Thoughts on calm nature?
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Whats the consensus on Life Orb vs Soul Dew on Latios if you're only using Dragon and Psychic moves?
For example, if a CM Latios set of Draco Meteor, Psyshock, Roost, Calm Mind is used, what's the better choice?
For example, if a CM Latios set of Draco Meteor, Psyshock, Roost, Calm Mind is used, what's the better choice?
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Banned deucer.
For your example, yes Soul Dew is better since it still powers up its STAB but doesn't have LO recoil. For sets that have coverage options like Shadow Ball or HP Fire, LO is better. So basically if you're not running any coverage , Soul Dew is the way to go for enhanced longevity.
Regarding Pheromosa: While I understand that Naive is preferred over Hasty "because Priority Moves are Physical", but does Naive actually stop her from getting KO'd by them, or is it just a min-maxers choice?
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Yes
For example, Shadow Sneak from Aegislash is 2HKO 100% of the time on Hasty, while with Naive, is only 64%
0 Atk Aegislash-Blade Shadow Sneak vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Pheromosa: 147-174 (51.9 - 61.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 Atk Aegislash-Blade Shadow Sneak vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Pheromosa: 132-156 (46.6 - 55.1%) -- 64.5% chance to 2HKO
Being Naive over Hasty is nice when facing Genesect, which gives it an SpAtk raise instead of an Attack raise, and several teams preffer facin a +1 SpAtk Genesect rather than an +1 Atk one
Of course, you shouldn't stay in against Aegislash anyways. It was just an example that having a - nature and not having one is pretty significant
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What were the changes to status this gen?
Paralisis now reduces your speed to 50%, instead of to a 25%
Burn damage does only 1/16 instead of 1/8
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Why do I get an invalid event error with zygarde 10% in gen7 OU? It matches my in game zygarde.
Would it be alright if I make a thread for discussing the Terrain/Weather mechanics (either here or on the SuMo board at the Orange Islands)?
Thanks for you fast answer :)
Heatran and Zard aren't yet available on 7G but I'll try to remember it for later on ;)
Why is it not good against rain team?
I don't think Toxapex is a viable option since burn has been nerfed and he has low SpA, and Celesteela may be running EQ.
I liked Magnezone for magnepiege and Tbolt, it sounded nice
3.- I think basestats, ability, typing and moveset can define a mon viability. In fact I'd like to learn about the tiers (not only speed) so a database may be useful :)
2.- Most Celesteela run Flamethrower so I would not consider Aegi.
Heatran and Zard aren't yet available on 7G but I'll try to remember it for later on ;)
Why is it not good against rain team?
I don't think Toxapex is a viable option since burn has been nerfed and he has low SpA, and Celesteela may be running EQ.
I liked Magnezone for magnepiege and Tbolt, it sounded nice
3.- I think basestats, ability, typing and moveset can define a mon viability. In fact I'd like to learn about the tiers (not only speed) so a database may be useful :)
Apparently multiple tests have been done with different results (some people finding the chance is still 50%, others finding it appears to be 33%). Barring extraordinary luck, some of the people doing tests have been screwing something up so they're not measuring the correct probability. It is still not decisively clear what the correct answer is.
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A good bunch of rain staple Pokémon 2HKO Celeestela.
Kingdra for example, 2HKOes after rocks and a bit of chip damage a 252HP/252SpDef Celeestela (I don't know if is that even a set)
And of course electric Pokémon kinda destroys Celeestela too
And Celesteela often can't do a lot in return, other than Seed Bombing or Leech Seeding
Huh... I could have swear of reading it in the battle mechanics thread, my bad
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ffs man, smogon isn't letting me use my Ash-Greninja, what's it playing at...
I don't think this is the right place to ask for Pokemon with Pokerus. That seems a lot like a general trade request.
It was giving me problems too, I tried an IV spread of 20/31/20/31/20/31 and it worked
Is probably just a temporal bug
Try asking here
Okay I gonna change my question? I get the mechanical aspects of Environmental effects, (Weather and terrains) but My knowledge of the teambuilding aspect is too limited and useless for my plans. I want to know what the common weather/terrain setups are and if my other questions on the teambuilding side are better served in the general metagame thread?
With new threads being made for the gen 7 mons, are we allowed to make threads about how previously introduced mons will function in gen 7 OU? I think stuff like Latios, Aegislash, Mega Scizor, Genesect, Lando-I, Duggy, etc. deserve their own discussion threads since we are still figuring out what they can do in the current meta.
Edit: Porygon-Z has a thread, so why not the others? I assume we can post threads for these mons (so long as mods approve of course) so I'm surprised that no one has made threads for them. If we could make them that would be great.
Edit Morningstar Not sure if this is the answer you're looking for, but the most common archetypes I've seen on the ladder are rain offense and hail offense. Sand is still a thing but less common from what I've seen. Rain uses Pelipper as the rain setter and generally has the usual Kingdra, as well as Alolan Raichu and Tapu Koko. Hail always has Alolan Ninetales and Alolan Sandslash in my experiences. As for terrains, some teams are built around Tapu Koko's electric terrain (ie rain offense/electric spam) and Tapu Lele's psychic terrain (ie mons abuse the lack of priority/psychic spam). Tapu Bulu's grassy terrain and Tapu Fini's misty terrain are both solid, but teams are generally not built around their terrains. They can be, though, as fat balance/stall appreciates the effects of grassy/misty terrain.
Edit: Porygon-Z has a thread, so why not the others? I assume we can post threads for these mons (so long as mods approve of course) so I'm surprised that no one has made threads for them. If we could make them that would be great.
Edit Morningstar Not sure if this is the answer you're looking for, but the most common archetypes I've seen on the ladder are rain offense and hail offense. Sand is still a thing but less common from what I've seen. Rain uses Pelipper as the rain setter and generally has the usual Kingdra, as well as Alolan Raichu and Tapu Koko. Hail always has Alolan Ninetales and Alolan Sandslash in my experiences. As for terrains, some teams are built around Tapu Koko's electric terrain (ie rain offense/electric spam) and Tapu Lele's psychic terrain (ie mons abuse the lack of priority/psychic spam). Tapu Bulu's grassy terrain and Tapu Fini's misty terrain are both solid, but teams are generally not built around their terrains. They can be, though, as fat balance/stall appreciates the effects of grassy/misty terrain.
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I would aim for a Modest nature, Timid is probably decent too. We have yet to see this meta develop but Volcanion's primary role in ORAS was as a holepuncher. A weakness to Stealth Rock and middling speed stat make sure that defensive sets leave a lot to be desired, so I'd aim for specially offensive
Is it possible to still get the demo/ash greninja?
Yeah, you get it from completing the demo. I believe it'll be available permanently unless the demo gets discontinued for some reason (which seems unlikely for a long time given that the ORAS demo is still available).