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Discussion in 'Smogon Metagames' started by Antar, Nov 3, 2015.
Updated PS btw
Bouffalant will run Substitute + Swords Dance in PU imo, so it would be a colossal threat to the tier.
Saying from the past.
Ooo my bad
Jac youre dumb
ily H&MBerkeley ty for being my rock when darkness claims me
in other news lets spam sand with plant and sword so birdspam is slightly less effective
it might work?!
Haxorus has below 4 precent in uu, it should drop too, isn't it?
It needs less than 3.4% to drop.
Oh i got confused between 4.1% to 3.41%, thanks anyway
So Zapdos dropped to UU just as Mega Pinsir returns to OU....
Use it while you still can, UU!
Is Sylveon the new Hitmonchan??
Are Smogon ruining the metagame??
oh nice medi n pinsir not mega in ou ahah
Other Electric-types and TankChomps are better checks to birdspam than Zapdos is.
Plus, Zapdos is a defogger that's weak to Stealth Rock, which is shitty.
Sylveon isn't the new hitmonchan. It's still usable in ou
| 55 | Politoed | 3.066% |
Well it's an improvement I suppose. SPAM THIS THING! PLEASE! Rain is fantastic in OU!
The issue with Sylveon
is that it is only viable on fairyspam
and it is still OU... why?
edit: Rename NU to Fight Club now Granbull is no longer there to counter fighting-types y/n?
Tankchomp dies to it while only making it take RS+RH damage if it switches into it as it SD's
+2 252 Atk Aerilate Mega Pinsir Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Garchomp: 369-435 (87.8 - 103.5%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
Lando-T is a better check to it as it at least makes it more manageable with intimidate. Other electrics can check it but can rarely switch directly into it less they risk getting shot by CC or EQ. I mean aside from a healthy Rotom-W no electric can really switch even safely into Mega Pinsir. Zapdos resists whatever Mega Pinsir tries to throw at and can t-bolt it and roost off the damage. Defog is lackluster on Zapdos I agree but Zapdos is still one of the best answers there is to Mega Pinsir so it is at least not gonna drop immensely in usage and if Mega Pinsir jumps in popularity it will definitely make Zapdos more popular again.
I think PU-to-FU is the new NU-to-PU relationship, because it just took 14 mons from FU and didn't give any back
Ou let sylveon drop so florges could one day drop to ru
| 55 | Politoed | 3.066% |
My opinion, LET IT RAIN!!!
Since before Zapdos's drop, our best UU Defog users were Crobat, Salamence and Mandibuzz, I disagree with you
I disagree with both of you. Empoleon is not weak to any hazards really and has defog. Empoleon us is our best defogger. Zapdos supplies us with an offensive defogger that can hit water types really hard. Just because its weak to rocks does not make it shitty in the slightest. Other options include agility sweeper, specs, scarf, and bulky toxic. Zapdos will suite us fine for now although having other drops like sylveon conkeldurr and celebi would have been awesome.
Houndour should be banned from LC UU. We had banned it the last time it dropped but for some reason the ladder was never updated to reflect it.
Also, Exeggutor is in PU which sounds really fun. It has to work around Pawniard but that shouldn't be too hard. ;)
Pinsir's back in OU baby!
RU's got a couple of returning pokes as well. Zapdos is also an amazing addition in a bulky water tier called UU with the ability to pull off offensive and defensive sets.
PU got the best of this shift this round as it gained a lot of mons and lost none. Exeggutor seems the best of the bunch by looking at its sky-high SpA, movepool, and Chlorophyll ability.
Houndour isn't on the drop list any more, is it?