty effective because Spore is boss and Shroomish is sooooo bulky. I don't really know what to call it but hey.

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    [SET]
    name: Eviolite
    move 1: Spore
    move 2: Synthesis
    move 3: Giga Drain
    move 4: Toxic / Stun Spore
    item: Eviolite
    ability: Poison Heal
    nature: Bold
    evs:
    196 HP / 196 Def / 36 SpA / 36 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>While the Grass-type is not normally renowned for its defensive capabilities, Shroomish can use it in tandem with its great defensive stats to check a variety of powerful Pokemon in the tier, most notably Drilbur, Chinchou, and Staryu. When holding Eviolite, Shroomish is not OHKOed by a +2 X-Scissor from Adamant Eviolite Drilbur, nor 2HKOed by the same Drilbur's +2 Rock Slide (a much more common attack). In return, it can cripple Drilbur with Spore or Stun Spore, or 2HKO it with Giga Drain. Even without a lot of investment in Special Defense, Shroomish can easily come in and tank any of Chinchou and Staryu's common attacks, only being 2HKOed by the increasingly rare Ice Beam. Shroomish can similarly come in and threaten all the other Water-type Pokemon in the tier as well. With Synthesis and Giga Drain Shroomish can keep itself healthy over the course of the match, allowing it to come in and do its job multiple times if needed. The choice between Toxic and Stun Spore is one of personal preference; Toxic allows Shroomish to defeat bulkier Pokemon such as Lileep who would otherwise wall it, while Stun Spore is very effective against more offensive Pokemon such as Mienfoo and Gastly. It also makes Shroomish a more complete check to Drilbur, as if you have already slept an opposing Pokemon you can still permanently cripple Drilbur with paralysis.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Outside of the above options, Shroomish has a few more tricks up its sleeve. Leech Seed can be run as another way of providing Shroomish with recovery while wearing down the opposition, and Bullet Seed can be used with an Impish nature, hitting slightly harder than Giga Drain on average at the cost of healing from Giga Drain. Hidden Power Fire can also be used, as it gives Shroomish very good coverage and allows it to hit other Grass-types who may switch in, such as Snover and Ferroseed.</p>

    <p>Shroomish, like all support Pokemon, really appreciates entry hazards. Dwebble can easily set up either Stealth Rock or Spikes, while Shroomish can come in and threaten Staryu every time it tries to spin them away. Shelmet, despite sharing a weakness to Fire- and Flying-type attacks, also makes a good teammate, as it can counter any Scraggy that may switch in, and can also set up Spikes. Bulky Omanyte and Tirtouga are also capable of setting up Stealth Rock (and in Omanyte's case, Spikes as well), and resist Fire- and Flying-type attacks to boot. Other Pokemon who can wall Fire-types also work well, so using a Fire-type of your own such as Ponyta or Houndour works well. Another good teammate for Shroomish is Natu, who can wall defensive Pokemon that would otherwise try to set up entry hazards on Shroomish, such as Bronzor, Ferroseed, and Lileep. Finally, Pokemon that can help deal with Gastly are also good teammates, as Gastly can come in very easily and set up a Substitute. Stunky works very well in this regard, as does Munchlax.</p>
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    needs moar HP Fire in AC for Ferroseed and maybe Toxic gets a first slash over Stun Spore?

    This set looks incredible; I can't wait to try it. Unless I find something wrong with this,

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    [SET]
    name: Eviolite
    move 1: Spore
    move 2: Synthesis
    move 3: Giga Drain
    move 4: Toxic / Stun Spore
    item: Eviolite
    ability: Poison Heal
    nature: Bold
    evs: 196 HP / 196 Def / 36 SpA / 36 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>While the Grass-type typing is not normally renowned for its defensive capabilities, Shroomish can use it in tandem with its great defensive stats to check a variety of powerful Pokemon in the tier, most notably Drilbur, Chinchou, and Staryu. When holding Eviolite, Shroomish is not even OHKOed by a +2 X-Scissor from Adamant Eviolite Drilbur, and not even nor 2HKOed by the same Drilbur's +2 Rock Slide (a much more common attack). In return, it can cripple Drilbur with Spore or Stun Spore, or 2HKO it with Giga Drain. Even without a lot of investment in Special Defense, Shroomish can easily come in and tank any of Chinchou and Staryu's common attacks, only being 2HKOed by the increasingly rarer Ice Beam. Shroomish can similarly come in and threaten all the other Water-type Pokemon in the tier as well. With Synthesis and Giga Drain, Shroomish can keep itself healthy over the course of the match, allowing it to come in and do its job multiple times if needed. The choice between Toxic and Stun Spore is one of personal preference; Toxic allows Shroomish to wall and defeat bulkier Pokemon such as Lileep who would otherwise wall it, while Stun Spore is very effective against more offensive Pokemon such as Mienfoo and Gastly. It also makes Shroomish a more complete check to Drilbur, as if you have already slept an opposing Pokemon you can still permanently cripple Drilbur with paralysis.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Outside of the above options, Shroomish has a few more tricks up its sleeve as well. Leech Seed can be run as another way of providing Shroomish with recovery while wearing down the opposition, and Bullet Seed can be used with an Impish nature, hitting slightly harder than Giga Drain on average at the cost of the extra healing from Giga Drain. Hidden Power Fire can also be used, as it gives Shroomish very good coverage and allows it to hit other Grass-types who may switch in, such as Snover and Ferroseed.</p>

    <p>Shroomish, like all annoying support Grass-types, really appreciates entry hazards. Dwebble can easily set up either Stealth Rocks or Spikes, while Shroomish can come in and threaten the opposition Staryu every time Staryu it tries to spin them away. Shelmet, despite sharing a weakness to Fire- and Flying-type attacks, also makes a good teammate, as it can counter any Scraggy that may switch in, and can also set up Spikes. Bulky Omanyte and Tirtouga are also capable of setting up Stealth Rock (and in Omanyte's case, Spikes as well), and resist Fire- and Flying-type attacks to boot. Other Pokemon who can wall Fire-types also work well, so using a Fire-type of your own such as Ponyta or Houndour works well. Another good teammate for Shroomish is Natu, who can wall defensive Pokemon that would otherwise try to set up entry hazards on Shroomish, such as Bronzor, Ferroseed, and Lileep. Finally, Pokemon that can help deal with Gastly are also good teammates, as Gastly can come in very easily and set up a Substitute. Stunky works very well in this regard, as does Munchlax.</p>


    Good job!
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    implemented... lol
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    [SET]
    name: Eviolite
    move 1: Spore
    move 2: Synthesis
    move 3: Giga Drain
    move 4: Toxic / Stun Spore
    item: Eviolite
    ability: Poison Heal
    nature: Bold
    evs:
    196 HP / 196 Def / 36 SpA / 36 SpD

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>While the Grass-type is not normally renowned for its defensive capabilities, Shroomish can use it in tandem with its great defensive stats to check a variety of powerful Pokemon in the tier, most notably Drilbur, Chinchou, and Staryu. When holding Eviolite, Shroomish is not OHKOed by a +2 X-Scissor from Adamant Eviolite Drilbur, nor 2HKOed by the same Drilbur's +2 Rock Slide (a much more common attack). In return, it can cripple Drilbur with Spore or Stun Spore, or 2HKO it with Giga Drain. Even without a lot of investment in Special Defense, Shroomish can easily come in and tank any of Chinchou and Staryu's common attacks, only being 2HKOed by the increasingly rare Ice Beam. Shroomish can similarly come in and threaten all the other Water-type Pokemon in the tier as well. With Synthesis and Giga Drain Shroomish can keep itself healthy over the course of the match, allowing it to come in and do its job multiple times if needed. The choice between Toxic and Stun Spore is one of personal preference; Toxic allows Shroomish to defeat bulkier Pokemon such as Lileep who would otherwise wall it, while Stun Spore is very effective against more offensive Pokemon such as Mienfoo and Gastly. It also makes Shroomish a more complete check to Drilbur, as if you have already slept an opposing Pokemon you can still permanently cripple Drilbur with paralysis.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>Outside of the above options, Shroomish has a few more tricks up its sleeve as well. Leech Seed can be run as another way of providing Shroomish with recovery while wearing down the opposition, and Bullet Seed can be used with an Impish nature, hitting slightly harder than Giga Drain on average at the cost of healing from Giga Drain. Hidden Power Fire can also be used, as it gives Shroomish very good coverage and allows it to hit other Grass-types who may switch in, such as Snover and Ferroseed.</p>

    <p>Shroomish, like all support Pokemon, really appreciates entry hazards. Dwebble can easily set up either Stealth Rock or Spikes, while Shroomish can come in and threaten Staryu every time it tries to spin them away. Shelmet, despite sharing a weakness to Fire- and Flying-type attacks, also makes a good teammate, as it can counter any Scraggy that may switch in, and can also set up Spikes. Bulky Omanyte and Tirtouga are also capable of setting up Stealth Rock (and in Omanyte's case, Spikes as well), and resist Fire- and Flying-type attacks to boot. Other Pokemon who can wall Fire-types also work well, so using a Fire-type of your own such as Ponyta or Houndour works well. Another good teammate for Shroomish is Natu, who can wall defensive Pokemon that would otherwise try to set up entry hazards on Shroomish, such as Bronzor, Ferroseed, and Lileep. Finally, Pokemon that can help deal with Gastly are also good teammates, as Gastly can come in very easily and set up a Substitute. Stunky works very well in this regard, as does Munchlax.</p>


    Lol i found one thing
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    k uploading this bad boy, putting it as the first set too because i can

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