Project USUM OU Victim of the Week [Week 49: Dragon Dance Gyarados]

[Natan]

Heatran as a counter

Heatran @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Taunt
- Toxic
- Lava Plume
- Stealth Rock

Any Tran set work, but this one is the best because it can recover with Lefties Scizor-Mega damage and can't even miss, very safe and double resist both of Scizor-Mega's Moves, Lava Plume is a very safe OHKO and u can use Scizor-Mega to get Rocks easily.

Calcs

0 SpA Heatran Lava Plume vs. 248 HP / 128 SpD Scizor-Mega: 384-456 (111.9 - 132.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 25-30 (6.4 - 7.7%) -- possibly the worst move ever
0 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 22-26 (5.6 - 6.7%) -- possibly the worst move ever
+2 0 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 43-51 (11.1 - 13.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever
+2 0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 51-60 (13.2 - 15.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever

 

[Kutscher]

Reserving lele

 

[Askov]

Toxapex as a counter

Toxapex @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 192 Def / 64 SpD
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Haze
- Recover
- Toxic Spikes

Toxapex can tank U-Turn/BPunch easily, even boosted ones, and sit in front of him taking attacks and setting TSpikes or fishing for a Scald burn.

Haze can stop Scizor from getting boosts on Toxapex, although even +2 Scizor won't do much to it.

calcs

0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 252 HP / 192+ Def Toxapex: 30-36 (9.8 - 11.8%) --
+2 0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 252 HP / 192+ Def Toxapex: 59-70 (19.4 - 23%) -- possible 6HKO after Black Sludge recovery
+2 0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 252 HP / 192+ Def Toxapex: 59-70 (19.4 - 23%) -- possible 6HKO after Black Sludge recovery

 

[Jucherz]

Marowak-Alola @ Thick Club
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Bone
- Fire Punch
- Bonemerang
- Will-O-Wisp

Alolan Marowak as a counter. It takes very little damage from both Mega Scizor's attacks and Fire Punch OHKOs back.

0 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Marowak-Alola: 42-51 (16 - 19.5%) -- possible 6HKO
0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Marowak-Alola: 25-29 (9.5 - 11.1%) -- possible 9HKO
+2 0 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Marowak-Alola: 84-100 (32.1 - 38.3%) -- 97.6% chance to 3HKO
+2 0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Marowak-Alola: 49-58 (18.7 - 22.2%) -- possible 5HKO
+4 0 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Marowak-Alola: 127-150 (48.6 - 57.4%) -- 94.9% chance to 2HKO
+4 0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Marowak-Alola: 74-87 (28.3 - 33.3%) -- 0% chance to 3HKO

252+ Atk Thick Club Marowak-Alola Fire Punch vs. 248 HP / 116+ Def Scizor-Mega: 484-576 (141.1 - 167.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[david0895]

Zapdos as a counter

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
- Discharge
- Roost
- Heat Wave
- Defog / Toxic

Probably one of the best Scizor counters, since it can:
- kill scizor
- heal it self
- fish a paralysis on the switch-in with Discharge
- remove hazards
- cripple the switch-in with Toxic

calcs

+2 0 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 248 HP / 244+ Def Zapdos: 74-87 (19.3 - 22.7%) -- possible 5HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

+2 0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 248 HP / 244+ Def Zapdos: 86-102 (22.4 - 26.6%) -- 97.2% chance to 4HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

0 SpA Zapdos Heat Wave vs. 248 HP / 128 SpD Scizor-Mega: 292-348 (85.1 - 101.4%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

 

[nameless90]

Check: Scarf/Specs Magneton

Magneton @ Choice Specs/Scarf
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power Fire

252 SpA Choice Specs Magneton Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 128 SpD Scizor-Mega: 328-388 (95.6 - 113.1%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Magneton Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 128 SpD Scizor-Mega: 220-260 (64.1 - 75.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Magneton: 56-66 (23.2 - 27.3%) -- 71.6% chance to 4HKO
+4 0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Magneton: 167-197 (69.2 - 81.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Similarly to its evolution, Magneton has a better Spe tier to use with +10 Spe, but less bulk.
Mega Scizor can only U-turn out after eating a supereffective hit.

 

[Martin]

Who uses SD Mega Scizor in 2017

Keldeo @ Choice Specs
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Secret Sword
- Hydro Pump
- Focus Blast / Hidden Power [Electric] / Icy Wind

Keldeo fears nothing if it can get out in front of Mega Scizor, taking pitiful damage from Bullet Punch and threatening it with Scald and its nasty burn rate. The reason why I have listed Specs as opposed to Scarf is just 'cause the Specs set can generally get more out of coming in to check Mega Scizor, using it to net a free nuke onto one of its teammates with its significantly higher comparative firepower. That said, Scarf also works here, as does any variant of Keld with Sub or CM (with CM+Normalium being able to singlehandedly shut down the common core of Mega Scizor+Toxapex if it features more physically-inclined Toxapex spreads).

Edit: also Specs Focus Blast Keldeo is the messiah

 

[Avant Heim]

Mega Charizard Y as a Counter

Charizard @ Charizardite Y
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fire Blast
- Solar Beam
- Focus Blast
- Roost

The main ideia is:Use Fire Blast and burn Mega Scizor alive
Jokes aside,Mega Scizor can do actully nothing to this guy.U-turn is a 4X resist and Bullet Punch does a pitfull amount of damage to Zard Y
ZardY always wins against Mega Scizor 1v1(even with rocks on zard's side)
Also,Focus Blast is almost a 3HKO

calcs

252 SpA Charizard Fire Blast vs. 248 HP / 128 SpD Scizor-Mega: 564-664 (164.4 - 193.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Charizard: 56-66 (18.8 - 22.2%) -- possible 5HKO
0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Charizard: 33-39 (11.1 - 13.1%) -- possible 8HKO
252 SpA Charizard Focus Blast vs. 248 HP / 128 SpD Scizor-Mega: 102-121 (29.7 - 35.2%) -- 20.8% chance to 3HKO

 

[Futatsuiwa of Sado]

Gyarados as a Counter

Gyarados @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Bounce
- Waterfall
- Taunt / Substitute / Earthquake

Gyarados is quite the underprepared for threat to many teams since it can begin a sweep so easily. Scizor is simply set up fodder for Gyarados, allowing you to get off a free Dragon Dance as your opponent is forced to switch to prevent Gyarados from getting further Dragon Dances. Ideally, if you've removed mons that this Gyarados can't deal with like Celesteela, their Gyarados "check" will be nuked by a +1 SSSS, allowing Gyarados to snowball from there due to Moxie. Taunt and Substitute are notable options here because Taunt prevents Scizor from Roosting, Defogging away hazards, or the rare SD that OP is using. Substitute is another option because none of Scizor's attacks actually break Gyarados' Substitute, with U-Turn only doing 23% on a high roll.

Calcs

0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Gyarados: 65-77 (19.6 - 23.2%) -- possible 5HKO
+2 0 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Gyarados: 111-131 (33.5 - 39.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

+1 252 Atk Gyarados Supersonic Skystrike (160 BP) vs. 248 HP / 116+ Def Scizor-Mega: 237-280 (69 - 81.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252 Atk Gyarados Waterfall vs. 248 HP / 116+ Def Scizor-Mega: 118-141 (34.4 - 41.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+2 252 Atk Gyarados Supersonic Skystrike (160 BP) vs. 248 HP / 116+ Def Scizor-Mega: 316-373 (92.1 - 108.7%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
+2 252 Atk Gyarados Waterfall vs. 248 HP / 116+ Def Scizor-Mega: 159-187 (46.3 - 54.5%) -- 59% chance to 2HKO
(Gyarados can get a lot of DD's up if Scizor decides to stay in on it for whatever reason.)

 

[Sunchipps]

reserving mantine

Mantine @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 SpD
Calm Nature
- Scald
- Roost
- Haze
- Air Slash

As Counter

Mantine is one of my favorite mons to use in SUMO. With the stat boost, it gain some popularity. With Haze, it just brings the attack boost down to 0. With Scald, it has a chance to burn it, weakening it. It can Roost Stall on Scizor and chip it with Air Slash.

Calc

0 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 240 Def Mantine: 46-54 (12.2 - 14.4%) -- possibly the worst move ever
0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 252 HP / 240 Def Mantine: 54-63 (14.4 - 16.8%) -- possible 9HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 0 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 240 Def Mantine: 92-108 (24.5 - 28.8%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 252 HP / 240 Def Mantine: 107-126 (28.6 - 33.6%) -- 98% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+4 0 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 240 Def Mantine: 138-162 (36.8 - 43.3%) -- 99.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+4 0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 252 HP / 240 Def Mantine: 161-189 (43 - 50.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+6 0 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 240 Def Mantine: 183-216 (48.9 - 57.7%) -- 58.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+6 0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 252 HP / 240 Def Mantine: 213-252 (56.9 - 67.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 Atk Technician burned Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 240 Def Mantine: 23-27 (6.1 - 7.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever
0 Atk burned Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 252 HP / 240 Def Mantine: 27-31 (7.2 - 8.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever

 

[The Loog Noog]

Counter

Charizard @ Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 248 HP / 64 Def / 24 SpD / 172 Spe
Impish Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Roost
- Flare Blitz
- Earthquake/Dragon Claw

Mega Charizard X may have seen better days in the metagame, but it is still one of the best Mega Scizor checks regardless. Zard-X can take anything that Scizor has to throw at it with ease and can throw out a wisp on the incoming Lando-T that usually ends up on Mega Scizor bulky offenses aside from being able to flat out OHKO Mega Scizor with Flare Blitz. This is a pretty self explanatory one.

 

[HC]

Volcanion as Counter

Volcanion @ Choice Specs
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Steam Eruption
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Bomb
- Hidden Power Electric

Counter by virtue of typing, Bullet Punch is 4x resisted, U-Turn 2x resisted. Only +6 U-turn can do any reasonable damage to Volcanion, but is outsped so M-Scizor is going down to Fire Blast anyway. Can come in throughout the game due to U-turn doing 17% max, and +2 being forced out constantly or +2 Bullet Punch doing even less. Even has a chance to knock out Sciz with Steam Eruption after Stealth Rocks

calcs

252+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Fire Blast vs. 248 HP / 128 SpD Scizor-Mega: 1044-1228 (304.3 - 358%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Steam Eruption vs. 248 HP / 128 SpD Scizor-Mega: 261-307 (76 - 89.5%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
0 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 19-23 (6.3 - 7.6%) -- possibly the worst move ever
0 Atk Scizor-Mega U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 46-54 (15.2 - 17.9%) -- possible 6HKO
+2 0 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 39-46 (12.9 - 15.2%) -- possible 7HKO
+6 0 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 78-92 (25.9 - 30.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

 

[Random Passerby]

You can start voting for your checks or counters now. Remember, 2 counters. Voting ends Friday night.

Checks:None submitted this week.

Counters:
Magnezone
Volcarona
Heatran
Toxapex
Alolan Marowak
Zapdos
Scarf Magneton
Keldeo
Mega Charizard Y
Gyarados
Mantine
Mega Charizard X
Volcanion

 

[écarlate]

Volcarona and Heatran.

 

[Natan]

Magnezone and Volcarona

 

[Wob]

Magnezone and Mega Charizard X

 

[david0895]

Magnezone and Keldeo

 

[Futatsuiwa of Sado]

Volcarona and Magnezone

 

[Eclipse]

Zapdos and Volcarona

 

[nameless90]

Keldeo
Magnezone

 

[Wally The Bully]

zapdos and heatran

 

[Jucherz]

Heatran and Zapdos

 

[Victor Campos]

Heatran and Zapdos

 

[Creator of Chaos]

Voting is Over for another week and I'd like to thank everyone for there participation. The Winner this week is

Checks: None
Counters: Heatran Randomnick , Zapdos david0895 , Magnezone écarlate

Since its a 3 way tie I'll let Random Passerby decide when he gets access to a computer.

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Vote Tally
Volcarona - 4
Heatran - 5
Zapdos - 5
Magnezone - 5
Keldeo - 2
Zard X - 1

Pinsir @ Pinsirite
Ability: Hyper Cutter
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly / Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Return
- Quick Attack
- Earthquake / Close Combat

Explanation: Arguably One the best megas Going right now (Tied with Mawile and Heracross). Seen mostly on Sticky Web or HO Pinser is a huge threat to both offensive and Defensive teams Alike thanks to fantastic spammable stabs, Priority, Swords and Decent coverage that allow it swtich in and set up against the likes tangrowth, Keldeo and other prominent meta threats. The recent banning of metagross, the decline of Rotom and other flying checks and reduced priority have only served to make it stronger. All said pinser is not a perfect pokemon given the need for Anti-hazard support as well help with the likes of Skarmory, Lando and Zapdos but that hasn't slowed it down as of late.

Good luck everyone

 

[Jucherz]

FIRST!!!

Zapdos @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Discharge
- Heat Wave
- Roost
- Defog

Defensive Zapdos as a counter. Zapdos resists all Pinsir's attacks and can hit back with a super effective Discharge.

252 Atk Aerilate Pinsir-Mega Return vs. 248 HP / 244+ Def Zapdos: 92-108 (24 - 28.1%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252 Atk Aerilate Pinsir-Mega Return vs. 248 HP / 244+ Def Zapdos: 183-216 (47.7 - 56.3%) -- 30.5% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

0 SpA Zapdos Discharge vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Pinsir-Mega: 228-270 (84.1 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (guaranteed OHKO after Rocky Helmet recoil)