Smogon Premier League 9 - Week 2

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Reminders:

On Sportsmanship
Note the sportsmanship infraction may be used liberally this SPL, and any unsportsmanlike conduct on the forums, in discord, or in opposing SPL team servers (I won't infract for you being a dick in your own SPL team server unless the situation is so extreme I feel I absolutely have to make an exception (consider basically any masterclass interaction ever)), will be grounds for an infraction. We encourage you to play semi-aggressively, but don't be a Masterclass.

~ Aldaron

On Scheduling Matches
I'm sure plenty of you have come across activity drama while scheduling matches. I'm here to reduce the arbitrary element associated with some of these decisions. It is entirely your decision to adhere to these STRONG RECOMMENDATIONS, but note that if you choose not to, I'll most likely ignore any pleading from your end.

YOU MUST ACTIVATE YOUR VM WALL IF YOU WISH TO PLAY IN THIS TOURNAMENT. THIS IS HOW ALL OFFICIAL SCHEDULING WILL BE HANDLED.

Once that week's thread is posted, you have up to 48 hours to contact your opponent ON HIS VM WALL and mention your timezone and exactly what dates, what time ranges you are available, and where you will battle. Note that the default accepted sim and server is the official server on Showdown/Smogon Tournament Server. You must provide at least 3 different time ranges at least 48 hours from the timestamp of your message, with at least 2 that are 24-hours apart from each other. The minimum and maximum length for 1 time range is 30 minutes, and the minimum difference between the 3 required time ranges is 3 hours. If you give 3 time ranges that stick with this policy, you can give any additional time ranges at any time you please.

NOTE THAT THIS SCENARIO INVOLVES RESPONSE DYNAMICS; THERE IS SOMEONE WHO WILL CONTACT FIRST AND SOMEONE WHO RESPOND...THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT FOR BOTH OF YOU TO ASSUME TO YOU CAN BE FIRST CONTACTS...WHOEVER CONTACTS FIRST IS THE FIRST, AND THE OTHER DEFAULTS TO THE RESPONDER. THIS SHOULD BE OBVIOUS BUT SOME OF YOU ARE DUMB.

Once your opponent has contacted you, you now have up until 72 hours after the week's thread has been posted (NOT after your opponent's message) to respond with times that are good for you. What this means is that if both of you spend the maximum time contacting and responding, you should have back and forth collaboration at a maximum of 72 hours after the round has been posted, with both parties given an additional 24 hours to prepare for the battle should it be scheduled as soon as required. If none of the opponent's proposed time ranges are good for you, you must respond with alternative time ranges.

The first opponent now has X hours to prepare for the battle (if the second opponent agreed to some time) or 24 hours to contact a TD if, for whatever reason, this second set of time ranges does not suit the first opponent. Note this should be an absolute last measure.

Once a time is agreed upon, please make a message on your opponent's VM wall between 10 minutes and 1 second before the agreed upon time and say you are ready to battle and then get to agreed upon location (regardless of whether or not your opponent sends you a response VM). Please protect yourself by making this message, as it makes decisions much easier. You will be required to wait for your opponent for the duration of the time range.

If neither of you contact each other before 48 hours after the thread has been posted, you're both opening yourself up to a potential no contest or substitution. If I look at the situation, I might just determine I'm going to no contest, or whatever based on however I'm feeling at that moment. Don't leave yourself and your team vulnerable to this.

Just because at anytime one of the responders does not respond within the given range does not give you automatic activity win credentials. If they don't contact at all on your VM wall up until 48 hours before the end of the round (note, I'm not going to take discord or sim messages as evidence due to how easily they can be doctored...so if you want to protect yourself, stick to the VM messages), then you obviously have activity win justification. You WILL contact your opponent in a timely manner. However, if they do contact you at all after the suggested response time and before 48 hours before the end of the round, you are required to respond before 24 hours before the end of the round with 2 1-hour time ranges at least 1 hour apart before the end of the round. The opponent, since he did not stick to the proposed response schedule, WILL BE REQUIRED TO PLAY AT ONE OF YOUR NEWLY SUGGESTED TIMES, so you have the advantage here. This obviously puts a bit of an emphasis on the last 48 hours of each round (as is standard operating procedure for most of our official team tournaments anyway), so I will try my best to keep the last 48 hours of the round as close to the majority of the weekend for as much of the world as I can.

If you follow all of these guidelines, you will a.) most likely get your match done with minimal issue or b.) protect yourself and your team from an undue no contest or activity decision. Yes, I hate activity decisions in official tournaments. Yes, I will do my best to prevent activity decisions in the playoffs (the qualifying round is fair game however and I will have no problem issuing an activity call here), but don't push your luck.

Here is an example of how following this would work:

Week 1 thread is posted June 7, 2013 at 12:00 AM. Its deadline is June 14, 2013 at 11:59PM. User A and User B are matched up. User A contacts User B on his VM wall on June 7, at 9:00 PM (47 hours after the thread was posted, so ok), and gives 4 time ranges: June 10, from 7:00-7:30 PM (22 hours after the timestamp of his message, which is only ok so long as at minimum 3 of the other proposed time ranges adhere to the requirements), June 11, from 9:00-9:30 PM (48 hours after the timestamp of his message, which is ok), June 12, from 6:00-6:30 PM (69 hours after timestamp of his message, so ok, but only 21 hours after the earliest time range that is 48 hours after the timestamp), and June 12, from 9:00-9:30 PM (72 hours after the timestamp, so ok, and 24 hours after a legal time range and 3 hours after another legal time range). The June 11 and both June 12 time ranges satisfy the requirements, so User A can propose his first June 10 time range as well. User B responds on June 10, at 8:00 PM (23 hours after User A contacted him, so ok), and picks June 11, at 9:00 PM to battle, which is ok because it is 24 hours after his own response.

You'll note I made most of my response ranges multiples of 24 hours, but also included 24 hours. This means I expect you to be able to check Smogon at least once a day. If that is not feasible, you put yourself at risk.

~ Aldaron

On Disconnecting and timing out drama
Ah, the big beefcake. I'm going to go ahead and put this out there: we reserve the right to judge any individual match on a case by case basis, regardless of assumed precedence set. If you don't like that, you are welcome to not play. Be aware of this.

That said, here is the main way we will probably handle DCs / timing out:

To handle all DC cases...you're gonna submit your teams before the match. Create a thread in the Team Submissions Forum with an import of your team, preferably using https://cryptobin.co/. You don't have to submit, but if you do, you protect yourself from the opponent taking a win. If you do DC (and you can't rejoin the battle) and you haven't submitted your team, your opponent will have the right to take the win. Yes, I'll most likely make a judgment call if he is on his last turn with 1 Pokemon at 5% and paralyzed and with you at 6 100% health Pokemon, because the only way to lose this is to misclick multiple times. However, if you're at 6 100% Pokemon and your opponent is at last Pokemon 10% needing to crit flinch you 6 - 12 times for the win, I'll give him the win if you DC and haven't submitted your team.

I know people like Philip7086 will beg me "to use common sense for a judgment call" for all cases and I would normally agree, but I am giving you all a 100% out by allowing you to submit your team. Basically, submit your team, and protect yourself and your team from any and all DCs. It's a simple procedure that removes almost all subjectivity from a decision regarding a DC. Unlike with the scheduling restrictions, all you have to do is submit the team your are using at anytime before the match takes place, and you'll have 100% protected yourself. Read this rule and understand this now before you join the tournament. Since I'm stating this now, I'm basically going to ignore you if you DC, didn't submit a team, and "had a guaranteed win." Expect it. Also note that I'm going to let the PLAYER (not the team), decide whether he is going to take the win or go another route (replay same moves, replay different teams, etc.).

To further ensure no funny business, if, in the case of a DC replay, there is any concern from either party about funny business, both parties have the right to request a screenshot of the current Pokemon's stats in battle. This is irrelevant for Showdown as you can simply rejoin a battle there, but PO allows you to see the currently out Pokemon's stats if you scroll over it with your mouse. Just hit PrntScrn (windows) while scrolling over it if requested by your opponent, preferably with proof that it is a screenshot of that actual battle (consider including the opponent's request in the battle screen in the screenshot).

Regarding time outs, they are a bit more complex, specifically because some timeouts are due to DCs. The best we can do for this scenario is say that there is some number between 1 minute and 2 minutes (which we will not publicize) that we will set as a limit for timing out, and if you timeout with more than that limit time remaining, we'll assume it is a DC, whereas the opposite is a true timeout. A true timeout defaults to a loss, while the DC timeout is prone to the DC rules (did you submit or not).

~ Aldaron


This should be a smooth ride if everyone follows the instructions above. (schedule via VM, submit teams, don't start drama for no reason)

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Congregation of the Classiest (4) vs Stark Sharks (8)

SM OU: Sabella vs BHARATH_THEBEST
SM OU: Blackoblivion vs Lednah
SM UU: Sacri' vs dodmen
SM RU: Ajna vs Tricking
SM NU: Pohjis vs Teddeh
SM DOU: EmbCPT vs Demantoid
ORAS OU: Znain vs Axel
BW OU: LuckOverSkill vs bluri
DPP OU: NightFox vs ToF
ADV OU: thelinearcurve vs Kevin Garrett
GSC OU: Jimmy Turtwig vs Pleasure
RBY OU: Lusch vs GGFan


Team Raiders (8) vs Alpha Ruiners (4)

SM OU: TDK vs Cdumas
SM OU: Gondra vs Kory2600
SM UU: Pak vs Bushtush
SM RU: -Tsunami- vs Chill Shadow
SM NU: Zukushiku vs snagaa
SM DOU: Kaori vs Croven
ORAS OU: Gingy vs Hiye
BW OU: Jirachee vs ZoroDark
DPP OU: roscoe vs We Three Kings
ADV OU: BKC vs undisputed
GSC OU: choolio vs idiotfrommars
RBY OU: MetalGro$$ vs roudolf13


Ever Grande BIGS (3) vs Dragonspiral Tyrants (9)

SM OU: Mazinger vs psychicmewtwo
SM OU: John vs z0mog
SM UU: Manipulative vs Christo
SM RU: Windsong vs SilentVerse
SM NU: Kushalos vs cb jose altuve
SM DOU: Jhon vs stax
ORAS OU: xray vs Get this Money
BW OU: Posho vs dice
DPP OU: Honor vs Bluewind
ADV OU: Triangles vs UD
GSC OU: d0nut vs Lavos
RBY OU: marcoasd vs badabing


Indie Scooters (3) vs Wi-fi Wolfpack (9)

SM OU: Flamingvictini vs ABR
SM OU: Obliviate vs Trosko
SM UU: Lycans vs Cynde
SM RU: Feliburn vs soulgazer
SM NU: Eternally vs Earth
SM DOU: miltankmilk vs marilli
ORAS OU: Mounts vs Updated Kanto
BW OU: Elodin vs SoulWind
DPP OU: Boudouche vs Void
ADV OU: Ojama vs Astamatitos
GSC OU: Giara vs Fear
RBY OU: Alexander vs The Idiot Ninja


Circus Maximus Tigers (7) vs Cryonicles (5)

SM OU: p2 vs Poek
SM OU: azogue vs Snou
SM UU: A Hero's Destiny vs HT
SM RU: Eternal Spirit vs New Breed
SM NU: Hootie vs ict
SM DOU: MajorBowman vs biosci
ORAS OU: Nintendi vs CrashinBoomBang
BW OU: McMeghan vs Funkasaurus
DPP OU: Tamahome vs aim
ADV OU: CALLOUS vs danilo
GSC OU: k3nan vs sulcata
RBY OU: Diegolh vs Peasounay

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Deadline is Sunday, January 14th at 11:59 PM EST.

Remember to submit your teams to the Team Submission Forum!

If I made a mistake with any matchups or names, please contact Quite Quiet or myself.
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SM OU: Flamingvictini vs ABR
SM OU: Obliviate vs Trosko
SM UU: Lycans vs Cynde
SM RU: Feliburn vs soulgazer
SM NU: Eternally vs Earth
SM DOU: miltankmilk vs marilli
ORAS OU: Mounts vs Updated Kanto
BW OU: Elodin vs SoulWind
DPP OU: Boudouche vs Void
ADV OU: Ojama vs Astamatitos
GSC OU: Giara vs Fear
RBY OU: Alexander vs The Idiot Ninja

last time i got 50% of my predicts right, and with curve that's like a passing grade.

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SM DOU: EmbCPT vs Demantoid
In this showdown between the undefeated Worst Memers of the VGC and DOU domains, expect to see at least one of these players get mished big time. The question is who, though: will EmbC finally break his losing streak against moisture to defeat this Elite Water Fan, or will he get sandwiched by Demantoid?

SM DOU: Kaori vs Croven
The Raiders' DOU core already did the impossible last week, with Zach actually using the correct Tyranitar set AND remembering to put EVs on his Pokemon. Combined with Kaori's recent switch from his Erika PS avatar to his current Roxie avatar, things are certainly looking up for him, especially considering this is going to be the second game of USUM DOU Cr0-4ven's ever played.

SM DOU: Jhon vs stax
While still a relatively fresh face in the scene, Jhon has all he needs to succeed from his teammates: the correct spelling of his name and a healthy diet of mishmish. It'll be exciting to see whether Jhon will have another "on" week, or whether stax will take a "lil pee" on his opponent.

SM DOU: miltankmilk vs marilli
The last time these two met in the Snake Draft, the usage of :fish: and :fishing_pole_and_fish: skyrocketed in the DOU Discord server. Coming fresh off a loss in his sole game thus far, though, many expect miltankmilk to flounder here. But will miltankmilk prove his worth beyond all reasonable trout, or will this just be another saved replay for marilli to jerk off to when there's no internet?

SM DOU: MajorBowman vs Biosci
For the purposes of this match, treat both MajorBowman and Biosci as VGC mains. That way, it becomes much more impressive when either player showcases their knowledge of extremely specialised DOU-specific knowledge, such as Hyperspace move mechanics. But we'll still have to see if Jake can remember to put Mega Scizor in his teambuilder, or if Biosci will expose him as just another MajorBlowman.
 

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SM DOU: EmbCPT vs Demantoid - Interesting game here, I think Deman has the edge and wont bring a team super weak to curse lax like Stax did. also mish

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SM DOU: Kaori vs Croven - See the raiders are splitting time here, hopefully sam's luck isn't as trash as it was in snake
SM DOU: Jhon vs stax - close game, Stax didn't play his greatest last week and brought a strange team giving the edge to jhon
SM DOU: miltankmilk vs marilli - Closets game of the 5 in my opinion, could go either way both will bring something a little odd and make it work
SM DOU: MajorBowman vs biosci - my son doesn't lose
 
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Congregation of the Classiest (5) vs Stark Sharks (7)

SM OU: Sabella vs BHARATH_THEBEST - Both had uncharacteristic showings week 1 tbh, but I can see both also being poised to come back strong here after solid Snakes. I think Sabella has a slight edge as a player as he tends to stick with the game and in control throughout whereas BTB is a bit more of a motivated, up-to-date teambuilder, showing off some of he more interesting sets of ideas when it comes to SM OU as of late. I feel like BTB is probably naturally matches up pretty well with Sabella as Sabella tends to find himself with some pretty offensive stuff or that quirky Chansey balance -- which does work, btw -- and BTB is pretty wide-open in terms of what he elects to use, so I think he can exploit this pretty well. But honestly, Sabella is a good enough player to make other stuff work if he so chooses and here is still plenty of room to branch out within offensive teams, so it's going to be pretty close, I just like the advantages BTB gives himself.
SM OU: Blackoblivion vs Lednah - Close one after seeing both do well last week, but BO seems to be playing with a solid long-term mindset and only misplays pretty sporadically in the mid-game whereas I have not seen enough of Lednah to really pinpoint his playstyle much beyond the fact that I know he can go passive if not in the driver's seat of the game, so we will have to wait and see how the teams look and game starts up to be sure, but I think BO simply has more going for him atm.
SM UU: Sacri' vs dodmen
SM RU: Ajna vs Tricking
SM NU: Pohjis vs Teddeh - I think Teddeh is probably the best NU game player atm and his team last week was solid, so gotta give him props for that. Pohjis is not too far off the top of the pack, but he will be in for an uphill battle here unless he branches out and tries to counterstyle some standardish balance here I feel. I expect two Xatus in this fight btw.
SM DOU: EmbCPT vs Demantoid
ORAS OU: Znain vs Axel
BW OU: LuckOverSkill vs bluri - Really interested to see what both of these guys come up with -- hopefully no Dugtrio! Regardless, luck I feel pilots the teams that he builds, no matter how unorthodox, at a bit more of a consistently higher level. Bluri is more likely to get the match-up advantage I feel, especially with his support, but I tend to gut-feel for the dude I feel has a better grip on gameplay, so this is another one of those -- close regardless.
DPP OU: NightFox vs ToF
ADV OU: thelinearcurve vs Kevin Garrett
GSC OU: Jimmy Turtwig vs Pleasure
RBY OU: Lusch vs GGFan

Team Raiders (9) vs Alpha Ruiners (3)

SM OU: TDK vs Cdumas - Fire game, one of the best this week. I think TDK is one of the best overall and Cdu is great at managing games, so should be nice. I do believe that TDK has the stylistic advantage and probably the slight upper hand as a player if he is a bit more aggressive than last week, so going to favor him.
SM OU: Gondra vs Kory2600 - Really liked Gondra's team and gameplay last week regardless of the loss and while Kory won the first week, I find Gondra to be the (slightly) better of the two. Could go either way and both are very underrated, but favoring Gondra.
SM UU: Pak vs Bushtush
SM RU: -Tsunami- vs Chill Shadow
SM NU: Zukushiku vs snagaa - Both are heat, but Snaga is hungry for this and I feel like more likely to use some creative stuff to give him an edge
SM DOU: Kaori vs Croven
ORAS OU: Gingy vs Hiye
BW OU: Jirachee vs ZoroDark - Zoro is not afraid to go a bit more outside the box and both default to standards, I think
DPP OU: roscoe vs We Three Kings
ADV OU: BKC vs undisputed - Very excited to see this one!
GSC OU: choolio vs idiotfrommars - Really impressive showing last week from Choolio -- looking forward to seeing what he comes up with and his approach for this one, especially given how IFM is.
RBY OU: MetalGro$$ vs roudolf13

Indie Scooters (8) vs Wifi Wolfpack (4) - nah I think this'll be closer in all honesty, just kinda how predicts worked out I suppose x_x

SM OU: Flamingvictini vs ABR - Another great one, I thin ABR will get back at him after Snake. Interested to see what both come up with.
SM OU: Obliviate vs Trosko
SM UU: Lycans vs Cynde
SM RU: Feliburn vs soulgazer
SM NU: Eternally vs Earth
SM DOU: miltankmilk vs marilli - Dunno a ton, but really could go either way -- both v solid, probs the closest of the entire series in my eyes.
ORAS OU: Mounts vs Updated Kanto
BW OU: Elodin vs SoulWind - Rematch of SPL 6 finals, I expect SW to be prepared to slaughter tbh.
DPP OU: Boudouche vs Void
ADV OU: Ojama vs Astamatitos
GSC OU: Giara vs Fear
RBY OU: Alexander vs The Idiot Ninja

Circus Maximus Tigers (5) vs Cryonicles (7)

SM OU: p2 vs Poek - Poek won this one last year and I do not think a ton has changed wrt either's approach or gameplay, so yea I think he will do it once again
SM OU: azogue vs Snou
SM UU: A Hero's Destiny vs HT
SM RU: Eternal Spirit vs New Breed
SM NU: Hootie vs ict
SM DOU: MajorBowman vs biosci
ORAS OU: Nintendi vs CrashinBoomBang - Highligh match imo
BW OU: McMeghan vs Funkasaurus - Cool match-up of my ex-teammates and two of my favorite BWers, looking forward to seeing it. With that said, Roro has to have the edge here
DPP OU: Tamahome vs aim - Cryos gotta be packing all the Jirachi checks in the game
ADV OU: CALLOUS vs danilo - flames, hope this one is enjoyable
GSC OU: k3nan vs sulcata
RBY OU: Diegolh vs Peasounay
 
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Predictions:
DPP OU: NightFox vs ToF
ADV OU: thelinearcurve vs Kevin Garrett
RBY OU: Lusch vs GGFan

DPP OU: roscoe vs We Three Kings
ADV OU: BKC vs undisputed
RBY OU: MetalGro$$ vs roudolf13

DPP OU: Honor vs Bluewind
ADV OU: Triangles vs UD
RBY OU: marcoasd vs badabing

DPP OU: Boudouche vs Void
ADV OU: Ojama vs Astamatitos
RBY OU: Alexander vs The Idiot Ninja

DPP OU: Tamahome vs aim
ADV OU: CALLOUS vs daniloat
RBY OU: Diegolh vs Peasounay
 
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SM OU: p2 vs Poek
SM OU: azogue vs Snou
SM UU: A Hero's Destiny vs HT
SM RU: Eternal Spirit vs New Breed
SM NU: Hootie vs ict
SM DOU: MajorBowman vs biosci
ORAS OU: Nintendi vs CrashinBoomBang
BW OU: McMeghan vs Funkasaurus
DPP OU: Tamahome vs aim
ADV OU: CALLOUS vs danilo
GSC OU: k3nan vs sulcata
RBY OU: Diegolh vs Peasounay
 
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ORAS OU: Znain vs Axel: 55-45 Znain is WILD
ORAS OU: Gingy vs Hiye: 47-53 cant rlly predict this, both are good and both are 0-1, i just can't see Hiye being 0-2 and i know Gingy is a bit busy so going with him
ORAS OU: Mounts vs Updated Kanto: 65-35 both good, Mounts is a top ORASer tho and i have no doubt he is gonna take this week.
ORAS OU: Nintendi vs CrashinBoomBang: 40-60 CBB oml



Gl GTM and lgi Bigs, i waited long time for this
 
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