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Smogon Premier League Season 5 Commencement

Discussion in 'Smogon Premier League' started by Oglemi, Dec 5, 2013.

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  1. Oglemi

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    Welcome one and all to the 5th installment of the Smogon Premier League. I'm very excited to receive the torch from symph, Eo, and Fabbles and carry on the tradition! As always, 10 teams will be competing in this season to fight it out for fabulous red trophy.

    Player sign-ups will commence very soon.

    The current lineup of teams, with their managing staff, is as follows:

    Managers' names are in bold, with Assistant Managers in parentheses

    The Ever Grande BIGS: Funkasaurus (CTI and tab)
    The Team Raiders: locopoke (Hugendugen and Birkal)
    The Indie Scooters: BKC (august and bro fist)
    The Alpha Ruiners: McMeghan (Ciele and BAIKA)
    The Cryonicles: yondie (Snunch and M Dragon)
    The Circus Maximus Tigers: little gk/tennisace (Solace)
    The Congregation of the Classiest: Nachos (Stone_Cold and Jirachee)
    The Stark Sharks: makiri (panamaxis and Philip7086)
    The Smog Frogs: LonelyNess (macle and joshe)
    The Wifi Wolfpack: DittoCrow (Limitless and gr8astard)


    Just as important to SPL as the managers are the players. Player sign-ups will go momentarily. When signing up, a prospective player will write in their application which tier(s) he or she wants play for SPL. Do NOT put down a tier if you would not seriously consider playing for that tier, not only for your team's sake, but for your own personal sake. The Smogon Premier League has been known for the highest level of competition in each week at each position. I want the best players playing against each other in their best metagames, as I am sure everyone does.

    As last season, each team will be able to retain as many players as they wish. The formula for calculating how much a player will cost to retain is as follows:

    The retaining cost will be the HIGHER of the two following scenarios:

    - What the player went for in the last auction, + 3k (Ex. if locopoke was bought at 15k, it would take 18k to retain him)

    - 10k, if the retaining price would not reach 10k in the previous example (Ex. if ShakeItUp was bought at 3k, it would take 10, not 6k, to retain him.)

    Also be aware: Just because a player cost under 10k the previous auction does not mean a player will cost 10k to retain (Ex. if Aldaron cost 8k in the previous auction, he would cost 11k to retain, not 10k.)

    Now one important piece of information that will help the managers decide who to retain: the tiers which will be included in Season 5 of SPL. As last season, we have decided to retain ties. With the introduction of a new generation, we have even more slots to fill in the roster, bringing the number of tiers to 12 this season! I'd like to extend a formal welcome to LC and Doubles to the tournament! We have decided to remove RBY and VGC to keep the even number of tiers and keep the number of tiers to 12.

    Here is the lineup for Season 5 of the Smogon Premier League!

    Obviously, each of the ‘BW’ tiers will be BW2.

    · XY OU 1
    · XY OU 2
    · XY Ubers
    · XY LC
    · XY Doubles
    · BW OU
    · BW UU
    · BW RU
    · BW NU
    . DPP OU
    · ADV OU
    · GSC OU

    Nothing has changed from the previous season in deciding how the League Stages and Playoffs will work for this Season.

    League Stages

    Not all 10 teams will qualify to play in the playoffs. Based on the results of the League stage, the top 4 teams will advance to the playoffs.

    In the league stages, beating another team gives you 2 points, drawing the match gives you 1 point, and losing it gives you nothing. In addition, the manner in which you win will also be stored; that is, how many you won vs how many you lost. This difference will be used in case of a tie at the end of the league stage.

    Playoffs

    Based on the league stage, the top 4 teams will be seeded and placed into a bracket, in which they will go head to head. Teams will battle in the same format as during the league stage. At the end of all 12 battles, the team with more wins will advance to the next round.

    In the case of a tie, the advancing team will be decided by a best of three in the three Smogon Tour metagames, namely: BW2 OU, DPP OU, and ADV OU. Knowing this before the season, it may be beneficial for managers to take the playoff tiebreaker into consideration during the auction.

    The Tournament will progress in this format until there is only one team left standing, the champion of the Smogon Premier League.

    Description of General Manager (open)


    The General Manager of a team is essentially the boss of a team. The GM is the final word in all decisions (barring the host) regarding his team. The GM decides which players play on the team, who plays in what position, and even handles the team finances. Managers also make sure that the team keeps running on a day to day basis. If a team fails to complete their matches by the end of the allotted time, the onus is on the manager to inform the host as to what happened in order to make sure that proper activity calls are made.

    Because of these responsibilities, The General Manager is probably the most important part of the team. As such, the position of GM is not one to be taken lightly.

    • There will not always be 10 manager slots to fill. Past managers in good standing (as determined by Tournament Directors and the hosts of the tournament) will be invited to return as GMs of their respective teams at the beginning of the season. If they refuse the position, past Assistant Managers of the same team (in good standing, of course) will be offered the position. If he/she too refuses, the position is up for grabs to the general public.
    • General Managers are not eligible to play in the Smogon Premier League. You can either play or manage, not both.
    • General Managers are chosen largely on a subjective opinion of the hosts as well as Tournament Directors as to who they believe would be fit for the position. Being fit for the position includes the knowledge of excellent battlers in the community (for fielding a competent team), having above average activity on the forums and IRC (in order to ensure that you don’t abandon your team), as well as possessing a necessary amount of “gravitas” (If you can’t make a player do what you tell them to, such as play an undesirable metagame, you’re not going to make a good manager).

    General Managers are required to acquire at least one Assistant Manager. The General Manager gets full sovereignty in choosing his assistant manager. The assistant manager is essentially the second in command for the team. He has all of the functions and roles as the General Manager does, the GM just trumps him in head-to-head decisions.

    Lastly, the General Manager has the following duties:

    • He/she shall choose at least one Assistant Manager, but no more than two.
    • He/she shall make the host aware of any player retentions before the auction starts.
    • He/she shall be present at the live auction, or appoint someone to participate in the live auction in their stead.
    • He/she shall send the host weekly rosters.
    • He/she shall ensure to the best of his/her abilities that his/her battlers complete their matches on time.
    • In the event that a match fails to be completed, he/she shall inform the host as to why the match failed to be completed, and what his/her battler did in order to finish the match.
    • He/she shall communicate any grievances with the host.
    • He/she shall oversee all trades the team makes.


    Player Sign-Ups Information (open)


    All players must sign up if they wish to play in the Smogon Premier League, even those who will eventually be retained to their past teams. It is important to note that the Smogon Premier League is an 11 week event and that the activity level of a player is significant. Do not sign up to play for a team if you do not intend to see the tournament through to the end. This includes maintaining a competitive attitude if your team is already eliminated from playoff contention. You never know whether or not winning your end-season matches will make you a more valued player next season, so even if your team isn’t necessarily in the playoff picture anymore, there’s always value in playing your best. Failure to complete matches in a timely manner consistently may result in being barred from entering the Smogon Premier League in future seasons.

    The format for signing up to play in the Smogon Premier League is as follows. This is not the sign-up thread.

    The sign-up list will then be taken and sorted into appropriate lists for each of the 12 metagames. These lists will then be used by managers for the auction.


    Live Auction (open)

    Total money for teams is 140,000 credits.

    In the weeks preceding the live auction, a time will be chosen by all of the General Managers to meet and perform a live auction in order to choose players. Managers will be expected to remain at the auction for the entire duration, which should take approximately 2-3 hours. If a General Manager cannot, for some reason, find any feasible time that he can attend a Live Auction, then the Assistant Manager will be called upon to fill in the spot. If the Assistant Manager cannot fill the spot, then the second Assistant Manager (if applicable) will fill in the spot. If no Manager can fill the spot for the Live Auction… then a new General Manager + Assistant Manager who can find time to make a live auction will be found to replace the old ones.

    Once a time is set, all 10 managers + the hosts will enter #splauction on SynIRC.net at the given time. The host will administer vops to the 10 managers, and place mode +m on the chat. Spectators are allowed to join in to watch the fun unfold, but will not be able to speak. Discussion on the bidding at hand should be relegated to #spl.

    It is at this time that each manager will reveal who (if anybody) they have chosen to retain from their roster last year. The order by which managers will reveal their retainers will be determined by their ranking from last year. There are a few notes to be made on the subject of retainers:

    • The cost to retain a player is 10,000 Credits, or 3,000 Credits added to the salary the player was paid in the season preceding the current one, whichever is more expensive.

    After retainers are revealed, those players retained to teams are taken off of the free agent list. Following this, the live auction starts.

    The host will first ask a team to nominate a player. The order by which teams will nominate players will go in a snaking pattern from the highest ranked team from last year to the lowest ranked team, then the lowest ranked team to the highest ranked team. The host will then tell the details of said player and bidding will commence, starting at 3,000 credits, with the nominating team automatically placing the first bid. The auction will then be in real time. Managers will simply put in their bids in the channel, raising a minimum of 500 credits. If after 15 seconds there are no new bids, the player is sold to the highest bid in the channel. The host will provide a 5 second warning before bidding is closed on a player. The host will then post updated credit totals and will then prompt the next manager in the rotation to nominate a player.

    Managers are asked to please have a predetermined list of players you intend to nominate as well as potential bid caps, in order to make the process go as quickly and seamlessly as possible.

    Here is a sample of how the live auction is expected to take place.

    <LonelyNess> The Scooters - 130k
    <LonelyNess> The Ruiners - 130k
    <LonelyNess> The Tigers - 130k
    <LonelyNess> The Scooters are up to nominate.
    <Synre> We nominate LonelyNess.
    <LonelyNess> LonelyNess - DPP UU | GSC OU
    <LonelyNess> The bidding starts at 3000 Credits to the Indie Scooters
    <whistle> 3500
    <Synre> 4000
    <thoughts> 6000
    <Synre> 6500
    <thoughts> 7000
    <Synre> 7500

    --10 seconds pass--

    <LonelyNess> 5 seconds remaining.
    <thoughts> 8000
    <Synre> 8500

    --10 seconds pass--

    <LonelyNess> 5 seconds remaining.

    --5 seconds pass--

    <LonelyNess> SOLD to the Indie Scooters for 8500 Credits
    <LonelyNess> The Scooters - 121.5k
    <LonelyNess> The Ruiners - 130k
    <LonelyNess> The Tigers - 130k
    <LonelyNess> The Ruiners are up to nominate.

    A reminder to all managers that it is necessary for you to field a roster of 12 starters + 2 substitutes. Of which, all must be paid at least 3,000 credits. This creates a soft cap on bids of 101,000 credits, that is, the maximum amount of money you can spend on any one player and still have enough money left over to pay at least 3,000 credits a piece on 13 more players.

    Another thing to remember is that there are midseason free agent pick-ups. It might be beneficial to save some credits in order to pick up players midseason.


    Week One (open)

    It is at this time that the tournament will commence. The league stages consist of a Round Robin tournament. Every team will face every other team once through 9 weeks of play. Each manager will submit to the host a roster no later than the deadline of the previous week. This roster will list the starting players and what metagames they will play. The metagames represented in the Smogon Premier League are as follows:

    XY OU 1:
    XY OU 2:
    XY Ubers:
    XY LC:
    XY Doubles:
    BW OU:
    BW UU:
    BW RU:
    BW NU:
    DPP OU:
    ADV OU
    GSC OU:

    When the week starts, teams' players will face off in their respective metagames / tiers. The XY OU 1 from Team A will face the XY OU 1 from team B, XY OU 2 will face XY OU 2, and so on. Whichever team wins the most battles will be declared the victor for the week. Rather than score based on how many individual battles a team wins, the only thing that matters is who beat the most teams. As such, points are awarded based only on wins and losses versus teams as a whole, not individual players. Beating a team in a week’s matchups is worth two points, tying with a team is worth one point, and losing is worth none, simple as that. At the end of the round robin, the top four teams in the points proceed to the playoffs and will be seeded into a knock-out style bracket where they will face off until only one team remains.

    There are a few regulatory things during the league stages that need to be outlined.

    1. Substitutes – At any point in time during the week, a team may make a substitution for an inactive player. In order to do this a manager must PM a host on the forums (or IRC) saying which player is substituting out, and which player is substituting in. A player that has substituted out for a week cannot be substituted back in. In addition, in order to catch any attempts at garnering favorable matchups in XY OU (where the lineup you choose affects pairings), all substitutions are subject to veto by the host if the substitution is suspected to be attempting to “game” the system.

    2. Pre-Week Battling – Because there is a set schedule generated at the beginning of the season, it is possible to accurately guess what players you will be facing in any given week (especially if you play a metagame that isn’t XY OU). However, because the next week’s rosters are not set in stone until the day before the next week, there is no telling what a manager will do with regards to who they slot in one spot… especially if they have more than one player in any given tier. Asking to battle early for future weeks is essentially asking the opposing manager to short themselves options and forces them to make their roster early, perhaps without all of the knowledge they might have gleaned over the course of the week. Due to this, battling early for future weeks is not allowed. Do not ask to battle early for a future week. You will be denied. No exceptions. This is what you have substitutes for.

    3. Trades – Teams may trade players with each other at any point during the regular season. In order to complete a trade, both involved managers must submit a PM to the host detailing which player(s) on their team they are trading away, as well as which players they are receiving as compensation. Trades are finalized at the end of the week they are conducted in. In addition, due to potential conflicts of interest, any players involved in trades must be substituted out of the week they’re involved in a trade. For example, if it’s Week 3 and LonelyNess is scheduled to play Folgorio, but LonelyNess’ team wishes to trade LonelyNess away for someone new, LonelyNess must be substituted out for another player. LonelyNess is valid for slotting into the roster of his new team at the beginning of Week 4.

    4. There will be no trades allowed following the conclusion of the midseason pickups.

    5. Trades become finalized with host approval; managers may bring up a trade for veto within 24 hours of the trade being made and the TDs will review the trade and re-finalize or veto the trade.

    6. Activity decisions – There are inevitably times where two players simply fail to complete a match; however, the nature of the tournament system sometimes makes it advantageous to purposely fail to play (such as when a team is up 4-3 in a week). Because of this, it is necessary to make activity decisions on matches. Hosts are required to make thorough investigations regarding each and every potential failed match during a week. If both parties are deemed to be equally apathetic or enthusiastic about getting the match done, but just have not had the opportunity to make it happen, the match will result in a no contest. However, if it is deemed that one party made significantly more effort than the other in attempting to get the match done, then a win will be awarded to that player. Things that will make it very likely that you will lose via activity include: failing to VM your opponent immediately upon the week’s start, scheduling a match and being documented as missing the match time, failing to provide any concrete times for which you can be reached, failing to respond to an opponent’s VM at all. Note that this is a tournament that requires a very high level of activity and diligence, if you don’t think you can get your matches done, quite simply don’t sign up.

    7. Rule Breaking – There is no excuse for breaking any of the predetermined rules. If you are caught breaking a rule, you will lose your match. There is no lenience with regards to this. Break a rule, you lose. Period.

    8. Reversing Rulings - No ruling will be retroactively overturned once the week following the week that the ruling has been made has ended. This includes: activity rulings / rulings based on rule breaking / anything else under the sun. I'm not going back in time to reevaluate every single decision I've made throughout the tournament on Week 9 because you think you were gypped 1-2 wins along the way and now they're the difference between you and a playoff spot. Any appeals to a ruling must be made during the week that the ruling is made; beyond that, all rulings are final once the week ends.


    Midseason Free Agent Pickups (open)

    After Week 4, there will be a “break” week for Midseason Free Agent Pickups. Because players are bound to miss the original sign-ups, as well teams are bound to have players that have to leave for a significant portion of the season, in the middle of the season, sign-ups will reopen for 3 days. Players will sign up and a new free agent list will be made. Note: even if you signed up the first time around, you must re-signup in order to get on the midseason free agent list. After sign-ups close, the host will remind each manager how many credits they have left over from the original live auction.

    Instead of having another live auction, an auction will take place on the forums. A manager will post their bids, with other managers having up to 24 hours from the time of the post to make a higher bid on the player. After 24 hours, if the manager has not been outbid, his or her team will be awarded the players. The Midseason auction will last for a week, until the start of week 5. There is no use for credits leftover after the midseason free agent pickups, so it is in every manager’s best interest to spend all of their remaining points at this time.


    Weeks 10-11: Playoffs (open)

    At the end of the league stages, there will be a knockout style playoffs involving the top 4 teams in the points. In the event of a tie in overall points standings, the following criteria is used for breaking ties.

    • Overall Points >
    • Battle Difference (total # battles won - total # battles lost) >
    • Best of 3 - each team picks a unique tier that isn't XY OU with the winner of the Head to Head winner picking first, then XY OU is the 3rd game

    After the top 4 have been determined, each team will be seeded. The #1 seed will play the #4 seed, and the #2 seed will play the #3 seed. The victors of these matches will advance to the finals match. The winning team of this match will be declared the ultimate victors of the Smogon Premier League.


    On Revealing Sets and Teams (open)

    "Revealing" sets and teams during matches is becoming more and more of a hot topic as the SPL season wears on.

    - Revealing Teams

    This is grounds for immediate unsportsmanlike conduct and infraction on the forums. Posting team pastebins and others of the kind will not be tolerated from here on out. This is your final warning.

    - Revealing Sets

    This is where the gray area starts and where it's hard to actually enforce since I personally don't see it as that large of a problem, but others see it as a huge issue.

    There have been many complaints over the course of the past couple weeks of users speculating obscure or gimmicky sets that have been legit possibilities or true to the teams for SPL matches, alerting the other party to scenarios or sets that they may not have considered or been aware, and thus possibly changing their play. In-chat "ghosting" is also not what we want to see in the battles.

    Speculating really obscure moves like HP Flying on an Aegislash is not really harmful, nor is speculating standard sets like "incoming Fire Blast" from a Moltres, and will thus not be reprimanded.

    However, depending on moderator discretion and the egregiousness of the speculating in question, consistently set revealing/speculating the likes of let's say SD Sceptile in RU or Choice Scarf Excadrill in XY OU (which are like the in between of the above examples), may lead to a unsportsmanlike conduct and infraction, and will most definitely lead to a lock and maybe kick on the simulator.


    In essence, police yourselves, and know that this is something to watch what you say in the game chats. Work to get this kind of behavior out of the game chats.


    On Sellbacks at Midseason (open)

    Acceptable reasons for sellback:
    1. User is a team cancer (as to be judged by TD team and evidenced by logs)
    2. User has quit
    3. User has disappeared
    4. Inactivity (Defined below)

    We are defining inactivity as this: "So low of inactivity that it makes it difficult to complete battles of the battler's accord." This includes largely IRC inactivity, but forum inactivity will carry weight as well. If the battler has low activity but is still able to schedule by themselves and conduct their own battles, that is not grounds for a sellback.

    Combinations of the above factors will also be taken into account.


    On Disconnecting and Reconnecting to PS! (open)

    This has been a thing in the past and it hasn't caused any problems thus far, but an issue came up during the liberty vs Heist battle that needs to be restated:

    If a player that is playing on PS has disconnected, DO NOT JOIN THE BATTLE IN THEIR PLACE

    DO NOT


    DO

    NOT

    !

    DOn't

    doN'T

    This can lead very very very quickly to an infraction, tournament ban, or forum ban and team disqualification of the match (depending on who exactly joined) as it is very easy to then team reveal to the other team.

    This is another reason why playing on SmogTours is far more preferred so as to protect yourself during disconnects, as we can see who exactly is joining the battle.

    If the big JOIN button pops up in your window, DON'T JUST CLICK IT, look to make sure it's not because one of the players disconnected. This is your final and only warning.


    Each member of the winning team’s roster, as well as the general manager and any assistant managers will receive an official Smogon Trophy in their postbit.

    This post marks the formal start to Season 5, which means:

    Managers can now formalize trades
    Managers can inform me the players they wish to retain (REMINDER: Players can refuse to be retained, which means if they sign up, they will be a free agent for Season 5. When conducting trades that involve retainer rights MAKE SURE BEFOREHAND that the player will play for your team.)


    Managers can hold official tryouts

    Here's to a great Season!
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    just want to thank TDs and managers for putting this out in such a timely fashion and allowing underrated tiers to shine!
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    Ooo good luck everyone!
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    anyone is welcome to join #scooters for tryouts
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    Super excited to finally be able to play XY Doubles and XY LC in tourny play!
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    everyone should go to #los_tigres for tigres tryouts :>

    you should also talk to resident tigre zebraiken if you want to tryout, since he's a battlewhore
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    The Team Raiders: locopoke (Atticus and Birkal)

    WTF?

    Also there should be a sacking system where if you finish in the bottom two you cannot manage the next season.
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    confirming that Atticus is a dirty traitor

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    Managers have until the draft to PM me with their retainers for this season.
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    join #alpharuiners for tryout and a guaranteed spot in play-off
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    Come to #wifiwolfpack for tryouts. We're mainly looking for LC and UU players. Of course, anyone is welcome to tryout, so be sure to visit!
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    We realized this application is sexist and therefore it was changed, this is the current application form: http://pastebin.com/tUcH4VVz

    Sorry if any user was offended and/or unable to apply for a try out due to being female.

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  20. Prague Kick

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    fuk frogs i cant try out :(
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    <LonelyNess> too late
    <LonelyNess> I already got your retainers
    <LonelyNess> and I am 100% retaining you
    * LonelyNess throws doido a jesey
    <LonelyNess> *jersey
    <LonelyNess> you're a frog now, son
    <doido> REMINDER: Players can refuse to be retained, which means if they sign up, they will be a free agent for Season 4. When conducting trades that involve retainer rights MAKE SURE BEFOREHAND that the player will play for your team.
    <doido> uhu
    <doido> i don't think i'm a frog yet

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  22. symphonyx64

    symphonyx64 Private messages are the best way to reach me
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    Good luck Oglemi!
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  23. Jirachee

    Jirachee Kaleidoscope
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    if you play anything else than ubers or adv, join #classiest for tryouts and a chance to talk to Stone_Cold in real time
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  24. blarajan

    blarajan holla ladies #£14000 #bling #sparkle #bitchesonmydick
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    I have a problem with the following:

    I don't think anyone would expect for LonelyNess to get bid on, let alone go for 8.5k. I would recommend changing this example.

    This on the other hand is a good example of something that is likely to happen.
  25. Nelson

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    like this isn't the tenth time someone is doing the same joke..
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