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Smogon Doubles - All Hail

Discussion in 'BW Other Teams' started by V2S, Jul 10, 2013.

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  1. V2S

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    Hello everyone! I'm new to Smogon Forums, so correct me if I did anything wrong. So here is my very first team in Smogon Doubles which is a Hail team.

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    Abomasnow @ Quick Claw
    Trait: Snow Warning
    EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 Atk
    Gentle Nature
    - Blizzard
    - Giga Drain
    - Ice Shard
    - Protect

    The only Hail inducer available. I had a feeling that it wouldn't go first no matter how much Speed EVs I invest on it, so I gave it a Quick Claw instead. The EV build was actually suggested by the teambuilder, and without thinking further I clicked on the suggestion. Surprisingly it saved my Abomasnow from being OHKO quite frequently.

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    Froslass (F) @ Ice Gem
    Trait: Cursed Body
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
    Timid Nature
    - Blizzard
    - Shadow Ball
    - Destiny Bond
    - Protect

    A weird addition to my team, Froslass' greatest asset is her high Speed. She is an absolute glass cannon, she either hits hard with STAB+Ice Gem-boosted Blizzard (Perfect accuracy in Hail), or she gets OHKO-ed. Her Ghost-typing is excellent, as Fake Out doesn't work on her, so I immediately Protect another teammate whenever I see a Hitmontop or Mienshao. Also, she's a good switch-in on Medicham, as its Hi Jump Kick would miss. Finally, Destiny Bond.... is my only way to get past Kyurem-B and Volcarona. <-- I really need help on this issue.

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    Roserade @ Expert Belt
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
    Timid Nature
    - Leaf Storm
    - Weather Ball
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Protect

    Roserade hits really hard with Leaf Storm, OHKO-ing even Suicune, thanks to Expert Belt. Weather Ball is a situational move, I use it to counter Dragon-types. However, other weathers may be in play and thus render the whole move useless. Hidden Power [Fire] is my best bet to defeat opposing Abomasnow and the less common Ferrothorn.

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    Mamoswine @ Life Orb
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Icicle Crash
    - Ice Shard
    - Protect

    The invaluable member of my team. It hits almost everything hard with STAB+Life Orb-boosted Earthquake. It can take Heat Wave surprisingly well due to spread moves' power deduction and Thick Fat. It has excellent synergy with Dragonite, spamming Earthquakes all the way.

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    Cloyster @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Skill Link
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
    Adamant Nature
    - Icicle Spear
    - Rock Blast
    - Shell Smash
    - Protect

    Ahhh. The risky one. Focus Sash is to ensure it successfully uses Shell Smash and start attacking like nobody's business. Protect is very handy as opposing Pokemon love to revenge kill with priority, so I try to delay them while making another teammate kill the priority-using Pokemon.

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    Dragonite @ Leftovers
    Trait: Multiscale
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Outrage
    - Earthquake
    - ExtremeSpeed
    - Fire Punch

    Dragonite actually doesn't fit well in a Hail team.... Hail causes it to lose a little HP each turn, forcing me to give it Leftovers in order to keep Multiscale intact. Thus, an item slot is wasted here. But all its moves are excellent, with hard-hitting ExtremeSpeed helping my teammates to survive. Fire Punch is specifically for Ferrothorn and Scizor.


    Overall, I actually really really love All Hail team. However, I have a plethora of Pokemon / issues that I have a hard time getting past them, namely:
    - Kyurem-B
    - Volcarona
    - Trick Room teams
    - Even faster Pokemon
    - Heat Wave or any Fire-type moves

    Do help me think of counters that I should beware of, and any changes I should make in my team, including replacing any Pokemon / item / nature / move / EV build--practically anything! And do suggest team synergy if possible.

    Thanks a lot everyone! Have a nice day!
  2. Audiosurfer

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    Ok, figured I'd give some feedback. Honestly this team has alot of flaws so trying to fix it would mean replacing too many members. Judging from this you don't really have much metagame experience, so instead of me building a team for you, I'd encourage you to visit us on #doubles (linked in my sig) and you can get plenty of advice there. Also visiting the Doubles thread would be a good idea as well. Anyways, good luck :)
  3. BlankZero

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    ^^^
    That, and you need longer descriptions.

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