Gen 1 Smogon RBY analysis challenge.

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  1. Hipmonlee

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    The idea behind this game: who can spot the most egregious lines in Smogon's RBY analyses?

    Here is a starting point:
    Good luck!
  2. Spork

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    That is hilarious...

    The most egregious thing generally about those analyses is that they never seem to remember what metagame or what ruleset they're being written for.
  3. Tonykantos

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    I suppose Farfetch'd whole analysis would count as one big joke, almost DPP kakuna-level

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  4. Hipmonlee

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    Farfetch'd analysis I wrote, and, trust me, that line is accurate.

    Though the analysis manages to include yet another bizarre mention of Snorlax as a counter. I am certain I didnt put that there..

    I dont know when or why, but someone seems to have gone through and added a line to the effect of Snorlax has high HP and therefore counters this pokemon to around about half of our analyses.
  5. Tonykantos

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    Farfetch'd aside, this is my bet as ( a couple ) hilarious lines:

    Made me laugh a little, actually

  6. Hipmonlee

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    Here is another:

    Ninetales I sorta get, but what the hell is Arcanine going to do that Zard cant?
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    A lot of weird mention of Supersonic as an option on just about everything that can get it. (Notable examples: Aerodactyl, Venomoth.) A lot of stuff has a sparse movepool in RBY, but Supersonic is just so awful.

    Seadra's analysis lists a bunch of good water-types to demonstrate why Seadra sucks in comparison. Among the likes of Lapras, Starmie, Slowbro, and Cloyster is... Kabutops. C'mon, if you're going to do something like that, at least make it Kingler.

    Other (admittedly nitpicky) quirks include:

    -Omastar absolutely owns all those silly Pokémon that can only use Normal or Fire moves...
    (from Vileplume) -Although Acid is fairly weak, it destroys Parasect...

    Yeah, play up those strengths. Ain't nothing that says RBY like the dominance of Parasect and Flareon.
  8. TM13IceBeam

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    I know Tauros is like god-awesome but lolwut at the end
  9. Pocket

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    No srsly, Tauros is really THAT good. It can pull off a win out of its ass. If there's a Tauros there's a way.
  10. Hipmonlee

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    It also suggests toxic and psywave though, admittedly pretty tentatively..
  11. TM13IceBeam

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    I'm quite sure the actual effect of FAIL Energy in RBY is quartering your crit rate instead of quadrupling it...
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    I'm pretty sure paralysis doesn't lower your critical hit rate.
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    wigglytuff the special sweeper

    Aside from the fact that this sentence makes no sense, the author calls Wigglytuff a powerful special attacker... 198 special!
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    Every RBY and GSC analysis needs a complete makeover to be honest.
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    Primeape the UU Sweeper?

    Totally untrue. Primeape is terrible in UU, and is actually worse there than he is in OU.
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    go for it
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    Holy shitballs I think I just won; what a sentence this is, certainly not a run-on; it might need a bit more punctuation, to get it's message across
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    Yeah, what the hell.

  20. PKMN Hunter 18

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    I think the critical hit rate in RBY was based on your speed stat. If you had high speed, you would have a better chance of a critical hit.
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    Base speed, not the actual stat.
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    Aerodactyl is fucking horrible. Are you RBY2k10 scrubs seriously using it to wall snorlax? Please tell me you're joking.
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    Aero's more viable than you'd think. I personally wouldn't use it, but the sheer power of a Sky Attack crit and the ability to sponge hits from the most popular Snorlax set certainly aren't attributes to sneer at. It's not like it's being used as a standard or anything.
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    420 is 4loko

    At the risk of reading too much into this statement, I'd wager a guess and say you're the kind of person who has never made any contribution to the development of a metagame. You merely play with what is established by others and issue your shallow critiques which reek of xenophobia.

    Aerodactyl is decent in standard, despite what that abysmal write-up currently says about him. Reflect Aerodactyl does indeed wall Snorlax and a CH Sky Attack will 1HKO about half of the OU. Late game, it can be very awkward to deal with Aero as a switch allows him to start glowing.

    And no, we don't consider Aero a staple on our OU teams at rby2k10, but, yes, we do think that every pokemon should have a decent analysis. If you think that a write-up like that is "university" worthy, I'm worried about your education ;)
  25. Hipmonlee

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    Lax still does use surf from time to time..

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