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#27
SM NU: meeps 50-50 FLCL - 2 POWERFUL MAINERS WTF THERE'S NO WAY I CAN PREDICT THIS FVGFDFVGFFVGVFFVF PEARL.EXE HAS STOPPED WORKING

SM NU: meeps 60-40 Lax - both of them are mainers but the meeps jerk makes him more powerful than lax, who has yet to receive the nu jerk's full blessing

SM NU: meeps 75.555-24.555 Hootie - same as above, except that hootie is bootie

SM NU: Kushalos 55-45 Yui. - kushalos is a mainer (albeit not a pure breed one) while yui has been stuck on PO up until this tournament. however, once you factor in the chance of kushalos getting attacked by his sister in bed during the game, this actually turns into a pretty close call

SM NU: Kushalos 36.6544-63.3456 Eternally - this is like walking into a cutest dog competition with a chihuahua bulldog crossbreed and facing off against a husky. they're both dogs, but the differences between them are like night and day. likewise, both of these guys are mainers, but eternally has committed most of his life up until this point to achieve maximum mastery of the nu tier, while kushalos also plays other tiers for whatever reason

SM NU: Kushalos 61-42 Jayde - if this were to be a black and white two over used match, it'd turn into a pretty fierce clash between bkc's latest tyranitar skarm scarf chomp sand balance and some hot heat consisting of 6 pokemon holding choice bands. however, this is sm nu we're talking about here, so kushalos' mastery will reign supreme over jayde's ability to literally invade his opponent's head

SM NU: Yui. vs. Eternally - Eternally may be from "down under" but his record is above and beyond so far. Then again, Steve Irwin also fought off crocs but got nabbed by a stingray so I'm not ruling out a Yui. win! author's note: when inquired about this particular match up, quebec's finest and former nu mainer soulgazer replied with: "eternally is very good, yui yui!"

SM NU: Yui. 50-50 Hootie - Can 2013's 4th best PO NUer find his former self after beating Rodri or will Togedemaru's analysis skeleton not be the only thing Hootie's gonna stamp this phase? Personally, I believe that the first mainer to kill 6 pokemon in this match will be the one to bring the win home

SM NU: Eternally 56-44 elodin - although one would certainly think that phase 1 "blasted" a hole through the goldenrod gliders' sm nu slot, manager duo ciele + pearl successfully managed to drag a wildebeest out of brazilean high elo league of legends solo queue to fill in the gap. meet elodin: one of smogon's most controversial figures in recent times. from allegedly receiving guidance from his buddy sogeking through some of his tour career's most important games to making a throwaway account just to post a 3/10 meme (which led to his own ban in the process LOL), this man has, honestly, done pretty much everything there is to be done. however, one question remains: can he beat a mainer? my gut doesn't think so, but i can guarantee that this will be a fierce duel for sure.

SM NU: elodin vs. Jayde - i personally refuse to predict this match due to the lack of a seasoned nu veteran in it. in all honesty, they could both lose for all i care. fucking heretics

SM NU: elodin 5-95 Rodriblutar - remember that one time when elodin took too long to actualisasion the grand slam standings? that's right boys: it has come back to bite him in the ass!

SM NU: Jayde 0.0000001-99.99999999 FLCL - these predictions went from 0 to 100 real fast huh. anyway, flcl is the magnum opus of never used. hell, one might even say he is the truth of competitive pokemon as an entirety. what could a mere bw player do to match that? we'll have to wait and see, but truth be told: both me and the majority of the community are predicting this to be a one sided massacre

SM NU: FLCL 55-45 Rodriblutar - it seems like bro blutar el guapo hasn't vueltoo quite yet, considering that he's yet to reply to flcl's profile mensaje with a proposed time. i'm giving the edge to flcl here for reasons that i've gotten across in most of my other predictions, but i think that it'll be a lot closer than most would expect due to the fact that this spanish wonder literally uses his head to run calcs while he plays on his phone. if there's anything that'd be a match for a mainer, it would surely be a supercomputer

SM NU: Lax 75-25 Hootie - instead of the special defense stat it'll be Hootie that Lax is dropping this phase oml

SM NU: Lax 50.97531-49.02469 Rodriblutar - in mi opinion, this combate depende on how the two of them utilization their broken moons. todavia, lax got more experiencia in sm nu. muy close game tho xD
 
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#28
phase 2 usage stats

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+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Whimsicott         |   14 |  46.67% |  28.57% |
| 2    | Xatu               |   13 |  43.33% |  53.85% |
| 3    | Delphox            |   12 |  40.00% |  41.67% |
| 4    | Hitmonlee          |    9 |  30.00% |  55.56% |
| 5    | Slowbro            |    7 |  23.33% |  57.14% |
| 5    | Seismitoad         |    7 |  23.33% |  42.86% |
| 5    | Barbaracle         |    7 |  23.33% |  42.86% |
| 8    | Emboar             |    6 |  20.00% |  66.67% |
| 8    | Vanilluxe          |    6 |  20.00% |  50.00% |
| 8    | Sneasel            |    6 |  20.00% |  50.00% |
| 11   | Virizion           |    5 |  16.67% |  60.00% |
| 11   | Piloswine          |    5 |  16.67% |  40.00% |
| 13   | Audino             |    4 |  13.33% |  75.00% |
| 13   | Steelix            |    4 |  13.33% |  75.00% |
| 13   | Ferroseed          |    4 |  13.33% |  75.00% |
| 13   | Hariyama           |    4 |  13.33% |  50.00% |
| 17   | Houndoom           |    3 |  10.00% | 100.00% |
| 17   | Klinklang          |    3 |  10.00% |  66.67% |
| 17   | Spiritomb          |    3 |  10.00% |  33.33% |
| 17   | Garbodor           |    3 |  10.00% |  33.33% |
| 17   | Rhydon             |    3 |  10.00% |  33.33% |
| 17   | Vileplume          |    3 |  10.00% |  33.33% |
| 17   | Uxie               |    3 |  10.00% |  33.33% |
| 17   | Cryogonal          |    3 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 25   | Scyther            |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 25   | Type: Null         |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 25   | Incineroar         |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 25   | Vaporeon           |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 25   | Golbat             |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 25   | Miltank            |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 25   | Samurott           |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 25   | Druddigon          |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 25   | Braviary           |    2 |   6.67% |   0.00% |
| 34   | Medicham           |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 34   | Masquerain         |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 34   | Shuckle            |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 34   | Haunter            |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 34   | Absol              |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 34   | Vivillon-Ocean     |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 34   | Articuno           |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 34   | Scrafty            |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 34   | Gastrodon          |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 34   | Raichu-Alola       |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 34   | Ludicolo           |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 34   | Togedemaru         |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 34   | Pyukumuku          |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 34   | Aromatisse         |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 34   | Rotom              |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 34   | Rotom-Mow          |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 34   | Malamar            |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 34   | Toxicroak          |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 34   | Typhlosion         |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 34   | Froslass           |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 34   | Vikavolt           |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 34   | Raticate-Alola     |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 34   | Omastar            |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 34   | Sigilyph           |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 34   | Frogadier          |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
 

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#29
Phase 3 is up!
meeps vs. Eternally
meeps vs. Jayde
meeps vs. Rodriblutar
Kushalos vs. elodin
Kushalos vs. FLCL
Kushalos vs. Hootie
snaga vs. elodin
snaga vs. FLCL
snaga vs. soulgazer
Eternally vs. FLCL
Eternally vs. soulgazer
elodin vs. Hootie
Jayde vs. soulgazer
Jayde vs. Rodriblutar
Hootie vs. Rodriblutar

Good luck everyone! Looking forward to some very interesting looking matches, lets get some thoughts on the meta, predicts, etc going.
 

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#31
meeps vs. Eternally - Eternally is on fiyaaaaaa
meeps vs. Jayde - Meeps is also on fiyaaaaa, just not as much fiyaaaaa as eternally
meeps vs. Rodriblutar - ^
Kushalos vs. elodin - elodin won 2/3 (i think), so he's good
Kushalos vs. FLCL - FLCL hit tilt last phase but should bounce back imo
Kushalos vs. Hootie - 50/50, but i think kush will somehow pull it off
snaga vs. elodin - snaga is just... so good
snaga vs. FLCL - ^
snaga vs. soulgazer - ^^
Eternally vs. FLCL - Eternally is just amazing
Eternally vs. soulgazer - Eternally is just amazing
elodin vs. Hootie - 50/50, i coinflipped it tbh
Jayde vs. soulgazer - SG should probably win this, but the rule of coinflip doesn't lie
Jayde vs. Rodriblutar - Rodri is good at pokemon
Hootie vs. Rodriblutar - Rodri not as good as Hootie at pokemon, I suppose ?_?
 
#32
meeps vs. Eternally agree with Teddeh, Eternally is unstopable atm
meeps vs. Jayde
meeps vs. Rodriblutar
Kushalos vs. elodin
Kushalos vs. FLCL
Kushalos vs. Hootie
snaga
vs. elodin
snaga vs. FLCL
snaga
vs. soulgazer
Eternally vs. FLCL This should be an awesome game to spectate.
Eternally vs. soulgazer
elodin vs. Hootie
Jayde vs. soulgazer
Jayde vs. Rodriblutar
Hootie
vs. Rodriblutar

writing more stuff when I get bored again

(sad to see the old man subbed out :( )
 
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#35
meeps vs. Eternally 51-49 - both of these players have shown consistency but you can never really doubt meeps.. This is probably the best game this phase tbh interested to see the cool teams these guys bring out
meeps vs. Jayde 55-45 - Jayde’s been bringing some standard balance for every game so far so meeps definitely has the edge teambuilding wise cuz we all know he likes to bring crazy shit that works p effectively
meeps vs. Rodriblutar 60-40 - there’s only this big of a gap because of rodri’s activity. we saw last phase that he ended up reusing a team that didn’t work in phase 1 so it really depends on how much time he devotes to it, meeps in general has the upper hand tho
Kushalos vs. elodin 55-45 - nobody had faith in elodin but he 2-1’d in a pretty easy fashion. he brought some effective techs on his teams so his builder clearly knows what they’re doing (except for 4 wish 5 tect stall ) but Kush has been on a roll lately only losing to the broken as fr*ick mon barbaracle which was due to a choke. still think kush has superior building and makes rly whack but efficient plays
Kushalos vs. FLCL 45-55 - flcl had rough sets last phase due to hax and bad mu but he’s probably the best sm nu player rn so i expect him to beat kush in a close game
Kushalos vs. Hootie 55-45 - will be a close game but Kush has shown more consistency. both run pretty interesting team builds so this will be a fun game
snaga vs. elodin 60-40 - snaga makes nutty plays and fire teams so as long as he doesn’t choke like he’s shown to in nu open this’ll be p one sided i think
snaga vs. FLCL 49-51 - this will be a lot closer than most people will expect it to be but like mentioned earlier, snaga has those 2 important attributes covered well. he can’t afford to misplay vs flcl though which is the huge deal breaker
snaga vs. soulgazer HE’S BACK
Eternally vs. FLCL 51-49 - eternally is HEAT and with a little help from his special helper he’ll win.. jk but i feel like he’ll prep a lot better to get the advantage and it’ll be a great game
Eternally vs. soulgazer HE’S BACK 2.0
elodin vs. Hootie 49-51 - Hootie’s been picking up the slack from p1 and his metagame knowledge and building is slight superior so he has a small edge in this
Jayde vs. soulgazer HE’S BACK 12.0
Jayde vs. Rodriblutar 50-50 - both have shown similar consistency but rodri’s deviations from the standard balance teams may give him an edge
Hootie vs. Rodriblutar 45-55 - this will also depend on his activity but giving him the edge cuz he’s been more consistent and has kiyo to help with prep for this

great mu’s in phase 3, rooting for sg’s dominant return and meeper to do well again :@
 
#36
I'm a long time soulgazer fan. Excited to see what he brings to the table and how well he's shifted into the current meta. Hoping you bring to life the SM equivalent of ORAS Grumpig soulgeezer

proud of brother hootie for pulling back to Hooti3-3. 5-4/6-3 or bust dude

Also my three fave matchups this phase are
meeps vs. Eternally
Jayde vs. soulgazer
Hootie vs. Rodriblutar

rodri and jayde are cool. would love to see them stick around in nu tours past snake.
 
#37
phase 3 usage stats

SM NU

Code:
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Xatu               |   16 |  53.33% |  62.50% |
| 2    | Delphox            |   10 |  33.33% |  60.00% |
| 2    | Whimsicott         |   10 |  33.33% |  50.00% |
| 2    | Steelix            |   10 |  33.33% |  40.00% |
| 2    | Garbodor           |   10 |  33.33% |  40.00% |
| 6    | Seismitoad         |    9 |  30.00% |  66.67% |
| 6    | Slowbro            |    9 |  30.00% |  22.22% |
| 8    | Hitmonlee          |    8 |  26.67% |  37.50% |
| 9    | Emboar             |    6 |  20.00% |  50.00% |
| 9    | Guzzlord           |    6 |  20.00% |  33.33% |
| 11   | Druddigon          |    5 |  16.67% |  60.00% |
| 12   | Houndoom           |    4 |  13.33% |  75.00% |
| 12   | Vanilluxe          |    4 |  13.33% |  50.00% |
| 12   | Rotom              |    4 |  13.33% |  25.00% |
| 15   | Froslass           |    3 |  10.00% |  66.67% |
| 15   | Malamar            |    3 |  10.00% |  66.67% |
| 15   | Sneasel            |    3 |  10.00% |  66.67% |
| 15   | Sceptile           |    3 |  10.00% |  33.33% |
| 15   | Hariyama           |    3 |  10.00% |  33.33% |
| 15   | Type: Null         |    3 |  10.00% |   0.00% |
| 21   | Braviary           |    2 |   6.67% | 100.00% |
| 21   | Ditto              |    2 |   6.67% | 100.00% |
| 21   | Rotom-Mow          |    2 |   6.67% | 100.00% |
| 21   | Magmortar          |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 21   | Raticate-Alola     |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 21   | Vikavolt           |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 21   | Dodrio             |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 21   | Cryogonal          |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 21   | Vaporeon           |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 21   | Klinklang          |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 21   | Skuntank           |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 21   | Toxicroak          |    2 |   6.67% |  50.00% |
| 21   | Ferroseed          |    2 |   6.67% |   0.00% |
| 21   | Slowking           |    2 |   6.67% |   0.00% |
| 35   | Golbat             |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 35   | Audino             |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 35   | Omastar            |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 35   | Virizion           |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 35   | Charizard          |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 35   | Jynx               |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 35   | Qwilfish           |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 35   | Scyther            |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 35   | Togedemaru         |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 35   | Sigilyph           |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 35   | Vivillon-Sandstorm |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 35   | Mesprit            |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 35   | Probopass          |    1 |   3.33% | 100.00% |
| 35   | Samurott           |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 35   | Vivillon-Savanna   |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 35   | Mismagius          |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 35   | Absol              |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 35   | Liepard            |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 35   | Rhydon             |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 35   | Uxie               |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 35   | Crabominable       |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 35   | Exeggutor-Alola    |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
| 35   | Piloswine          |    1 |   3.33% |   0.00% |
s/o lax and i for using one team three times combined
 
#38
Semifinals are up!
The SM NU matches are:

#1 Pacifidlog Pitvipers vs. #4 Goldenrod Gliders
SM NU: meeps vs elodin

#2 Berry Forest Bushmasters vs. #3 Shinto Ruin Serpents
SM NU: qsns vs soulgazer

Share your predicts and thoughts on the matchups! qsns is making his NU debut in SSD which is something I’m looking forward to, since he’s a very potent player who hasn’t had the opportunity to play in NU so far, so I’m rooting for him to win! Also rooting for meeps and excited to see these games.
 
#39
SM NU: meeps vs elodin This game is going to be a wild one. Both are known for using some unorthodox builds throughout the tour (I'm pretty sure these two are the only players to bring ditto thus far). I would say playing wise they're even and they're also relatively even in how unpredictable there builds are going to be (besides elodin bringing a broken flying type) so this is honestly a tough matchup to predict. I just bolded elodin because he beat me


I'm excited for qsns's debut in nu, I can't wait to watch that game (Wednesday 8pm -4)

It's a shame I couldn't have had my rematch vs soulgazer since our last game was pretty discredited due to an unhappy klinklang. Maybe some other time..



why aren't people posting predictions?!?!
 
#40
SM NU: meeps (52) vs (48) elodin - [14:56:52] %neo&mon: if meeps loses this, I'll be very dissapointed. as snaga said both brought some unusual stuff in the past, which makes this matchup particulary exciting. idk if elodin makes his own teams tho. predicting meeps because hes the best at everything,,

SM NU: qsns (45) vs (55) soulgazer - very interesting matchup, looking forward to it. Both strike me as good players so I give both of them a good shot, but i think sg will come out on top. no real reason
 

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SM NU: meeps (65) vs. (35) elodin - meeps has put up the best NU record, even if kinda shaky in terms of some games, and elodin has had success, but lacks the grasp on the tier that meeps has and will manipulate to give him an advantage from the start. also i swear to god for every unset i see i will kill someone lmao

SM NU: qsns (30) vs. (70) Soulgazer - SG also a lower tier king, shouldn't be too challenging for him here considering qsns isn't a mainstay in the tier and SG will make sure to check his pokemon's happiness beforehand