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Announcement Smogon Usage-Based Tier Update: November 2015

Discussion in 'Smogon Metagames' started by Antar, Nov 3, 2015.

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    Appears not. My mistake. Guess I had an old tab up.
  2. Dundies

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    love pu drops
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  3. AD impish john

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    Zapdos moved from OU to UU

    Now we just need Sylveon and Conk to UU!
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  4. Corie

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    Reg Pinsir pribably rarely ever get used get used in ou tier
  5. Vivmeister10

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    Hmm, so this means regular Pinsir and Medicham are OU now? Or just the megas? I know Mega Pinsir was BL I just can't remember Mega Medicham's usage.
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    Pinsir-Mega and Medicham-Mega had more than 3,41% in OU Usages this month, so they moved from BL to OU.

    Then, normal mons must be in the same tier than their Mega if the Mega is not in a Borderline or in Ubers. So Medicham and Pinsir moved to OU.
  7. Vivmeister10

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    Understood, thank you for the clarification.
  8. SotheBlacKnight

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    Granbul in RU, WHAT? WHY? I mean it was okay at best in NU, but still WHY?


    And if some of the guys in charge hate calling PU, well PU, then why not change what is now NU to something like BU (Barely Used) and call what is PU -> NU.
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  9. Ping_Pong_Along

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    Granbull's great in RU for checking the stupid amount of Fighting types we have, especially Virizion and Scrafty. It's also the only Fairy we have that actually hits hard. It pairs well with the extremely common Mega Steelix + Alomomola core, keeping them from being worn down with status, staying healthy with Wishes, and the combo checks Granbull's common switch ins. A lot of people are moving away from Aromatisse too because it loses momentum and only has room for one attack, making it pretty easy to wall and extremely predictable.
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  10. Pyritie

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    From the "PU is official now" thread linked in the OP:

  11. Martin

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    OK. So we got Zapdos to drop. Time for some more letters over-using the word outclassed!
    Letters (open)
    Dear OU,
    Please stop using Sylveon. It is only good on one sub-archetype, and beyond that it is just outclassed by Mega Gardevoir, Mega Altaria and Clefable. Also, please stop using Conkeldurr. It suffers from its bad speed tier and OU becoming Fairy-type: the tier is not good for it. Thank you.

    Dear UU,
    Please stop using Vaporeon and Milotic. They are outclassed by basically every other Water-type in the tier. Thank you.

    Dear RU,
    Please stop using Ambipom and Cinccino. They are both completely outclassed as physical attackers and revenge killers by other Pokemon. Also, stop using Typhlosion. It is outclassed as an offensive Fire-type by both Delphox and Houndoom. Also, stop using Trevenant. It is outclassed by other Grass- or Ghost-types in its roles. Thank you.

    Dear NU,
    Please stop using Muk. It is a shitmon. Also, please stop using Cryogonal. PU needs more Pokemon. Also, stop using Primeape. PU needs more Pokemon. Thank you.

    Dear PU,
    The quality of your ladder is beyond repair. Too many scrubs using shitmons. I'm sorry for your loss.
  12. omastar

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    Yeah i dont think you know what youre talking about, fast lo sf conk is really anti meta right now and works very well in destroying the common ferro/hippo/clef cores and generally punhing holes in almost all non sableye balance builds, its not outclased at all lol
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  13. Swinehart Guy

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    Since low level scrubs overused this lazy excuse of a dragon type.
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  14. Martin

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    IK S-Force Conk is anti meta. However, it doesn't justify why a C+/B- is still OU by usage .-.

    I love using low ranked 'mons (unrankeds are bae), but that doesn't give it an excuse.

    Anyway it was mainly a joke post taking a jab at low ladder anyway don't take it overly seriously :]
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    Obligatory post congratulating landshark dragon on being #1 in OU
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    Jesus stupid mobile. How tf did i get to delete my post?
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    In other news, water is wet.
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    I don't get all of this Slyveon hate. It's not fantastic, but it's not terribad either like Claydol and Hitmontop were in RU. I honestly don't see why it has to drop so bad.
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  19. Mega-Pokebattlerz

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    My thoughts:
    Granbull: Poor NU.
    Dragalge: Why is nobody using this? It wrecks face in UU!
    Exeggutor, Gorebyss, Bouffalant: Yay, PU got some good shit for once!
    Gothitelle: lol
    Slowking: Meh, I don't care about this thing.
    Abomasnow: OK then..........fuck.
    Pawniard: OH SHIT!
    Zapdos: Happy, Ununhexium?
    Pinsir: Oh, god dammit.
    Medicham: Oh man, RU is gonna be pissed...

    Also, just noticed this:
    | 36 | Ambipom | 7.338% |
    | 45 | Typhlosion | 5.643% |
    | 48 | Cinccino | 5.488% |
    | 52 | Trevenant | 4.502% |

    WHAT THE FUCK! STAHP! RU MAD.png
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  20. Take Azelfie

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    Welcome to NU, the metagame where whoever clicks Close Combat and Drain Punch the most wins.
  21. Firebird101

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    This thread heavily favors the viability rankings to a fault ^_^ Sylveon is such a mon that's more or less outclassed by Mega Gardevoir and Clefable and is considered one of the lesser OU mons as the result. It's certainly not a bad mon and works if you need role compress the roles of Mega Garde and Clef but either one of them are generally the better choice. I'd like to see Sylveon drop but mostly cause I wanna see how strong it would be in UU.
  22. thesecondbest

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    It isn't clefable and shouldn't try to be. It is a non mega mega gardevoir. Just like how raikou and mega mane are (talking about specs kou not that av garbage). It blasts many sableye stall teams and will be a force to be reckoned with in UU. Basically, bring your mega aggrons and other steels. Now florges will drop to ru, then maybe granbull will return to nu and sawk won't be on every team.
  23. Joe Career

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    Are you kidding? Dragalge is good but Mega Abomasnow isn't? It's probably one of the best megas in UU right now.
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    Florges wouldn't be in direct competition with Granbull, and Granbull was always one of the lesser used Sawk checks anyway, so it's not like they're going to miss it that much. Garbodor, Weezing, Pelipper, Vileplume etc still exist.
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    Ambipom's usage actually went UP from last month.

    I feel like going to RU spectator mode and just shouting, "STOP USING AMBIPOM" over and over.
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