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Sketchmons XY [Now Playable]
- Thread starter Monte Cristo
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Well, Shift Gear has potential. Sure, Flare Blitz hurts Darm, but Fire Punch is a tolerable alternative. Probably a set something like this:xJownage said:
Darmanitan @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shift Gear
- Flare Blitz / Fire Punch
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
At +1 Sheer Force boosted STAB hits really, really hard, +2 outspeeds most of the meta, and Earthquake and Rock Slide handle resists. Nothing switches in, though a couple of things can beat it one on one if it runs Fire Punch (Gliscor, Mega Venusaur, Intimidate Gyarados, some other stuff) and priority is a beating from Choice Band Talonflame or Azu.
And the scarf variant with Bolt Strike beats a lot of those on the switch.
xJownage
Even pendulums swing both ways
In the long run the scarf is probably better as a wallbreaker, meanwhile there being much better cleaners available in this metagame as of now. If you like darm that much tho...
Flame Charge tho
Flame Charge is a good option but not when it's less than half the power of Flare Blitz. Enemies that are cleanly OHKO'd by Flare Blitz can be barely 2HKO'd by Flame Charge (yes, even at +6), which is pretty fatal for an offensively-inclined Pokemon: you don't want to end up dying because you can't kill the opponent!
At least even with Flare Blitz you can destroy the opponent's Steel-type while dying, and with Overheat you can get a one-time nuke in beating shit like Skarmory after SR.
4 SpA Talonflame Overheat vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Skarmory: 294-348 (88 - 104.1%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
+6 252+ Atk Talonflame Flame Charge vs. 252 HP / 232+ Def Skarmory: 302-356 (90.4 - 106.5%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
Not to menction side effects and natures choice
point taken (though honestly, there're probably also other factors including overheat being non-contact... but whatever. also flare blitz is also a decent option, since most of the time you're going to be spamming acrobatics anyway)
You also can use Steel Wing over Return to hit Rock types as well, so you can have a set of Belly Drum|Acrobatics|Flare Blitz/Flame Charge|Steel Wing/Roost.
And Flare Blitz recoil isn't that bad when you're probably at 75% health and will only use it to dispatch a Steel or Electric type.
And Flare Blitz recoil isn't that bad when you're probably at 75% health and will only use it to dispatch a Steel or Electric type.
Just thought of something - Tornadus/Tornadus-T can now get Aeroblast which gives them a (semi) reliable STAB that's Special... look out lol
They already has Air Slash...Aeroblast is stronger, but I'd rather get something like Roost, Topsy-Tury, Scald (for rain teams), Quiver Dance or something for Tornadus since you only have one Sketch.
EDIT: Thundurus on the other hand, could make great use of Aeroblast. :)
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xJownage
Even pendulums swing both ways
/learn tornadus, baton pass
quiver pass leggoooo. anything with baton pass and good bulk can abuse this very viable strategy while a quick receiver could take advantage of great coverage and boosts to sweep opposing teams. I am interested to see how this plays out....
quiver pass leggoooo. anything with baton pass and good bulk can abuse this very viable strategy while a quick receiver could take advantage of great coverage and boosts to sweep opposing teams. I am interested to see how this plays out....
You only get one Sketch move, and Talon can't learn Belly Drum or Baton Pass naturally. Were you thinking of STABmons?
This one is so fun. Me and my frind got a match
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/customgame-150789067
Specs Porygon-Z is probably the hardest hitting 'mon out there
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/customgame-150789067
Specs Porygon-Z is probably the hardest hitting 'mon out there
xJownage
Even pendulums swing both ways
I sooo want to play this. More theorymonning, also cause can. I don't feel like making sets and descrips since its obvious what these pokes can do:
- Shift Gear Mega Garchomp can run mixed sweeping sets or just amazing sets in general.
- Shift Gear Mega Aggron could be a fun bulky sweeper too :)
- geomancy keldeo will make me scream.
- Quiver dance lando-i will too
- Nasty Plot / Taunt / Thunderbolt / Ice beam thundy, such beast.
- Shift Gear Bisharp
- V-create Mega Charizard X will wreck shit. Also, shift gear can really eliminate offensive teams lacking thundy.
- Shift gear conkeldurr, if you are really feeling it.
- Shift Gear Kyurem-Black, If you are REALLY feeling it
- Mega Manectric with better moves, such as ice beam, could improve its value as a pivot.
- Also tail glow mega manectric (it doesn't need more speed lel)
- Shift Gear Mega Medicham
- Bolt strike thundurus, because it needs it for flavor.
- Oblivion Wing Togekiss
- Belly drum priority mons in general, such as diggersby
- Belly drum hawlucha (as if it wasn't good before)
Why can't we make this active again?
- Shift Gear Mega Garchomp can run mixed sweeping sets or just amazing sets in general.
- Shift Gear Mega Aggron could be a fun bulky sweeper too :)
- geomancy keldeo will make me scream.
- Quiver dance lando-i will too
- Nasty Plot / Taunt / Thunderbolt / Ice beam thundy, such beast.
- Shift Gear Bisharp
- V-create Mega Charizard X will wreck shit. Also, shift gear can really eliminate offensive teams lacking thundy.
- Shift gear conkeldurr, if you are really feeling it.
- Shift Gear Kyurem-Black, If you are REALLY feeling it
- Mega Manectric with better moves, such as ice beam, could improve its value as a pivot.
- Also tail glow mega manectric (it doesn't need more speed lel)
- Shift Gear Mega Medicham
- Bolt strike thundurus, because it needs it for flavor.
- Oblivion Wing Togekiss
- Belly drum priority mons in general, such as diggersby
- Belly drum hawlucha (as if it wasn't good before)
Why can't we make this active again?
Actually I made a team in a meta with rock polish conk and it's amazing. I can only imagine how good it would be with SG(however the set also had diamond storm, so...)
I like the way you think. I've always thought Parting Shot would be a great move if it had better pokemon that could use it, because Pangoro is quite honestly the worst possible thing they could have given the move.
I used a set like this once. It's terrible and I highly recommend you do not try using it as it will be nothing but dead weight in 11/10 scenarios.
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"11/10 scenarios", it must be bad
tbh let's all just run like 3 trapping mons and then setup sweepers. Trap the phys walls and then smash to kill with shift gear everything
It's worse than i made it out to be. Knock off or any water type moves destroy it with no effort at all.
bumping because oras
sets:
tired, will expand on later
sets:
Clefable @ Choice Specs
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature
- Trick
- Light of Ruin
- Fire Blast
- Focus Blast
Lopunny-Mega @ Lopunnite
Ability: Limber
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Return
- High Jump Kick
- Baton Pass / Encore
Klinklang @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shift Gear
- Gear Grind
- Thousand Arrows
- Substitute
Altaria-Mega @ Altarianite
Ability: Cloud Nine
EVs: 88 HP / 252 SpA / 168 Spe
Modest Nature
- Boomburst
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Roost
Pidgeot-Mega @ Pidgeotite
Ability: Big Pecks
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hurricane
- Heat Wave
- Focus Blast
- U-turn
Staraptor @ Choice Band
Ability: Reckless
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- Close Combat
- Double-Edge
- Flare Blitz
Serperior @ Life Orb
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 56 Atk / 212 SpA / 240 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Close Combat
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Dragon Pulse
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature
- Trick
- Light of Ruin
- Fire Blast
- Focus Blast
Lopunny-Mega @ Lopunnite
Ability: Limber
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Return
- High Jump Kick
- Baton Pass / Encore
Klinklang @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shift Gear
- Gear Grind
- Thousand Arrows
- Substitute
Altaria-Mega @ Altarianite
Ability: Cloud Nine
EVs: 88 HP / 252 SpA / 168 Spe
Modest Nature
- Boomburst
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Roost
Pidgeot-Mega @ Pidgeotite
Ability: Big Pecks
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hurricane
- Heat Wave
- Focus Blast
- U-turn
Staraptor @ Choice Band
Ability: Reckless
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- Close Combat
- Double-Edge
- Flare Blitz
Serperior @ Life Orb
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 56 Atk / 212 SpA / 240 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Close Combat
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Dragon Pulse
tired, will expand on later
The owner of this was talking about how Clefable with Light of Ruin was outclassed by Boomburst Gard, so I assume they wouldn't say that if Light of Ruin was illegal.
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