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Smogon University PO Statistics — October 2011

Discussion in 'BW Competitive Discussion' started by Antar, Nov 2, 2011.

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  1. Xephyr

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    Which I why I've been Roost/Toxic/Dragon Claw/Dragon Dance for a little while. Unless it gets poisoned, it never really dies.
  2. Thundur

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    I think the rain mixed attacker set is really a great set. With hurricane, aqua tail, e speed, and roost with leftovers. Hit anything hard with hurricane or aqua tail and finish off the next turn with e speed. Great set.
  3. Mishra

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    And then proceeds to get walled/scared by a lot more? Why would you give up substitue/coverage move? Without sub, status moves become a lot scarier and without a coverage move, a lot more things wall you (and those things probably can status/set up on you ala Skarmory, Ferrathorn, Scizor, almost anything with a steel typing).
  4. Alice

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    So far Haxorus is the most profitable sweeper...

    ...seconded by Kyurem...

    and everyone were bashing 'em back then, lol
  5. Boooyah21

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    Hmm...I thought Gastro's usage would go down to the thundurus banning. I guess it's fate is to stay in OU.
  6. Thundur

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    Some of this usage is from when they were not banned therefore it effects the places of pokemon.
  7. Xephyr

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    Dragonite sets up on their asses and they can't do anything back. +6 Dragon Claw will beat them all.
  8. Thundur

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    Ferrothorn could cripple dragonite, scizor could inflict prior damage with BP and skarmory can whirlwind.

    Scizor and Ferrothorn are both handeled by fire punch, but skarmory still wont take that much damage from a +1 fire punch.
  9. Prankster

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    A moment of silence for the greatest pokemon ever
    | 51 | Sableye | 12763 | 3.309% | 0.27±0.57 | 6.40±5.44 |
    Sableye, dont stop till you reach the top <3

    Also, Scizorwash is still the metagames dominating offensive combo with nearly no safe switches.
  10. alexwolf

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    Come on guys Volcarona is number 25?
    Use this thing more,it is easily the best sweeper in OU,with the right support!
  11. New World Order

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    GL getting to +6 with Skarm phazing you out, Ferro Leech Seeding you, and Scizor taking you out with Bullet Punch
  12. skitz0phrenic

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    Yea really. Dragonite gets raped by those 3 with just Dragon Claw.
  13. Unbreakable

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    Sableye trolls everyone with Prankster in much the same way Whimsicott does, but with superior defensive typing. That's why you're seeing it.
  14. waffles101

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    Dragonite at #1. FUCK YES!
  15. The Diverman

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    Where would the OU/UU cut off be? Just curious and can never remember the formula to figure it out.

    Also, I find the clear skies usage stats hilariously ironic.
  16. Antar

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    Again, tiers don't get updated for another two months, but to answer your question, the definition of OU is that, if you play 20 battles a day, there's at least a 50% chance that you'll see it in a given day. That works out to be approximately 3.41%.

    lol, I just looked at it myself, and yeah. It's all the best weather abusers who've been banned from OU. But you know what this might be? People who don't know about tiers putting these pokemon on their teams and being forced to play Clear Skies.
  17. CommandurrClowncrete

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    Unlike Whimsicott, Sableye also trolls HO teams(most of them are physically based), unless the team has some lum-berry weilding pokemon. And with the loss of life-orb in favour of lum berry, HO pokes lose quite a lot of power.
  18. typon77

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    So basically if the tiers were being updated this month (which I know theyre not), everything Jolteon and above is OU (including Jolteon), and everything Donphan and below is UU (Including Donphan).
  19. Antar

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    Not quite, since tiers are based on a weighting of THREE months (so it would be 20*Oct+3*Sept+1*Aug)
  20. Thundur

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    He said IF THEY WERE updated this month.
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    | 435 | Ducklett | 7 | 0.002% | 1.71±2.12 | 4.71±2.25 |

    No.
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    Which means it ranges from -.41 to 3.83. However, I feel it rests around 0.0, MAYBE 0.1
  23. Antar

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    And I said that we'd need to throw in some data from September and August (the two months previous to this one) if that were the case.

    But if the stats were to remain constant over the next two months, then yes, the OU cutoff would be where he said.
  24. MaestroXXVI

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    Your wish is my command:

    Weighted Stats: [(Oct*20+Sept*3+Aug)/24]

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     1  Scizor          23.82%
     2  Dragonite       23.22%
     3  Rotom-W         21.60%
     4  Ferrothorn      20.38%
     5  Politoed        20.04%
     6  Tyranitar       19.98%
     7  Heatran         18.62%
     8  Gliscor         16.17%
     9  Jirachi         14.46%
    10  Latios          12.65%
    11  Skarmory        12.00%
    12  Deoxys-S        11.33%
    13  Terrakion       9.55%
    14  Haxorus         9.11%
    15  Ninetales       9.10%
    16  Starmie         9.10%
    17  Landorus        9.09%
    18  Gengar          8.98%
    19  Tentacruel      8.85%
    20  Reuniclus       8.78%
    21  Celebi          8.68%
    22  Gyarados        8.55%
    23  Forretress      8.30%
    24  Conkeldurr      7.99%
    25  Volcarona       7.67%
    26  Infernape       7.51%
    27  Jellicent       7.17%
    28  Lucario         7.12%
    29  Gastrodon       6.82%
    30  Magnezone       6.50%
    31  Salamence       6.25%
    32  Espeon          5.94%
    33  Blissey         5.77%
    34  Breloom         5.59%
    35  Latias          5.38%
    36  Vaporeon        5.29%
    37  Hydreigon       5.14%
    38  Toxicroak       4.81%
    39  Scrafty         4.63%
    40  Bronzong        4.57%
    41  Venusaur        4.53%
    42  Tornadus        4.52%
    43  Dugtrio         4.28%
    44  Metagross       4.18%
    45  Virizion        4.15%
    46  Cloyster        4.06%
    47  Mienshao        3.98%
    48  Chansey         3.97%
    [U]49  Jolteon         3.67%[/U]
    50  Donphan         3.34%
    51  Swampert        3.31%
    52  Mamoswine       3.20%
    53  Quagsire        3.13%
    54  Chandelure      3.09%
    55  Alakazam        2.88%
    56  Sableye         2.77%
    57  Mew             2.77%
    58  Darmanitan      2.68%
    59  Porygon2        2.61%
    60  Zapdos          2.56%
    61  Machamp         2.52%
    62  Slowbro         2.44%
    63  Hippowdon       2.43%
    64  Kingdra         2.29%
    65  Whimsicott      2.28%
    66  Abomasnow       2.25%
    67  Gorebyss        2.09%
    68  Roserade        2.04%
    69  Victini         2.00%
    Turns out the cutoff actually would be between Jolteon and Donphan...

    Hmmm...the stats i used for August might be off (I'm not sure if the stats i have are for 'Maestro's Method' or not) but they wouldnt change anything in terms of theoretical tier changes...Donphan would need to be around 5% usage in August to be OU now, and no metric has him anywhere near there.
  25. rh2012

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    I'm a little concerned that i havent seen ONE rain team themed around a politoed named Rain Dance Maggie. There was even a Red Hot Chilli Peppers team, with a politoed, NOT named Rain Dance Maggie. Upsetting..
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